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Having her name on them was her issue AFTER being jailed and since being released...  (WRONG)

Sorry bub...You weren't following close enough.  She was held in contempt of court on September 3rd.  Her public statement for WHY she wouldn't issue certificates was release on September 1st.  Her attorneys asked that an accommodation be made by having the clerks name removed from the marriage license.....Yes, this was BEFORE she was jailed.

Can't believe you continue this charade...why aren't you irate about her deviance of separation of church and state
instead of trying to defend this idiot.

The "separation of church and state" is a cliché.  There is no such thing.  Now I agree the constitution restricts congress from establishing a state religion.  Kim Davis, the Kentucky county clerk,  isn't establishing a state religion by refusing to issue licenses with her name on them.


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September 1, 2015

Statement of Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis

LC.org

Late yesterday the U.S. Supreme Court declined to extend the temporary stay of a federal court order involving Rowan County Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis. The federal court previously ordered Kim Davis to issue marriage licenses to the plaintiffs who filed suit against her. Liberty Counsel represents Kim Davis and appealed that order to the Court of Appeals. The lower court order was temporarily stayed until August 31, and, while the appeal is still pending, the stay of the order is no longer in effect. In light of these developments, Kim Davis released the following statement:

I have worked in the Rowan County Clerk’s office for 27 years as a Deputy Clerk and was honored to be elected as the Clerk in November 2014, and took office in January 2015. I love my job and the people of Rowan County. I have never lived any place other than Rowan County. Some people have said I should resign, but I have done my job well. This year we are on track to generate a surplus for the county of 1.5 million dollars.

In addition to my desire to serve the people of Rowan County, I owe my life to Jesus Christ who loves me and gave His life for me. Following the death of my godly mother-in-law over four years ago, I went to church to fulfill her dying wish. There I heard a message of grace and forgiveness and surrendered my life to Jesus Christ. I am not perfect. No one is. But I am forgiven and I love my Lord and must be obedient to Him and to the Word of God.

I never imagined a day like this would come, where I would be asked to violate a central teaching of Scripture and of Jesus Himself regarding marriage. To issue a marriage license which conflicts with God’s definition of marriage, with my name affixed to the certificate, would violate my conscience. It is not a light issue for me. It is a Heaven or Hell decision. For me it is a decision of obedience. I have no animosity toward anyone and harbor no ill will. To me this has never been a gay or lesbian issue. It is about marriage and God’s Word. It is a matter of religious liberty, which is protected under the First Amendment, the Kentucky Constitution, and in the Kentucky Religious Freedom Restoration Act. Our history is filled with accommodations for people’s religious freedom and conscience. I want to continue to perform my duties, but I also am requesting what our Founders envisioned – that conscience and religious freedom would be protected. That is all I am asking. I never sought to be in this position, and I would much rather not have been placed in this position. I have received death threats from people who do not know me. I harbor nothing against them. I was elected by the people to serve as the County Clerk. I intend to continue to serve the people of Rowan County, but I cannot violate my conscience.


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Kim Davis, Kentucky Clerk, Held in Contempt and Ordered to Jail
September 3, 2015


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Nice try.....she was jailed on 3 SEP for contempt in refusing to follow court orders
that were directed to her prior to 1 SEP after appeals of SCOTUS opinion were upheld
and her request for extension was denied. All of this is meaningless, regardless.
Bottom line, she is an elected official with a responsibility to perform the duties of her office
without selective approach to those duties. If she cannot do that because of her
fake deep religious beliefs, then she needs to quit and find a job where she can
do things her way.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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A Baptist Pastor to Kim Davis:

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"We must stop looking to the government to make America a
Christian utopia. Our kingdom is not of this world.

We must abandon all thoughts of fixing others and let Jesus fix us.

If we want sanctity of marriage then stop cheating, stop having affairs, stop
looking at porn, stop getting divorces. That is the way for the church to stand
up for the biblical definition of marriage, not by someone martyring their
self-righteous self".

( Pastor Russell Williams of McCormick Road Baptist Church in Florida )
The full letter @:
https://www.facebook.com/russellvwilliams/posts/10206505364527602?fref=nf


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Kinda Sounds Like The OathKreepers


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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hhhhmmmmmm

how would this work?



...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.

Romans 1:26-28 - For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:  

Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination:

1 Corinthians 7:2 - Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

Mark 10:6-9 - But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.



So why doesn't everyone just call JESUS CHRIST.........a racist bigot??  

Everyone seems to have no problem calling their fellow man a racist bigot.....

why doesn't everyone do the same to JESUS CHRIST....... PUBLICLY....IN THE NEWS MEDIA.....SOCIAL NETWORKING.

after all.....JESUS CHRIST did preach against the act of homosexuality.....so JESUS CHRIST must be a racist bigot!!!

JESUS CHRIST did start this whole thing, after all.....right?



When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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So why doesn't everyone just call JESUS CHRIST.........a racist bigot??  

Everyone seems to have no problem calling their fellow man a racist bigot.....

why doesn't everyone do the same to JESUS CHRIST....... PUBLICLY....IN THE NEWS MEDIA.....SOCIAL NETWORKING.

after all.....JESUS CHRIST did preach against the act of homosexuality.....so JESUS CHRIST must be a racist bigot!!!

JESUS CHRIST did start this whole thing, after all.....right?



Um... Bumbler... You do know that Jesus Didn't say any of your quotes... Right?
You do know the difference between the new and old testament... Right???



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Apparently the rest of the world has no problem offering paid maternity leave.  Canada small businesses
manage with 28 paid weeks and 25 unpaid for maternity leave with out a major problem... so why is the
USA so far behind the rest of the world?

A hint:



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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oh Box...you silly silly silly Box


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Tide Spoofs Kim Davis


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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like we don't let fear of

islamic terrorists
russia
iran having nukes
iraq having nukes
vietnam taking over the world
not having enough troops so must institute draft
never finding food in America
etc etc etc.......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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oh yeah, because the government NEVER invokes fear to move the masses....hahahahahahaha...only religion does that


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Quoted from senders
oh yeah, because the government NEVER invokes fear to move the masses....hahahahahahaha...only religion does that


without the words....FEAR....WAR....TERRORISTS..............gov almighty would have no control of the masses.

but the brainless sheople fall for it every single time!!!

'they take the best of us....and turn us against each other'.....or should I say folks 'let' them turn one against the other.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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