Actually, black powder was invented by the Chinese and used for fireworks, not muskets. Black Powder was invented in the 9th century in China, and the earliest record of a written formula appears in the 11th century Song dynasty text, Wujing Zongyao. This discovery led to the invention of fireworks and the earliest gunpowder weapons in China, (but not muskets)
Yeah... I specifically said "black powder MUSKET" not "black powder FIREWORKS".
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A musket is a muzzle-loaded, smoothbore firearm, fired from the shoulder. Muskets were designed for use by infantry. A soldier armed with a musket had the designation musketman or musketeer.
The musket replaced the arquebus, and was in turn replaced by the rifle (in both cases, after a long period of coexistence). The term "musket" is applied to a variety of weapons, including the long, heavy guns with matchlock, wheel lock or flint lock and loose powder fired with the gun barrel resting on a stand, and also lighter weapons with a snaphance, flintlock, or caplock and bullets using a stabilizing spin (Minié ball), affixed with a bayonet.
16th-century troops armed with a heavy version of the arquebus called a musket were specialists supporting the arquebusiers and pikemen formations. By the start of the 18th century, a lighter version of the musket had edged out the arquebus, and the addition of the bayonet edged out the pike, and almost all infantry became musketeers.
BAN MUSKETS!!! They were designed for the military!!!!
Yeah... I specifically said "black powder MUSKET" not "black powder FIREWORKS".
BAN MUSKETS!!! They were designed for the military!!!!
Some rifles were designed for deer... others for larger prey, others for target shooting... and assault rifles were designed to kill in war. It's really not that complicated Cicero... but of course, with you everything is complicated.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The point is, the constitution says "Arms" - it doesn't specify what arms, from musket to AK/ACR's ... so ANY of them should be legal, and are, according to the constitution
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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Well regulated - yep, armed services and licensing of individuals.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, pretty self explanatory.
We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works.
The point is, the constitution says "Arms" - it doesn't specify what arms, from musket to AK/ACR's ... so ANY of them should be legal, and are, according to the constitution
Well regulated - yep, armed services and licensing of individuals.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, pretty self explanatory.
Put the entire 2nd amendment as written Harry... A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
This clearly applies to "a well regulated militia", not individual gun rights. Read Very Conservative Justice Anton Scalia's view:
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"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. [United States v.] Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons."
If the 2nd applied to private citizens, then there could be no law restricting citizens from gun ownership.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Some rifles were designed for deer... others for larger prey, others for target shooting... and assault rifles were designed to kill in war. It's really not that complicated Cicero... but of course, with you everything is complicated.
Really...designed for deer or other larger prey? Then why do domestic police have these weapons of war?
Really...designed for deer or other larger prey? Then why do domestic police have these weapons of war?
You really should find out what you are posting about BEFORE posting Cicero.
A typical deer rifle... often a bolt action, often holding only 5 rounds, is meant for deer, bear, etc. would not usually be carried by police. It is more suited for hunting than police work. Other than possibly an outdated SWAT application, there are much better choices, they are NOT weapons of war and unlike today's assault weapons, they were not made for war applications.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
You really should find out what you are posting about BEFORE posting Cicero.
A typical deer rifle... often a bolt action, often holding only 5 rounds, is meant for deer, bear, etc. would not usually be carried by police. It is more suited for hunting than police work. Other than possibly an outdated SWAT application, there are much better choices, they are NOT weapons of war and unlike today's assault weapons, they were not made for war applications.
So what if it was a semi-auto and held 10 rounds? Is that meant for bigger deer, bear, etc.?
Not meant for war applications? A 30.06 with a scope can easily be used as a sniper rifle.
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Put the entire 2nd amendment as written Harry... A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
This clearly applies to "a well regulated militia", not individual gun rights.
a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.
a military force that engages in rebel or terrorist activities, typically in opposition to a regular army.
all able-bodied civilians eligible by law for military service.
I'm able bodied, and eligible for military service ... now what's your argument?
We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works.
So what if it was a semi-auto and held 10 rounds? Is that meant for bigger deer, bear, etc.?
Not meant for war applications? A 30.06 with a scope can easily be used as a sniper rifle.
As I posted above:
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"Other than possibly an outdated SWAT application, there are much better choices,"
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.
a military force that engages in rebel or terrorist activities, typically in opposition to a regular army.
all able-bodied civilians eligible by law for military service.
I'm able bodied, and eligible for military service ... now what's your argument?
Today's application of our "militia" is the National Guard.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Today's application of our "militia" is the National Guard.
In YOUR opinion .. not the constitutions, courts or military.
We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works.
In YOUR opinion .. not the constitutions, courts or military.
No Harry... it's the opinion of the US Supreme Court, who under the US Constitution are tasked with interpreting the Constitution including the 2nd amendment.
Again... if the phrase "shall not be infringed" applies to individuals, then NY's pistol permit law would be invalid (it isn't) or any restriction gun purchases, (background checks etc) would also be invalid as an "infringement" of the 2nd amendment.
Read what the US Supreme Court says about 2nd amendment RIGHTS:
~Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited.
~It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.
~For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. (Are "prohibitions" not "infringements"?
The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. [United States v.] Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons." (Justice Scalia)
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works.
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