Well that's what they 'tell us' any way! the lame stream media...aka arm of the government....will tell the masses what to think and believe based on their 'so called' reporting!! their job is to sway public opinion....most times in favor of going to war or to pick sides or to invent a boogie man. they make us hate/fear other cultures, countries, governments that we have NEVER even met or seen!!! DON'T BELIEVE THE PROPAGANDA!!!
It's been written in the media. It's been reported and actual footage shown on TV. It's been denounced and validated by European governments. NATO has validated and denounced. Validated and denounced by the United Nations. Palestinian residents interviewed, validated. YUP...It's a fake...just one giant cornspiracy for sure!!!!!!!!!
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It's been written in the media. It's been reported and actual footage shown on TV. It's been denounced and validated by European governments. NATO has validated and denounced. Validated and denounced by the United Nations. Palestinian residents interviewed, validated. YUP...It's a fake...just one giant cornspiracy for sure!!!!!!!!!
Yes, and the Syrian Government was gassing its own people and the US condemned Assad for crossing the "red line", now the USG is going to support those fighting ISIS, which include the Assad government.
Yup...USG foreign policy. It's completely logical and rational.(for an ignorant Citizenry)
Yes, and the Syrian Government was gassing its own people and the US condemned Assad for crossing the "red line", now the USG is going to support those fighting ISIS, which include the Assad government.
Yup...USG foreign policy. It's completely logical and rational.(for an ignorant Citizenry)
What does your comment have to do with my statement directed at Bumble who was replying to "They positioned rocket launchers in schoolyards, near hospitals and told the populace to stay in their homes."
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
What does your comment have to do with my statement directed at Bumble who was replying to "They positioned rocket launchers in schoolyards, near hospitals and told the populace to stay in their homes."
I guess I was commenting on the thread topic. You are right. As far as human shields, amnisty international does not recognize human shields as a justification for bombing hospitals and schools, and have ZERO evidence that Hamas uses human shields. Again, 1.8 million people on 139 square miles of land. If they fire rockets from anywhere, it's likely near civilian population since they have no military installations.
What does your comment have to do with my statement directed at Bumble who was replying to "They positioned rocket launchers in schoolyards, near hospitals and told the populace to stay in their homes."
I guess I was commenting on the thread topic. You are right. As far as human shields, amnisty international does not recognize human shields as a justification for bombing hospitals and schools, and have ZERO evidence that Hamas uses human shields. Again, 1.8 million people on 139 square miles of land. If they fire rockets from anywhere, it's likely near civilian population since they have no military installations.
I guess I was commenting on the thread topic. You are right. As far as human shields, amnisty international does not recognize human shields as a justification for bombing hospitals and schools, and have ZERO evidence that Hamas uses human shields. Again, 1.8 million people on 139 square miles of land. If they fire rockets from anywhere, it's likely near civilian population since they have no military installations.
Putting words in my mouth again. First you quote my response to Bumble wrongly, then you associate me with statements that I never made.
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Alarmist fears??? No, you have the wrong person. I follow the science on Climate Change. For "alarmist fears" see Henry who is filling his home bunker with guns ammo and doomsday provisions.
No, he is correct.
You are an environmental alarmist actively decrying the end of the world is coming from global warming.
Climates change.
It always has.
Just because some jackwipe stands up and claims it's because of evil corporations, you gobble it up like it was Al Gore's feces.
I'll have you know I stopped the end of the world from occurring at least 5 times on purpose, and once accidentally.
They positioned rocket launchers in schoolyards, near hospitals and told the populace to stay in their homes. Hamas fires rockets, Israel retaliates by striking the rocket site. Some kids get killed and then it's off to the press blaming Israel for purposely targeting children, sick people and innocent civilians.
Does having a day care in the Oklahoma City Federal building qualify as human shields too?
Putting words in my mouth again. First you quote my response to Bumble wrongly, then you associate me with statements that I never made.
I never put words in your mouth. I made a statement. I acknowledged quoting you wrongly and I responded. You posted what I assume you consider authorities that validate hamas using human shields. I posted another organization that claims there is no evidence of that.
Where do you have issue now? Is it just the fact that I respond at all?
I never put words in your mouth. I made a statement. I acknowledged quoting you wrongly and I responded. You posted what I assume you consider authorities that validate hamas using human shields. I posted another organization that claims there is no evidence of that.
Where do you have issue now? Is it just the fact that I respond at all?
I don't find where Amnesty International has made the statements you have identified? Regardless, I don't believe anyone or any organization "justifies" using human shields for any purpose. Again, to my statement, I am pointing out that the use of human shields (as you've identified), is not fictitious, but rather quite real and shown to be true. That was what I was putting forward...not that anyone justifies it!
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The Israeli authorities claim that Hamas and Palestinian armed groups use Palestinian civilians in Gaza as “human shields”. Does Amnesty International have any evidence that this has occurred during the current hostilities?
Amnesty International is monitoring and investigating such reports, but does not have evidence at this point that Palestinian civilians have been intentionally used by Hamas or Palestinian armed groups during the current hostilities to “shield” specific locations or military personnel or equipment from Israeli attacks. In previous conflicts Amnesty International has documented that Palestinian armed groups have stored munitions in and fired indiscriminate rockets from residential areas in the Gaza Strip in violation of international humanitarian law. Reports have also emerged during the current conflict of Hamas urging residents to ignore Israeli warnings to evacuate. However, these calls may have been motivated by a desire to minimize panic and displacement, in any case, such statements are not the same as directing specific civilians to remain in their homes as “human shields” for fighters, munitions, or military equipment. Under international humanitarian law even if “human shields” are being used Israel’s obligations to protect these civilians would still apply.
(Gaza) – Israeli air attacks in Gaza investigated by Human Rights Watch have been targeting apparent civilian structures and killing civilians in violation of the laws of war. Israel should end unlawful attacks that do not target military objectives and may be intended as collective punishment or broadly to destroy civilian property. Deliberate or reckless attacks violating the laws of war are war crimes, Human Rights Watch said.
Israeli attacks in Gaza since July 7, 2014, which Israeli officials said delivered more than 500 tons of explosives in missiles, aerial bombs, and artillery fire, killed at least 178 people and wounded 1,361 as of July 14, including 635 women and children, according to the United Nations. Preliminary UN reports identified 138 people, about 77 percent of those killed, as civilians, including 36 children, and found that the attacks had destroyed 1,255 homes, displacing at least 7,500 people.
“Israel’s rhetoric is all about precision attacks but attacks with no military target and many civilian deaths can hardly be considered precise,” said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch. “Recent documented cases in Gaza sadly fit Israel’s long record of unlawful airstrikes with high civilian casualties.”
Palestinian armed groups also should end indiscriminate rocket attacks launched toward Israeli population centers. Israeli media reported that Palestinian armed groups have launched 1,500 rockets at Israel, wounding five Israeli civilians and destroying property.
Israeli forces and Palestinian armed groups conducted fewer attacks and rocket launches in May and early June. An Israeli airstrike killed an alleged member of an armed group and his son on a motorcycle in Gaza on June 11, sparking rocket launches by Palestinian armed groups, and leading to a massive escalation of Israeli attacks on July 7. Israel also blamed Hamas for the abduction and murder of three Israeli teenagers near a West Bank settlement on June 12 and launched a military operation in the West Bank on June 13, killing at least six Palestinians. Hamas had praised the kidnappings but denied responsibility.
Human Rights Watch investigated four Israeli strikes during the July military offensive in Gaza that resulted in civilian casualties and either did not attack a legitimate military target or attacked despite the likelihood of civilian casualties being disproportionate to the military gain. Such attacks committed deliberately or recklessly constitute war crimes under the laws of war applicable to all parties. In these cases, the Israeli military has presented no information to show that it was attacking lawful military objectives or acted to minimize civilian casualties.
Israel has wrongly claimed as a matter of policy that civilian members of Hamas or other political groups who do not have a military role are “terrorists” and therefore valid military targets, and has previously carried out hundreds of unlawful attacks on this basis. Israel has also targeted family homes of alleged members of armed groups without showing that the structure was being used for military purposes.
On July 11, an Israeli attack on the Fun Time Beach café near the city of Khan Yunis killed nine civilians, including two 15-year-old children, and wounded three, including a 13-year-old boy. An Israeli military spokesman said the attack was “targeting a terrorist” but presented no evidence that any of those at the café, who had gathered to watch a World Cup match, were participating in military operations, or that the killing of one alleged “terrorist” in a crowded café would justify the expected civilian casualties.
In another July 11 attack, an Israeli missile struck a vehicle in the Bureij refugee camp, killing the two municipal workers inside. The men were driving home in a marked municipal vehicle after clearing rubble from a road damaged in an airstrike. Their relatives said that neither man was affiliated with an armed group, and that the driver had followed the same daily routine in the same vehicle every day since July 7. The explosion blew the roof off the vehicle and partly disemboweled a 9-year-old girl and wounded her sister, 8, who were sitting in front of their home nearby. Human Rights Watch found no evidence of a military objective in the vehicle or in the area at the time.
An Israeli airstrike on July 10 on the family home of Mohammed al-Hajj, a tailor, in the densely crowded Khan Yunis refugee camp killed seven civilian family members, including two children, and wounded more than twenty civilians. An eighth fatality, al-Hajj’s 20-year-old son, was a low-ranking member of the Qassam Brigades, the armed wing of Hamas, residents told Human Rights Watch. The Israeli military said the attack was being investigated. Even if the son was the intended target, the nature of the attack appears indiscriminate and would in any case be disproportionate.
“The presence of a single, low-level fighter would hardly justify the appalling obliteration of an entire family,” Whitson said. “Israel would never accept an argument that any Israeli home of an Israel Defense Force member would be a valid military target.”
A fourth Israeli airstrike, on July 9, killed Amal Abed Ghafour, who was 7-months pregnant, and her 1-year-old daughter, and wounded her husband and 3-year-old son. The family lived across the street from an apartment building that was struck with multiple missiles, according to witnesses. Residents of nearby homes said Israeli forces fired a small non-explosive “warning” missile at the apartment building minutes before the main missile strikes. However, the family did not know of the warning or have time to flee. Israeli officials have not said why they targeted the apartment building.
A brief initial statement on July 8 by the Israeli military spokesperson’s office asserted that military attacks had targeted “four homes of activists in the Hamas terror organization who are involved in terrorist activity and direct and carry out high-trajectory fire towards Israel,” without any further qualification. In subsequent statements, the military said that its policy is to attack homes used as “command and control” centers or “terrorist infrastructure” after warning residents to leave, but has provided no information to support these vague claims.
The Israeli rights group B’Tselem said on July 13 that the Israel Defense Forces spokesperson had changed the wording of statements concerning such attacks over the course of the current military offensive, but that in only one specific case did the military claim that weapons were hidden in a home it had attacked. An Israeli military official stated on July 12 that the military has targeted “more than 100 homes of commanders of different ranks” in Gaza, the Israeli news website Ynet reported.
Civilian structures such as residential homes become lawful targets only when they are being used for military purposes. While the laws of war encourage the use of effective advance warnings of attacks to minimize civilian casualties, providing warnings does not make an otherwise unlawful attack lawful.
For warnings to be effective, civilians need adequate time to leave and go to a place of safety before an attack. In several cases Human Rights Watch investigated, Israel gave warnings, but carried out the attack within five minutes or less. Given that Gaza has no bomb shelters, civilians realistically often have no place to flee.
Attacks targeting civilians or civilian property are unlawful, as are attacks that do not or cannot discriminate between civilians and combatants. Attacks intended to punish the family members of an enemy commander or fighter would also constitute unlawful collective punishment. Attacks causing the extensive destruction of property carried out unlawfully and wantonly are also prohibited.
“Warning families to flee might reduce civilian casualties but they don’t make illegal attacks any less illegal,” Whitson said. “The Israeli failure to demonstrate why attacks that are killing civilians are lawful raises serious questions as to whether these attacks are intended to target civilians or wantonly destroy civilian property.”
The United Nations Human Rights Council should hold a special session to address violations of international human rights and humanitarian law in the context of the conflict, Human Rights Watch said. The Council should mandate the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights to form a fact-finding mission to impartially investigate, report promptly and publicly on violations by all sides, and issue recommendations to the parties and the UN.
I don't find where Amnesty International has made the statements you have identified? Regardless, I don't believe anyone or any organization "justifies" using human shields for any purpose.
I didn't say "justify", I said "validate" that Hamas ever used civilian human shields.
...amnisty international does not recognize human shields as a justification for bombing hospitals and schools, and have ZERO evidence that Hamas uses human shields.
and I stated: "Regardless, I don't believe anyone or any organization "justifies" using human shields for any purpose. " Not sure what your issue is with what I said, especially since it did not attack your words but rather agree that there is no justification!
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For "alarmist fears" see Henry who is filling his home bunker with guns ammo and doomsday provisions.
Let's see who's better off if the SHTF, better hope FEMA is around to feed you
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
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