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Box A Rox
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You just told me the Constitution doesn't enumerate a "right" to choose to do with your body?  Which is it?  


Apparently you didn't read the other post on this subject.  
Here it is again:

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1. Do abortion laws that criminalize all abortions, except those required on medical advice
to save the life of the mother, violate the Constitution of the United States?
~ Yes. State criminal abortion laws that except from criminality only life-saving procedures on the
mother’s behalf, and that do not take into consideration the stage of pregnancy and other interests,
are unconstitutional for violating the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.


2. Does the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
protect the right to privacy, including the right to obtain an abortion?
~ Yes. The Due Process Clause protects the right to privacy, including a woman’s right to terminate
her pregnancy, against state action.


3. Are there any circumstances where a state may enact laws prohibiting abortion?
~ Yes. Though a state cannot completely deny a woman the right to terminate her pregnancy,
it has legitimate interests in protecting both the pregnant woman’s health and the potentiality
of human life at various stages of pregnancy.


4. Did the fact that Roe’s pregnancy had already terminated naturally before this case was
decided by the Supreme Court render her lawsuit moot?
~ No. The natural termination of Roe’s pregnancy did not render her suit moot.

5. Was the district court correct in denying injunctive relief?
~Yes. The district court was correct in denying injunctive relief.




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The Court held that, in regard to abortions during the first trimester, the decision
must be left to the judgment of the pregnant woman’s doctor. In regard to second trimester
pregnancies, states may promote their interests in the mother’s health by regulating abortion
procedures related to the health of the mother. Regarding third trimester pregnancies, states
may promote their interests in the potentiality of human life by regulating or even prohibiting
abortion, except when necessary to preserve the life or health of the mother.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Apparently you didn't read the other post on this subject.  
Here it is again:


Yup, read it.  Women don't have a right to choose - not natural rights.  I understand the phrase "right to choose" is good rhetoric and campaign slogans, but it just isn't so.  


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You always seem to weave your hatred of America in your posts sissiero. You can always move to North Korea or Syria. They're your type of religionists and government.
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Don’t disparage those who dare to think differently

All my life I have found myself opposed to the dominant political orthodoxy.
   Over the last 40-plus years, the orthodoxy has changed directions, but has not changed in nature.

Rational debate is not unheard of, but it is rare.

Generally when someone argues against the orthodox positions, it is easier to apply a label and dismiss them.

   In the late 1960s, when I couldn’t see the sense of the death and devastation in Vietnam, I was either a “hippie” or a “communist.”

When many of us were outraged that most rivers contained raw sewage, some changed colors each day, and one even caught on fire, we were labeled “tree huggers.”


Since I believed, like Dr. Martin Luther King, that a person should be judged by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin, there were more than a few that would give me a label that can’t go into print today.

   The ultimate dismissal of any protests came in the slogan, “America, love it or leave it.”

   Although the dominant orthodoxy has changed, the nature remains the same.

Now if I want the government ($17 trillion in debt) to stop throwing money at every issue, I am dismissed as a “tea partier.”

If I note that we crafted immigration laws to allow an optimal ingress of immigrants and to give people of all lands an equal chance, and I want those laws enforced, I am a racist.

If I notice what the saline is for in a saline abortion, and I am repulsed by it, I am conducting a war on women.

If I know enough history to realize that the SAFE Act is not crafted to stop crime, I am a gun nut.

   Now the governor of New York has revived the “love it or leave it” dismissal, stating that if I am an extreme conservative (and by his definition I seem to be) then I have no place in New York.

   The more things change, the more they stay the same.


   NORMAN PERAZZO Glenville fools who worked and paid taxes faithfully to this ungrateful state!

   God forbid he should ever become president.

I will not be welcome in this country just because my views do not reflect his.

Talk about being intolerant!

I am proud to say I am a conservative, but not proud to say I live in New York.


   Mr. Cuomo, I thought you were everybody’s governor.


Who is going to pay “your” taxes when all unwelcomed conservatives move out of “your” state?

Then how will you support all “your” lazy voters who don’t pay taxes but unfortunately support you?

   I consider Mr. Cuomo’s socialist attitude extreme and not normal for most Americans. His attitude of intolerance is not welcome in this state.

   BONNIE ROSBOZOM
   Glenville

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Here's the deal libbie. I never said that you and sissiero can't have your backward opinions. You are entitled to be as much of an asssshat as you like. I merely suggested that you guys move somewhere where the population and government are full of like minded people with yourselves- N. Korea and Syria are 2 examples where backward extremists like you guys would be happier.
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I merely suggested that you guys move somewhere where the population and government are full of like minded people with yourselves- N. Korea and Syria are 2 examples where backward extremists like you guys would be happier.


If I though the US government wasn't going to meddle in the affairs of those countries you mention, I might take you up on the offer.  But if you listen to the political rhetoric going on, the US government is chomping at the bit to blow those 3rd world countries to pieces.  


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Stop Fawning Over Male Feminists
Cassandra Leveille's avatar image By Cassandra Leveille  19 hours ago 13 COMMENTS  |  1569 SHARES
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stop, fawning, over, male, feminists, Stop Fawning Over Male Feminists Image Credit: Facebook
If you've been immersed in the feminist sphere of the Internet for a while, you know how this goes already. An attractive, heterosexual male celebrity declares himself a feminist. Like clockwork, the feminist blogosphere whips itself up into a lather to heap praise upon this "evolved" man.

Joseph Gordon-Levitt's admission into the feminist fold last week is only one of the most recent examples of men celebrated for taking on the mantle of feminism and making the cause "look good." Other recent examples include John Legend, as well as more questionable mentions like Robin Thicke who defended his controversial song "Blurred Lines" as the beginning of a "feminist movement." We are far too eager to heap praise on men just for claiming the label "feminist," even if they don't follow through with action to challenge the larger sexist culture.

Our tendency to take men at their word, instead of examining their actions and history, allows them to dodge accountability. Perhaps the most famous example of this is the enabling of self-proclaimed "male feminist" Hugo Schwyzer, despite his constant silencing of feminists of color who brought up his history of abuse. As a white heterosexual man, his narrative of redemption was simply accepted at face value by liberal white feminists. Only when revelations broke that he had been sleeping with his students and had no credentials to teach gender studies was he finally discredited by the white feminist blogosphere.

Even when men have carved off their own spaces to explore feminist politics, these attempts have turned sour. In her investigation of the Good Men Project, PolicyMic pundit Liz Hall Magill examined how the Good Men Project transformed from a space to discuss positive performances of masculinity to a hotbed of rape apologism. The GMP's downturn even inspired a parody Twitter account:



As Minh Nguyen observed in a guest blog for the author Kiese Laymon's website, Cold Drank, self-declared "liberal" men seem to be very good at chattering off platitudes that seem vaguely feminist because they see it as a passcode to get laid. Nguyen writes:

But confusingly, misogynists are sometimes men who speak softly and eat vegan and say "a woman's sexual freedom is an essential component to her liberation. So come here." It's a tricky world out there. And while I'd prefer a critical approach to gender from men I elect, read and even bed, in my experience, the so-called feminist men I've met deep down have not been less antagonistic or bigoted toward women. What I see over and over again is misogyny in sheep's clothing, and at this point, I would rather see wolves as wolves.

Of course there are male feminists who are well-intentioned and just as deeply feminist as any female devoted to the movement, but we could do well to be more skeptical of our immediate cultural adulation of men who do nothing more than proclaim to be feminists. As much as we may idealistically wish for men to understand that gender roles are restricting for them as well, far too many men are comfortable with the status quo from which they considerably benefit. Heterosexual men who have internalized feminist politics are, sadly, few and far in between. We still live in a society where we're more likely to be mansplained at than listened to.    



Liberal white feminists' overwhelming focus on recruiting heterosexual men who refuse to interrogate their privilege ends up centering feminism on men's approval of us. We need to have spaces where we can address the needs of our movement without falling into the patterns of ceding space in conversations to men. We need to continue working toward a feminist praxis that includes an active engagement with the ways we replicate oppression by privileging white men's voices and perspectives over the voices of women of color.

Our activist energy is a precious resource, and we could be channeling it towards issues more deserving of our attention. And if there are men who earnestly want to help work toward addressing these issues with us? Great! But recruiting men just so feminism can have a larger head count? That's something that should be left in 2013.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Hey Box- he did it again.  
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Hey Box- he did it again.  


Yup!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Box looks in the mirror and STILL doesn't know who Box is.......but likes to pick up labels given as 'legal by authorities' to claim as
his/her own.......

silly silly silly......just like frosty the snowman


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Here's the deal libbie. I never said that you and sissiero can't have your backward opinions. You are entitled to be as much of an asssshat as you like. I merely suggested that you guys move somewhere where the population and government are full of like minded people with yourselves- N. Korea and Syria are 2 examples where backward extremists like you guys would be happier.


Wow, present day Communist loyalists telling people to love it or leave it.

You, box and Cuomo sound like the rulers of 1600's England.

So they took them up on the offer and fled to the land of the free.

Later modified by Communist thugs back to intolerant place where you can shut up or get out.

A place where rights are given, not a birthright.

The founding fathers died for nothing.

Their legacy has been murdered.

Liberty and freedom mean nothing anymore except justification by loyalists to call people traitors.

Innocent until proven guilty, has been abolished by executive orders allowing bulk search of your private lives.

The paranoid government justifies everything as necessary to keep you safe.

Their actions have damaged personal freedom and rights, more than all the terrorist attacks ever committed.




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As I've told you libbie- you have every right in America to hold any backward asssshat opinion you like. Let's be clear- your opinions are amongst the most backward aasssshatiest. What you don't have a right to do is take away a woman's right to terminate a pregnancy. Again- if you want to be Pope of the country, move somewhere where you'll be comfortable amongst your own kind. Here's some examples: Iran, N. Korea, Syria. Rwanda, Pakistan...They're your kind of people!
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"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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whats the deaf sign for " put yur d!ck back in your pants ? "


Oneida Elementary K-2  Yates 3-6
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whats the deaf sign for " put yur d!ck back in your pants ? "


Something to do with knees and a mouth?





"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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The deaf sign doesn't change the fact that a terminated pregancy does not end the life of a person or a baby or even a human. As long as it is part of the woman's body- it is a POTENTIAL human, POTENTIAL baby or POTENTIAL person. Humanity is when one is self-sustaining.
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