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Libertarian4life
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Marriage is a sacred bond between two people, their lawyers, the county clerk, and the IRS.


Is the church completely out of the loop now?

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Is the church completely out of the loop now?



Not quite yet, but the continuation of the left's 'War on Christians' will see to it soon enough.





"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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Buck...thanks for Scalia's text!

The crime here (altho there are many).....is that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT took away the STATES rights!!
Now the states that voted 'no', according to their state residents....were trashed.... .disregarded.
they over stretched their authority.

this should be very very scary for all americans!!!


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Is the church completely out of the loop now?



As long as people keep on looking at 9 people an black robes to define their beliefs.  


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Dont forget that special bond that  the " legally married " have with the social security administration .  Survivor benefits are only paid after your legally MARRIED for 10 years.


Yes, Government Matrimony makes you eligible for government entitlements, Holy Matrimony does not.  The Church needs to offer survivor benefits(money) to compete for business.


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Clarence Thomas invokes comparison to slavery in raging gay-marriage dissent
Brett LoGiurato
Jun. 26, 2015, 11:57 AM
     

Justice Clarence Thomas on Friday wrote a fiery dissent in response to the Supreme Court's 5-4 decision that gay couples have a constitutional right to marry.

In it, he took issue with the concepts of "liberty" and "dignity." He argued that the petitioners in this case were not deprived of their liberty, as they have been allowed to travel and settle freely without government intervention.

This is why, Thomas wrote, the majority led by Justice Anthony Kennedy focused its opinion on the petitioners' "dignity."

But Thomas wrote that there is no "dignity" clause in the US Constitution — and that, even if there was, the government could not bestow it upon a person or take it away.

To make his point, he invoked the examples of slavery and internment camps. From his dissent:

The corollary of that principle is that human dignity cannot be taken away by the government. Slaves did not lose their dignity (any more than they lost their humanity) because the government allowed them to be enslaved. Those held in internment camps did not lose their dignity because the government confined them. And those denied governmental benefits certainly do not lose their dignity because the government denies them those benefits. The government cannot bestow dignity, and it cannot take it away.
Thomas went on to write that one's liberty and dignity should be shielded from the government — not provided by it.

"Today’s decision casts that truth aside. In its haste to reach a desired result, the majority misapplies a clause focused on 'due process' to afford substantive rights, disregards the most plausible understanding of the 'liberty' protected by that clause, and distorts the principles on which this Nation was founded. Its decision will have inestimable consequences for our Constitution and our society," Thomas wrote in conclusion.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/clarence-thomas-dissent-gay-marriage-case-2015-6#ixzz3eTbrWKbD


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When George W. proposed a constitutional amendment to protect marriage, I thought he was being ridiculous and also overstepping his authority, as marriage was not a federal issue.
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When George W. proposed a constitutional amendment to protect marriage, I thought he was being ridiculous and also overstepping his authority, as marriage was not a federal issue.


agree....but we have a bunch of dumbed down, whining babies in this country that can't think for themselves or make a half a$$ed decision.
they look to Gov Almighty for their every whim!!!
and we have a government that will beckon to their every whim!!!

We talked to folks this weekend that heard about Greece and their financial woes.
they ACTUALLY SAID....'boy, we're glad that our dollar is backed by GOLD'!!!!!

I was speechless!!!

WHAT-A-BUNCH-OF-IDIOTS!!!!

HENCE....they got the government they deserve!


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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Buck...thanks for Scalia's text!

The crime here (altho there are many).....is that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT took away the STATES rights!!
Now the states that voted 'no', according to their state residents....were trashed.... .disregarded.
they over stretched their authority.

this should be very very scary for all americans!!!


Wait, isn't this how the Civil War started?

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Dont forget that special bond that  the " legally married " have with the social security administration .  Survivor benefits are only paid after your legally MARRIED for 10 years.


Speaking of Social Security:


Gay couples are about to get a huge Social Security bonus

By Dan Taylor, National Monitor | June 27, 2015

Gay couples are about to get a huge Social Security bonus

The historic Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex marriage on Friday could result in massive financial benefits for couples.

The landmark Supreme Court ruling on Friday that legalized gay marriage across the United States will immediately have some big financial benefits for homosexual couples, particularly when it comes to claiming Social Security.

Heterosexual couples have long enjoyed being able to use Social Security claiming strategies to maximize their benefits, but now that the Supreme Court has made same-sex marriage a constitutional right, gay couples will be able to use those strategies that were previously not available to them, according to a USA Today report.

These financial benefits are nothing to sneeze at. USA Today quotes a report by the investment advisory firm Financial Engines in California that estimates the ruling could add anywhere between $20,000 to a whopping quarter of a million dollars to the lifetime benefits for same-sex couples.

That's because the unions are now officially the same as heterosexual marriages, and therefore there is no difference in the Social Security benefits. As a results, gay couples will not longer have to lose out on many thousands of dollars over their lifetimes.

Financial Engines used one scenario to demonstrate the difference, taking two men in their early 60s, one who has a salary of $80,000 and the other with a lower-paying job that was interrupted with a few years off. With the former dying at 84 and the latter at 90, the couple would receive Social Security benefits of $797,280 if they were considered single. But as a married couple, those benefits would increase to $938,112, a difference of $140,832 since the latter would be able to receive spousal and survivor benefits after the passing of the former due to his higher earnings history.

Experts advise same-sex couples to learn about their Social Security benefits now and start working toward optimizing overall benefits for the household. Help can be found on the Social Security Administration website, including a special page just for same-sex couples that is now available.


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Wait, isn't this how the Civil War started?



YUP....but government is prepared.

police are now militarized and there are FEMA camps EVERYWHERE!!

But not to worry.....there will be another 'created' false flag first!
that's the quickest way to redirect and control the masses.


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States and individuals no longer have rights to make decisions for themselves.

The government will protect everyone from themselves, comrades.
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Oregon Issues Gag Order for Bakers Who Refused to Make Gay Wedding Cake
12:36 AM, JUL 3, 2015 • BY MARK HEMINGWAY
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In April, an administrative judge with the Oregon Department of Labor ordered Aaron and Melissa Klein, the owners of the now shuttered bakery Sweet Cakes by Melissa, to pay a fine of $135,000 for refusing to bake a cake for a lesbian couple's wedding. While there's a case the couple violated the state's public accommodation laws, there's little doubt that the fine was excessive and the reasoning for it specious. (For more on the plight of Kleins, see THE WEEKLY STANDARD editorial, "Bake Me a Cake -- or Else.")

Despite losing their business and facing a hefty fine they can't afford, the Kleins continue to stand by their Christian convictions and fight the ruling. However, the state just finalized the ruling against the Kleins and added a new wrinkle. According to the state, the Kleins are now forbidden from talking about the ruling against them. Here's the relevant portion of the decision:
https://twitter.com/kelseyjharkness/status/616824321470791680/photo/1

https://www.weeklystandard.com.....ing-cake_983506.html


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