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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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I'm not a betting man.  I doubt you'd pay off in November when Hillary wins.
If Trump wins... we all lose.



As I thought...You just throw sh*t on here for reactionary value, you really don't believe half of what you post.


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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As I thought...You just throw sh*t on here for reactionary value, you really don't believe half of what you post.


I believe what I post... I don't believe you'd ever pay up.
I'm not interested in taking your money... just interested in having the best possible president for
our country.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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I believe what I post... I don't believe you'd ever pay up.
I'm not interested in taking your money... just interested in having the best possible president for
our country.

   Sure, you do!
Your climate change hypocrisy is just one glaring example of it.

At your predicted Hillary win of 8-10 points, my money would not be taken.....and deep down, you know that..


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   Sure, you do!
Your climate change hypocrisy is just one glaring example of it.

At your predicted Hillary win of 8-10 points, my money would not be taken.....and deep down, you know that..

I wouldn't bet the 'point spread' in any case, but Hillary will win.

In your view anyone who uses any fossil fuel is a 'climate change hypocrite'...
which just underscores your lack of understanding the problem.


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I wouldn't bet the 'point spread' in any case, but Hillary will win.

In your view anyone who uses any fossil fuel is a 'climate change hypocrite'...
which just underscores your lack of understanding the problem.


No, my view is anyone, LIKE YOU, who rails against the fossil fuel industry about global warming, should do their part to minimize the problem.
IN PLAIN ENGLISH, YOU ARE NOT. Using fossil fuels for heating your home and for transportation is fine as in this area, it may be the only practical solution.

But when you use fossil fuels in your toys like your snowmobile and Jet ski, that is being wasteful and frankly, hypocritical.
You can try to justify it by saying you make up for it by other things you do, but in the end, you are CHOOSING to increase your carbon footprint by your selfish choice of recreation.

You can claim that I don't understand the problem, but it's just a cover for hypocrisy that deep down, you know that you are guilty of.


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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No, my view is anyone, LIKE YOU, who rails against the fossil fuel industry about global warming, should do their part to minimize the problem.
IN PLAIN ENGLISH, YOU ARE NOT. Using fossil fuels for heating your home and for transportation is fine as in this area, it may be the only practical solution.

But when you use fossil fuels in your toys like your snowmobile and Jet ski, that is being wasteful and frankly, hypocritical.
You can try to justify it by saying you make up for it by other things you do, but in the end, you are CHOOSING to increase your carbon footprint by your selfish choice of recreation.

You can claim that I don't understand the problem, but it's just a cover for hypocrisy that deep down, you know that you are guilty of.

IF I were to go bowling, in an air conditioned building, and I were the only one there... My carbon footprint for 3 hours of bowling would be  hundreds of times larger than a few gallons of gas for my sled or jetski.
You are correct that if I stayed home instead of going bowling, I would likely use less energy.

Nat Grid sends me a report that compares my energy use, both gas & electric every month.
They measure like sq footage homes and issue a report for how your energy use compares to your
neighbors.
  Most months, our power usage is better than our most efficient neighbors.  
How about you???


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IF I were to go bowling, in an air conditioned building, and I were the only one there... My carbon footprint for 3 hours of bowling would be  hundreds of times larger than a few gallons of gas for my sled or jetski.
You are correct that if I stayed home instead of going bowling, I would likely use less energy.

Nat Grid sends me a report that compares my energy use, both gas & electric every month.
They measure like sq footage homes and issue a report for how your energy use compares to your
neighbors.
  Most months, our power usage is better than our most efficient neighbors.  
How about you???

Its not just the fuel you are burning with your optional toys, its the two stroke motors that they run on, which now matter how clean, discharge oil and fuel byproducts into the air AND water, not to mention the noise pollution of the snowmobile

as for as me,,,Well, with my solar panels that were installed about a year ago, my homes carbon footprint is a net negative for most months... next????


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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Its not just the fuel you are burning with your optional toys, its the two stroke motors that they run on, which now matter how clean, discharge oil and fuel byproducts into the air AND water, not to mention the noise pollution of the snowmobile

as for as me,,,Well, with my solar panels that were installed about a year ago, my homes carbon footprint is a net negative for most months... next????


So Tbird's world still has only two stroke sleds.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAfJ8p0WUvk


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So Tbird's world still has only two stroke sleds.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAfJ8p0WUvk


Of course you have an electric sled.  You wouldnt be caught dead on one of those fossil fuel burning dinosaurs shown on your YouTube video.


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Of course you have an electric sled.  You wouldnt be caught dead on one of those fossil fuel burning dinosaurs shown on your YouTube video.


I probably use more fossil fuel energy online than I do on sleds.  Two PC's, Ipad, two cell phones... etc.
How about you?  Do you have "optional" toys, or are all your toys wind up?


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I probably use more fossil fuel energy online than I do on sleds.  Two PC's, Ipad, two cell phones... etc.
How about you?  Do you have "optional" toys, or are all your toys wind up?


A gas powered lawnmower and snowblower.


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