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Box A Rox
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"Winning record" as in genocide of Native Americans?


Yes Cissy... Genocide and Slavery were all a part of US History.
Now as for today...
Racism, the kind represented in the Confederate Flag issue, is continuing today.

If you believe your country... OOPS! OUR COUNTRY is so bad,
why do you stay here.
You don't work to improve the system or even take part in the system...
So, what is your plan to fix the problems?
Or is your plan to continue to whine, cry and stomp your feet in rage?  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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If you believe your country... OOPS! OUR COUNTRY is so bad,
why do you stay here.
You don't work to improve the system or even take part in the system...
So, what is your plan to fix the problems?
Or is your plan to continue to whine, cry and stomp your feet in rage?  


No rage.  Just waiting for you to call for the removal of the U.S. Flag.  

I do take part in the system, I remind those of the historical reality of the U.S. government.  Scraping off the layer of American exceptionalism propaganda on most Americans brains is the first step.  Reminding people about the reality of the government they live under hopefully changes hearts and minds.  Once people see it for what it is, then it will change.  

You are a "love it or leave it" type.  I'm more of a "understand really what you love" about the U.S. Government type. If the confederate flag offends you, I guess you have reasons I can understand.  But if the 3 million killed in Vietnam, the hundreds of thousands killed in the Middle East, and being the home of the largest incarceration rate in the world doesn't offend you, I really can't understand that logic.


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Protect human life from 'conception to natural death???
Who decides what 'natural death' is? GOV ALMIGHTY?
Ask all the dead nuked Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, all the Syrians, Iraqi's, afghans blah blah blah.....hundreds upon hundreds of thousands...if they died a 'natural death'.
How protected were they?
Oh that's right.....GOV ALMIGHTY gets to choose!!
just keep on waving 'old glory'!!!
idiots.


We have absolutely no respect for innocent human life.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki Death Toll

The mortality was greater in Hiroshima because the city was located in a flat delta, in contrast to Nagaski’s Urakami Valley. The Nagasaki-Urakami is enclosed by mountain ridges that shielded the city. Nevertheless, the instant lethal effect revealed consideration of the use of these annhilative weapons in warfare can be tolerated by man now that nukes of far greater destructive power are now available.

The real mortality of the atomic bombs that were dropped on Japan will never be known. The destruction and overwhelming chaos made orderly counting impossible. It is not unlikely that the estimates of killed and wounded in Hiroshima (150,000) and Nagasaki (75,000) are over conservative.

At no time during the period between 1943 and 1946 were facilities allotted, or time provided, for the Medical Section of the Manhattan Engineer District to prepare a comprehensive history of its activities. Regulations forbade notetaking. Official records were scanty. There were few charts and photographs.

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No rage.  Just waiting for you to call for the removal of the U.S. Flag.  

I do take part in the system, I remind those of the historical reality of the U.S. government.  Scraping off the layer of American exceptionalism propaganda on most Americans brains is the first step.  Reminding people about the reality of the government they live under hopefully changes hearts and minds.  Once people see it for what it is, then it will change.  

You are a "love it or leave it" type.  I'm more of a "understand really what you love" about the U.S. Government type. If the confederate flag offends you, I guess you have reasons I can understand.  But if the 3 million killed in Vietnam, the hundreds of thousands killed in the Middle East, and being the home of the largest incarceration rate in the world doesn't offend you, I really can't understand that logic.


http://www.foxnews.com/opinion.....layed-on-campus.html

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Everyone with a half of working brain see this for what it really is.....CREATED DIVISION!!!

And how convenient.....during the iran nuke talks!!!

idiots.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Stand With The Klan and The Confederate Flag!

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On Saturday, the Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan and their supporters will gather at
the South Carolina Statehouse grounds in Columbia to rally in support of the Confederate flag,
which was recently removed. After being absent from major headlines for many years,
the white supremacist group has found its way back into the spotlight in the wake of the
June shooting that killed nine black Americans in a historic Charleston church.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Everyone with a half of working brain see this for what it really is.....CREATED DIVISION!!!

And how convenient.....during the iran nuke talks!!!

idiots.


I agree with you 100% --- furthermore, taking down the flag doesn't actually do anything to solve the underying problems political/social/economic that cause the problems.  The Reverend and State Senator, Clementa Pickney, was working hard to get a minimum wage bill past (S.C. has no minimum wage) and bills passed to improve schools in his state (S.C. has some of the worst performing schools in the country).  
The Governor and State Legislature would have better honored the Charleston Nine (which includes Pickney) by passing into law one or all of those bills that he was working so hard on -- and which of actually made a difference to the poor in South Carolina.
But then again -- we have loads of politicians right here in our own backyard that "talk" and "stir up" but have not done jack sh*t in the 10, 15, 20, 32 (Tonko) or 40 (Farley) years that they have been in public office.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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The largest newspaper in South Carolina’s capital city pointed out this week the “chilling”
similarities between lawmakers who defended the Confederate flag and members of the
Ku Klux Klan.

An editorial published in Wednesday’s edition of Columbia’s The State newspaper noted
that a North Carolina Ku Klux Klan group was planning to rally at the South Carolina
statehouse on Saturday in support of the Confederate flag, but many lawmakers in the
state had already been using rhetoric that was disturbingly similar.

“As The State’s Andrew Shain reported, members of a North Carolina Ku Klux Klan group
say they are ‘standing up for our Confederate history and all the Southerners
who fought and died against federal tyranny,'”


"Standing up for those who fought and died against federal tyranny"?
What???
Wait a minute???
The KKK???
This sounds exactly what Cicero has been espousing for years!!!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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"Standing up for those who fought and died against federal tyranny"?
What???
Wait a minute???
The KKK???
This sounds exactly what Cicero has been espousing for years!!!


Difference is, I'm not a member off the KKK, and my family immigrated to America AFTER the civil war and never owned slaves.  Nice try of painting guilt by association, but you know that's a fallacy.  Try again.


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Difference is, I'm not a member off the KKK, and my family immigrated to America AFTER
the civil war and never owned slaves.  Nice try of painting guilt by association, but you
know that's a fallacy.  Try again.


All irrelevant.
The first time I read:
"Standing up for those who fought and died against federal tyranny"?
pertaining to Civil War, was when you posted that view.


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