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Anti govt haters would have you believe this is true, but of course we all know it's false.


That is correct.  Sorry, but I had to point out the grammar mistake and use of a double negative.  "Anti govt haters" = hate anti government.  So you are correct, people who hate "anti govt" love govt flags.


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CHARLESTON, S.C., July 6 (Reuters) - South Carolina lawmakers took a major
step on Monday toward passing legislation to remove the Confederate battle flag that
flies at the state capitol in Columbia and has long been denounced by critics as a symbol
of slavery.

The bill passed a crucial second reading by a 37-3 vote in the state Senate where it faces
one more vote on Tuesday before the bill is taken up by the lower House of Representatives.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Man Apologizes To Everyone He’s Offended
By Flying The Confederate Flag


Josh Clark grew up near Nashville, Tennessee. He’s a Southern boy who likes to “hunt, fish,
camp and do pretty much anything outdoors.” He used to love the Confederate flag. Used to.

Clark said he was never a racist. Like a lot of people, he thought the flag stood for “heritage
not hate” and “pride not prejudice.” He said he was raised around people of all races and
was never racist, but it wasn’t until he went to college that he realized that by wearing or
hanging the Confederate flag he was hurting people. and now he’s very sorry and wants
to let everyone who stands by the flag what it stands for.

From his Facebook Page:
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To those I may have offended in the past, who never confronted me,
I apologize. I was WRONG.
As our country continues to move forward on equality issues, I believe
the only place for the Confederate flag is in our history books.


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If the militant racist wing of the black panthers used the term "Honky" as their banner and they had lynched  
3500 White People... you might understand.  

Or not.


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If the militant racist wing of the black panthers used the term "Honky" as their banner and they had lynched  
3500 White People... you might understand.  

Or not.




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If the militant racist wing of the black panthers used the term "Honky" as their banner and they had lynched  
3500 White People... you might understand.  

Or not.


Oh...Or if Arabs that identified with the Muslim religion flew planes into a building killing 3000 people and used the term "infidel", then you agree the "ground zero mosque" and the Muslim flag star and moon is forever a symbol of hatred and intolerance?



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Oh...Or if Arabs that identified with the Muslim religion flew planes into a building killing 3000 people and used the term "infidel", then you agree the "ground zero mosque" and the Muslim flag star and moon is forever a symbol of hatred and intolerance?



Cicero's trolls used to be at least interesting...   Now it's just the same ole same ole.
At least be creative!
Yawn... time for a nap.


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Cicero's trolls used to be at least interesting...   Now it's just the same ole same ole.
At least be creative!
Yawn... time for a nap.


No answer?  You deem the Muslim symbol ok, even if Christians heads are being cut off under the symbol?  How do you go about determining which symbols are offensive and which are not.  As a collectivist, you must have a certain formula for offensive symbol identification.


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No answer?  You deem the Muslim symbol ok, even if Christians heads are being cut off under the symbol?  How do you go about determining which symbols are offensive and which are not.  As a collectivist, you must have a certain formula for offensive symbol identification.


So does Cissy consider all terrorists Muslims??? He didn't say yet he associates "Terrorists"
with "Muslims" and their flag.

I look at the Muslim religion just like I do most religions.  Some good people
some bad people, and most somewhere in between.  
I look at Christian Religions  just like I do most religions.  Some good people
some bad people, and most somewhere in between.  

Just as SOME Muslims are terrorists...
SOME Christians are KKK terrorists.
Their religion isn't a prerequisite for terrorism.

I wonder if Cissytroll is still waving that Muslim flag looking for an angry response?


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When General Robert E Lee was asked
by a woman on what she should do with
a Confederate flag after the end of the
American Civil War, he said quite simply:


"Fold it up and put it away."



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No answer?  You deem the Muslim symbol ok, even if Christians heads are being cut off under the symbol?  How do you go about determining which symbols are offensive and which are not.  As a collectivist, you must have a certain formula for offensive symbol identification.


See if this helps Cicero:
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A mayor of a small town in Alabama is outraged after someone noticed that the
Christian flag flapping in the wind right next to the American one at City Hall is blatantly
unconstitutional.

Glencoe Mayor Charles Gilchrist is now crying Christian persecution because the tyrannical
way residents are making him abide by the U.S. Constitutional requirement of separation
of church and state. No fair!

But Gilchrist is in a bind. His Christian conscience won’t allow him to take down the flag
without a fight, but this whole breaking the law thing will be massively expensive. As
conservative Christians are learning across the country, their attempts to shoehorn
religion into public life is so obviously against the law that in almost every case a lawsuit
is brought against them they lose. In a similar case to that of Glencoe, a town was forced
to pay over $500,000 after a court ruled that they couldn’t promote Christianity on state
property. Gilchrist has begun to freak out.



FoxSnooze
http://www.myfoxal.com/story/29473746/glencoes-mayor-confirms-christian-flag-removed-from-city-hall


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Iowa Republicans Resign After Flying Confederate Flag
During Independence Day Parade


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The Confederate flag is a symbol of hate, and it is no longer acceptable to fly. A couple
of Republicans in Iowa are now dealing with the consequences of flying the traitor flag. Two
members of the Marion County Republican Committee resigned after they decided to fly three
Confederate flags on a float during an Independence Day parade, just three weeks after nine
black people were murdered in an act of racialized violence in South Carolina.

The Des Moines Register Reports:

“Three Confederate flags flew from a truck pulling a Marion County Republicans’ parade float
in Independence Day parades in Pleasantville and Pella on Saturday, leading to harsh criticism
from the party’s state chairman and resignation of two Marion County central committee
members who owned the truck.”
Local people were upset that the flags were deemed appropriate to be flown in the parade.
Members of the party agreed that the statement Golay was trying to make had nothing to
do with honoring confederate ancestors.

Jeff Kaufmann, chairperson of the Republican Party of Iowa, told The Des Moines Register:

“He was making a political statement, a statement that was in opposition to what the GOP
and the party of Lincoln stands for. That, to me, doesn’t pass muster.”

The confederate flag is not just a symbol of hate; it is a symbol of the worst part of the United
States’ history. Who in their right mind would honor the veterans of the Confederacy?




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So does Cissy consider all terrorists Muslims??? He didn't say yet he associates "Terrorists"
with "Muslims" and their flag.


No, I asked if the Muslim symbols on flags represent terrorism and hate based on terrorist acts carried out under those symbol.  You seem to believe the confederate flag can ONLY represent racism and hate, and everybody that fly's it is a racist, inbred, redneck. I just want to understand when you are allowed to paint tens of millions of people with broad brushes of based on actions carried out by a few under those symbols. One 21 year old shoots up a church and is pictured on his Facebook page in front of a Confederate Flag, now everybody with a flag suddenly share in his beliefs. I just wonder how you differentiate between symbols when horrific acts carried out under that symbol, and determine it is a reflection of everybody that fly's that symbol.  



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