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Box A Rox
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Byrd was buried 5 years ago...But his RACIST legacy lives on.  This is your cue to start being offended.





Um... I am offended by Byrd's politics and racial views.  
So the problem is???

It appears W VA loves old racists.  They keep naming things after one of them.


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Um... I am offended by Byrd's politics and racial views.  
So the problem is???

It appears W VA loves old racists.  They keep naming things after one of them.


You don't want his name removed off of federal buildings or public roads?  You are not outraged that this racist's name is plastered all over "public lands"?  Don't you care about the African Americans that are offended every time they have to look at this Klansman's name?  

Hmm...it's really difficult to keep up what the left wants me to see as offensive and racist.


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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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You don't want his name removed off of federal buildings or public roads?  You are not outraged that this racist's name is plastered all over "public lands"?  Don't you care about the African Americans that are offended every time they have to look at this Klansman's name?  

Hmm...it's really difficult to keep up what the left wants me to see as offensive and racist.


Really Cicero?  You have a problem understanding Racism???
I would support a move to remove Byrd's name from public facilities.  



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Really Cicero?  You have a problem understanding Racism???
I would support a move to remove Byrd's name from public facilities.  


Your party never supported removing him from the party.  As a matter of fact, he was elevated him to senate majority leader.  And that was AFTER filibustering the Civil Rights Act.  Quite the reward The democrats gave Klansman Byrd.


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DVOR was doing so well, then he fell into his usual pattern on #4


I agree.

But my disagreement is solely based on the subject of respect, that he happened to bring up.

He fails to respect personal boundaries and the absolute right to decide your own future/dead end(s) through procreation/prevention of future existence through reproduction.

Governments have no absolute right to dictate reproduction, marriage or many other personal family matters and/or choices.

The only right they have is taken from us by the use of the force of law, that they are willing to inflict on anyone who disobeys them.

They have no actual real control over anyone.

People simply voluntarily surrender their freedom to life and liberty out of fear of monetary extortion, imprisonment or death.

Like those who joined and assisted the military to avoid being drafted by force.

Because the one's forced to go were most likely to die or be forced to soak the lands with the blood of perfect strangers who never did anything to them, except defend their own homes.

Military service should never be mandatory.

It is a complete taking of your rights to life and liberty, which was never theirs to take.

They simply declare it to be so, and the masses fall in line for various reasons, but ultimately by making a choice between agreeing to participate or assist those chosen to take chosen lives in the target area.

Again, absolutely no respect for innocent lives is even considered at all.

They routinely, and knowingly, kill more civilians than actual combatants in every war.

Total disregard for innocent lives.

Just keep teaching day after day, and year after year, that killing people and threatening them with death or violence is an acceptable action.

And then they blame American citizens, for using what they have been taught, that killing and violence is acceptable problem solving.

As for DVOR, a person should direct his energies towards defending the rights of "all" already living persons, by condemning all wars, drones, etc, before willfully taking the rights of others to deciding their own future.

Actual time of personhood is not provable and should not be used to take someone's rights to self determination.

If people respected all living persons, the abortion issue would disappear simply by the stronger moral code created by becoming respectful of all human beings.

Judging by their citizenship(place of birth), the flags they fly, the color of their skin or their religious beliefs are all racism, patriotism or religious fanaticism are all acts of disrespect for all human beings, who use these disrespectful tools to justify acts of death, violence or imprisonment.

Teach respect to the living and the unborn will have no worries.

Or just keep teaching that human rights and lives routinely hold no value, that they are necessary collateral damages.
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All that is in the gray use to belong to Mexico in 1821. After years of war it turned in to California ,Texas new Mexico and other states the other part that is in the white, was native Indian territory which was mixed in with the Mexican territory.

the these European guys came and declared everyone except themselves, to be savages and terrorists.

Today these same guys are using the same tactics on the entire world.

Did I mention they also established legal slavery in North America?

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Libertarian4life like all the other Pro-Abortionists  (Pelosi, Tonko, et al) sounds like the typical racist slaveowner (T. Jefferson, J. Calhoun, Nathan Bedford Forrest, et al) or segrationist:  

1st - He/she denies science and claims that the person that he/she wishes to oppress is not really a human.  There is absolutely no scientific proof that an unborn child in the womb is anything other than an unborn human person.  Yet - conveniently .. Pro-Abortionists will deny science and claim that it is not a human person.

2nd - He/she turns the person that he/she has stripped of humanity into nothing but a piece of property .. something that another human has the right to keep or throw away.  Echoes of Dred Scott ring through the Pro-Abortionists' arguments -- To Pro-Abortiionists, the slave is just a piece of property and, so is, the very much living but yet unborn baby in the womb.

3rd - He/she raises the false argument that the government shouldn't interfere in his/her choices over how to treat another person.   Pro-Abortionists like Segregationists and Pro-Slavery folks do not want the government to stop them from oppressing the person that they have dehumanized and claimed as their own property.

Pro-Abortionists are NOT friends of Liberty -- no matter how much they attempt to wrap themselves in the flag and Constitution.

Finally, I remind the ignorant Pro-Abortionists that Right to Life is not just about abortion and that it extends to ALL human persons from conception to natural death.  


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Your party never supported removing him from the party.  As a matter of fact, he was elevated him to senate majority leader.  And that was AFTER filibustering the Civil Rights Act.  Quite the reward The democrats gave Klansman Byrd.


Right. Byrd is an embarrassment, not just to the Democrats but to all Americans.  

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Robert Carlyle Byrd  was a United States Senator from West Virginia. A member of
the Democratic Party, Byrd served as a U.S. Representative from 1953 until 1959
and as a U.S. Senator from 1959 to 2010. He was the longest-serving U.S. Senator and,
at the time of his death, the longest-serving member in the history of the United States
Congress.


Apparently the Racists of West Virginia approved of his KKK membership and kept electing
him to continue in their behalf.  For some in the South, his KKK past was a reason to
vote for him, not against him.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Right. Byrd is an embarrassment, not just to the Democrats but to all Americans.  


Apparently the Racists of West Virginia approved of his KKK membership and kept electing
him to continue in their behalf.  For some in the South, his KKK past was a reason to
vote for him, not against him.


But the DNC put him in position of senate majority leader, not West Virginians.  Apparently the national party approved of the Klansman and his racist credentials.  


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But the DNC put him in position of senate majority leader, not West Virginians.  Apparently the national party approved of the Klansman and his racist credentials.  


Awful huh!  Is there more to this story???
Like the people of Mississippi electing not just a KKK Member but a Klan leader to their state
govt.  
You seem surprised that racism exists in the USA.


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Libertarian4life like all the other Pro-Abortionists  (Pelosi, Tonko, et al) sounds like the typical racist slaveowner (T. Jefferson, J. Calhoun, Nathan Bedford Forrest, et al) or segrationist:  



I am 100% pro-life, but I will not trample people's family rights and values to force my view on others.

You are a fake, one issue pro-lifer.

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Awful huh!  Is there more to this story???
Like the people of Mississippi electing not just a KKK Member but a Klan leader to their state
govt.  
You seem surprised that racism exists in the USA.


I'm just surprised you don't get outraged when it's your political party that is racist.  Democrat Congressman  Bobby Rush from Illinois is a former member of the black panthers.  You never hear the righteous indignation from lefties.  That's how you know the outrage is purely political. You know what they say about throwing stones when you live in a glass house.


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I'm just surprised you don't get outraged when it's your political party that is racist.  Democrat Congressman  Bobby Rush from Illinois is a former member of the black panthers.  You never hear the righteous indignation from lefties.  That's how you know the outrage is purely political. You know what they say about throwing stones when you live in a glass house.


Today's black panthers are a non issue IMO.  Vigilantes on any side... teabaggers, black panthers,
the weather underground, The SLA, Oathkreepers, etc etc etc.

They are all the same crazy if from the right or the left.  


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