Quoted from daveinomahafromrotterdam

Humanity is when one is self-sustaining.

A person in a coma isn't a human? YIKES!

Quoted from CICERO

A person in a coma isn't a human? YIKES!

Quoted from CICERO

A person in a coma isn't a human? YIKES!

nope...vegetable

Quoted from senders

nope...vegetable

Like a tomato?

Gee abortion.....
  of course everyone does what they want with their own body.
its problematic when one body comes alive inside of another through no fault of its own.
When does life begin??
If your religious, it began with God.If yer not it began with a bing bang or some other theory.
Could we agree that life is life no matter what stage it is in.
This is about responsibility.
what about the new agers who reincanrate how would you feel if on your second trip back  the doc reached in and suked you apart in peices, or gave you a  bath with a
chemical solution.
Can you not see this cruelty in this??
we have become a cold hard hearted society,
pregnatn is not a curse but we have turned it into one.
even the mighty ohbama said he would not want to penalze his girls with a pregnacy.
its not a penalty. it is life ...
love it or leave it.
abortion is another name for killing.
judt because the victum can not fight back dont make it correct.
just because you do not understnad it gives you no right to kill it.
but lefties are a mean sprited bunch anyway so it is to be expected.
heck even if you an evolutionist cant you see that you are killing of your own species?
How is that productive?

Quoted from the blob

Gee abortion.....
  of course everyone does what they want with their own body.
its problematic when one body comes alive inside of another through no fault of its own.
When does life begin??
If your religious, it began with God.If yer not it began with a bing bang or some other theory.
Could we agree that life is life no matter what stage it is in.
This is about responsibility.
what about the new agers who reincanrate how would you feel if on your second trip back  the doc reached in and suked you apart in peices, or gave you a  bath with a
chemical solution.
Can you not see this cruelty in this??
we have become a cold hard hearted society,
pregnatn is not a curse but we have turned it into one.
even the mighty ohbama said he would not want to penalze his girls with a pregnacy.
its not a penalty. it is life ...
love it or leave it.
abortion is another name for killing.
judt because the victum can not fight back dont make it correct.
just because you do not understnad it gives you no right to kill it.
but lefties are a mean sprited bunch anyway so it is to be expected.
heck even if you an evolutionist cant you see that you are killing of your own species?
How is that productive?

Actually, the POTENTIAL human inside the woman's body is part of the woman's body until that POTENTIAL human is self-sustaining. That means no longer attached to the woman in any way.

Hey sissiro you freakin idiot- a person in a coma is self-sustaining. They are no longer attached to their mother. Self-sustaining does not mean independent you dumb fuhhck loser!

then we might be 'right' to say an elderly person stuck in a wheelchair and unable to gather/cook/feed themselves is NOT
self sustaining....

technically they are no longer a human but a potential funeral home customer

Quoted from senders

then we might be 'right' to say an elderly person stuck in a wheelchair and unable to gather/cook/feed themselves is NOT
self sustaining....

technically they are no longer a human but a potential funeral home customer

Yes, why should a person take care of their elderly parent that can no longer sustain their own life?  It's no longer a human and now a burden on society, costing the taxpayer millions of $.

The elderly that can not sustain their own lives are "former life".   Just like the unborn is "potential life".

Quoted from daveinomahafromrotterdam

Hey sissiro you freakin idiot- a person in a coma is self-sustaining. They are no longer attached to their mother. Self-sustaining does not mean independent you dumb fuhhck loser!

Really, a person a coma doesn't need a feeding tube?

Oh, and BTW it does mean independent.

Self sustaining
Able to support or sustain oneself or itself without outside aid.

Able to sustain oneself or itself independently.

Quoted from CICERO

Really, a person a coma doesn't need a feeding tube?

Oh, and BTW it does mean independent.

Self sustaining
Able to support or sustain oneself or itself without outside aid.

Able to sustain oneself or itself independently.

I'll try to make this easy so even a cretin like yourself can understand sissie. Self-sustaining as it applies to humanity is free and independent of one's mother- the umbilical cord is cut! Dependence on other humans or technology does not affects one's humanity. I get that you ultra-conservative (like senders, yourself and the rest of your girlfriends) find taking care of the elderly or proving support to the disabled a cramp in your style- but the elderly or the disabled are no less human than anyone else no longer attached to their mother. Then again- you and senders may be proof of pure bacteria, virus or fungi.

And why in the holy hell were you ultra-conservatives on here on Super Bowl Sunday???!!! No life losers!!!!

I'll try to make this easy so even a cretin like yourself can understand sissie. Self-sustaining as it applies to humanity is free and independent of one's mother- the umbilical cord is cut! Dependence on other humans or technology does not affects one's humanity. I get that you ultra-conservative (like senders, yourself and the rest of your girlfriends) find taking care of the elderly or proving support to the disabled a cramp in your style- but the elderly or the disabled are no less human than anyone else no longer attached to their mother. Then again- you and senders may be proof of pure bacteria, virus or fungi.



the only thing you do not seem to understand is that thing everyone calls love.

not like you love football or you love ice cream or that girl or boy or transgender makes Me feel good,
Love is an action verb it is outgoing not incoming.
So of course if a female human does not have love for anything other than herself this line of reasoning is understandable.
Hey if a wombman wants to end the life that is within her she is of course free to do it at any time and sure it should be safe and affordable but lets not sugar coat it with scientific sounding words like abortion lets just say get rid of this life ,it is unsustainable it cant complain so just kill it,
Yes you are free to do that but I will not pay for it nor can i celebrate with you in it.

Quoted from the blob

I'll try to make this easy so even a cretin like yourself can understand sissie. Self-sustaining as it applies to humanity is free and independent of one's mother- the umbilical cord is cut! Dependence on other humans or technology does not affects one's humanity. I get that you ultra-conservative (like senders, yourself and the rest of your girlfriends) find taking care of the elderly or proving support to the disabled a cramp in your style- but the elderly or the disabled are no less human than anyone else no longer attached to their mother. Then again- you and senders may be proof of pure bacteria, virus or fungi.



the only thing you do not seem to understand is that thing everyone calls love.

not like you love football or you love ice cream or that girl or boy or transgender makes Me feel good,
Love is an action verb it is outgoing not incoming.
So of course if a female human does not have love for anything other than herself this line of reasoning is understandable.

Hey if a wombman wants to end the life that is within her she is of course free to do it at any time and sure it should be safe and affordable but lets not sugar coat it with scientific sounding words like abortion lets just say get rid of this life ,it is unsustainable it cant complain so just kill it,
Yes you are free to do that but I will not pay for it nor can i celebrate with you in it.

Reaaaaaalllllllllly???!!!! The day you demand memorial services for miscarried fetus's, miscarried fetus's unknown to the woman (it occurs more often than you think), and the billions that end up in landfills as brown stains on disposed tampons every day, then you can talk about your "love" of the fetus.

BTW- I DO LOVE FOOTBALL! There are 2 seasons. Football season and waiting for football season.

it happens ALL the time....a woman's egg is just an egg.....but a fetus is sperm + egg...we can give everything a nice
palatable name so it sounds like we are that intelligent and know ALL about the human spirit/mind/body......

it's a moot argument....

the issue is that ALL the weight of pro-creation beginning and ending rests on the woman's shoulders no matter what....

that's a fu(king big pyramid stone to carry....we all like to call it women's rights as if it makes it more civil and palatable and
disregards the responsibility/concern of the sperm 'donor'.....

as long as the sperm donors are lifting up the woman as a powerful hammer of choice they don't have to worry about the
sperm donor's responsibility/choice...pretty pre-historic

Quoted from senders

it happens ALL the time....a woman's egg is just an egg.....but a fetus is sperm + egg...we can give everything a nice
palatable name so it sounds like we are that intelligent and know ALL about the human spirit/mind/body......

it's a moot argument....

the issue is that ALL the weight of pro-creation beginning and ending rests on the woman's shoulders no matter what....

that's a fu(king big pyramid stone to carry....we all like to call it women's rights as if it makes it more civil and palatable and
disregards the responsibility/concern of the sperm 'donor'.....

as long as the sperm donors are lifting up the woman as a powerful hammer of choice they don't have to worry about the
sperm donor's responsibility/choice...pretty pre-historic

The fact is senders- you can't tell one of your fellow women what to do with their own body, including, but not limited to, choosing or not choosing to terminate a pregnancy. If you choose when you reach the age that you can get pregnant, you have the right to carry a pregnancy to term. Again, you don't have the right to tell one of your fellow women what to do with their pregnancy.

Since senders wants to do her usual ultra-conservative deflecting, lets get back on point. Pregnancies terminate all the time without external assistance. Including, but not limited to, miscarriages (including miscarriages that take place w/o the knowledge of the miscarriage taking place since the woman didn't realize she was pregnant). Not to mention the billions and billions of potential humans who end up as brown stains on tampons in landfills daily. If you are going to play the potential human's rights card- do the right thing and take it to it's logical end.

DEMAND memorials for all miscarriages. DEMAND that science develop a test that can detect miscarriages that are currently unknown due to the woman not being to detect signs of pregnancy so those potential humans can be memorialized and DOUBLY DEMAND that the billions of potential humans that end up as brown stains on tampons in landfills daily be memorialized.

Quoted from daveinomahafromrotterdam

The fact is senders- you can't tell one of your fellow women what to do with their own body, including, but not limited to, choosing or not choosing to terminate a pregnancy. If you choose when you reach the age that you can get pregnant, you have the right to carry a pregnancy to term. Again, you don't have the right to tell one of your fellow women what to do with their pregnancy.

Since senders wants to do her usual ultra-conservative deflecting, lets get back on point. Pregnancies terminate all the time without external assistance. Including, but not limited to, miscarriages (including miscarriages that take place w/o the knowledge of the miscarriage taking place since the woman didn't realize she was pregnant). Not to mention the billions and billions of potential humans who end up as brown stains on tampons in landfills daily. If you are going to play the potential human's rights card- do the right thing and take it to it's logical end.

DEMAND memorials for all miscarriages. DEMAND that science develop a test that can detect miscarriages that are currently unknown due to the woman not being to detect signs of pregnancy so those potential humans can be memorialized and DOUBLY DEMAND that the billions of potential humans that end up as brown stains on tampons in landfills daily be memorialized.

you're stupid.....I don't care what choices women make...I make the case of the men standing behind and hiding their
sperm sacs from the responsibility/choice that is theirs....and I also make the case of a bunch of women who think
they are ferrel cats and just keep poppin' 'em out year after baby daddy year as if they hold the hammer and it's
a super power.....