So... The GunHuggers apprehended AT GUNPOINT some UNARMED burglars (not in the commission of a crime).
What would have happened if:
1. The burglars decided to get in their car and leave, or if they just left on foot?
Would the GunHuggers have shot them???
2 The people apprehended were not the suspects, but instead they were ARMED citizens who
had broken no law, but found themselves under attack by a group of craze GUNHUGGERS?
Would the innocent ARMED citizens shoot at the GunHuggers in a running gun battle with
innocent bystanders possibly being shot in the crossfire???[b][/b]

The NRA would have you believe this is just one more GOOD GUY WITH A GUN, but that scenario
is rare.  
I'm glad that no one was killed over a dispute of a TV or some Christmas presents, or that some
innocent civilians were not killed in a case of mistaken identity.

1. They're responsible gun owners, with registered weapons.
2. It's a legal carry state
3. No shots  were fired (see #1)

Your hypothetical "if's", don't apply.

Quoted from HarryP

1. They're responsible gun owners, with registered weapons.
2. It's a legal carry state
3. No shots  were fired (see #1)

Your hypothetical "if's", don't apply.

So Harry... if the alleged criminals were to try to run for it, and the GunHuggers were to shoot and kill them,
would you support murder charges against the GunHuggers???
Would you support murder over a $300 tv?

Quoted from Box A Rox

So Harry... if the alleged criminals were to try to run for it, and the GunHuggers were to shoot and kill them,
would you support murder charges against the GunHuggers???
Would you support murder over a $300 tv?

See #1 and #3 ... hypothetical questions about RESPONSIBLE gun owners.

If they DID fire, they would not fire to kill (i'd lay $ on that one). Secondly, no one, knowing there's a gun or two present, is gonna try and run, they're not that stupid over something so stupid.

Quoted from HarryP

See #1 and #3 ... hypothetical questions about RESPONSIBLE gun owners.

If they DID fire, they would not fire to kill (i'd lay $ on that one). Secondly, no one, knowing there's a gun or two present, is gonna try and run, they're not that stupid over something so stupid.

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If someone has invaded your home, and you fear great bodily harm or death, then yes
-- the law will generally protect you if you shoot. -
Outside of those circumstances, you may be charged with a crime if no bodily harm is present.

If killed, you may be charged with murder or manslaughter, if wounded, (shoot to wound) you may
similarly be charged with a crime.
If I were innocent of any crime and a wacked GunHuggers pulled a gun on me, I might act in the same
manner that I would if in a terrorist active shooter scenario...  I'd run, or hide, or attack, if possible.

In NY no one has the right to shoot without some kind of bodily danger to themselves or to others.  
YOU would be in jail for murder... all for the price of a tv.

Quoted from Box A Rox

If killed, you may be charged with murder or manslaughter, if wounded, (shoot to wound) you may
similarly be charged with a crime.
If I were innocent of any crime and a wacked GunHuggers pulled a gun on me, I might act in the same
manner that I would if in a terrorist active shooter scenario...  I'd run, or hide, or attack, if possible.

In NY no one has the right to shoot without some kind of bodily danger to themselves or to others.  
YOU would be in jail for murder... all for the price of a tv.

Good thing this didn't happen in NY.

Quoted from HarryP

Good thing this didn't happen in NY.

No Harry, it happened in Alabama.
Here is what Alabama law says about using deadly force:

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A person is justified in using deadly physical force if they believe the other person is:
About to use unlawful deadly physical force.
A burglar about to use physical force.
Engaged in kidnapping, assault, robbery, or rape.
Unlawfully and forcefully entering a home or car, or attempting to remove a person against their will.
Breaking into a nuclear power plant.

Like NY, in Alabama it is illegal to shoot someone who is not engaged in deadly force against you
or another person.

If the GunHuggers in this case had shot the tv thieves, the GunHuggers would likely be arrested for
a felony... the TB theives... likely would walk with an appearance ticket.

I like AL law ... sensible!

Quoted from HarryP

I like AL law ... sensible!

The part of the law we are discussing is the same as NY Law.
'Stand your ground' does not apply if you are not under threat of deadly force.

If the thieves run, and the GunHuggers kill them, they will be arrested for murder.

Quoted from Box A Rox

Virginia will no longer recognize concealed-carry handgun permits
from 25 states that have reciprocity agreements with the state, effective
Feb. 1, Attorney General Mark Herring said on Tuesday.

That's GREAT!  Now state can ignore same-sex marriage licenses.  The 14th Amendment has been repealed!  

Quoted from CICERO

That's GREAT!  Now state can ignore same-sex marriage licenses.  The 14th Amendment has been repealed!  

Really Sissy...I'm having a hard time finding where the Constitution states anything about "CONCEALED CARRY"...not
convinced that RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS is violated here...they only said CONCEALED CARRY and not prohibiting the
other "bear arms" reciprocity.  

Quoted from joebxr

Really Sissy...I'm having a hard time finding where the Constitution states anything about "CONCEALED CARRY"...not
convinced that RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS is violated here...they only said CONCEALED CARRY and not prohibiting the
other "bear arms" reciprocity.  

Ahhhh...It doesn't matter.  It's good to see states balkanizing and not recognizing federal laws(marijuana laws) and not recognizing other state licenses.  It's good to know that a Virginian with a conceal carry permit is now a criminal when they cross into Delaware(and visa versa).  Virginians voted to turn conceal carry gun owners in their own state into criminals when they travel to 25 other states.