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October 16, 2013, 4:24pm Report to Moderator
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Box the race card died when Obama was elected so stop trying to play it again. There will always be some that will hate a certain race for personal reasons whether it's blacks, Asians, Japanese, Chinese or even Americans as is the case with many Muslims. Again Box you go and paint with a wide brush that all Oath Keepers are racist which is totally false. You do the same thing with the Tea Party or anyone else that disagrees with Obama's agenda. Reid proved how hateful the Dems really are when he denied a vote in the Senate that would fund cancer treatment for kids for political reasons during the shutdown.
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When all else fails use the race card, that's the sign of a losing argument.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Your full of sh*t box, so when you get pulled over you demand a ticket because you broke a law, or do you like every person I know pray he lets you off with a warning. Cops should use reasonable judgement even with a arrestable offenses,
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Yup.  A cop should use reasonable judgement.  If in a Katrina case or a case of a riot... and the governor
orders martial law... with no guns outside of homes until the riot is quelled... do you want this cop to say
I'm not taking away that guys gun because he is out on the streets armed?
The offender could say he didn't know of the order, and the cop could (reasonable judgement) if he believed
him, confiscate the gun or put the guy and his gun back in his house.  
We are talking of a case where the cop WILL NEVER, NOT EVER take away a gun in this riot...
if he is a F'n OathCreaper!
He's sworn an oath... a sacred oath by the way they tell it.  SO he CAN'T TAKE AWAY THIS GUN!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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When all else fails use the race card, that's the sign of a losing argument.


So what is it about Obama that caused a nationwide group of people to suddenly swear an oath to
NOT FOLLOW THE ORDERS OF THE PRESIDENT, when they have already sworn to follow his orders?

Hmmmm what could it be?
According to Homeland security warnings... IT'S RACISM! THEY WILL NEVER ACCEPT A BLACK
US PRESIDENT  



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Yup.  A cop should use reasonable judgement.  If in a Katrina case or a case of a riot... and the governor
orders martial law... with no guns outside of homes until the riot is quelled... do you want this cop to say
I'm not taking away that guys gun because he is out on the streets armed?
The offender could say he didn't know of the order, and the cop could (reasonable judgement) if he believed
him, confiscate the gun or put the guy and his gun back in his house.  
We are talking of a case where the cop WILL NEVER, NOT EVER take away a gun in this riot...
if he is a F'n OathCreaper!
He's sworn an oath... a sacred oath by the way they tell it.  SO he CAN'T TAKE AWAY THIS GUN!


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Police are trained EXACTLY on when to arrest... when a law is questionable or when they've crossed the
line.  
His PERSONAL OPINION is irrelevant.  His training tells him when to arrest... if he has a problem with a law
he should seek advice from his superiors or if they don't know then from the NY attorney general.


Sorry box you already said the cops opinion doesn't matter, which means he should not use his judgement. So we have the race card and box trying to play both sides, stick a fork in this thread it is done.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Sorry box you already said the cops opinion doesn't matter, which means he should not use his judgement. So we have the race card and box trying to play both sides, stick a fork in this thread it is done.


I said:
His PERSONAL OPINION is irrelevant.  His training tells him when to arrest... if he has a problem with a law
he should seek advice from his superiors or if they don't know then from the NY attorney general.

Part of his training is to USE JUDGEMENT on each case.  That is different than a cops personal opinion.
We both agree he can use judgement on some cases, but not on the validity of the law.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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OathCreaper Vigilantes/Domestic Terrorists:

Aug 2011
FBI Manhunt for 'Timothy McVeigh-Like' Ex-Marine on the Lam

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Charles Alan Dyer, 31, of Duncan, Okla., failed to appear in court on Monday,
Aug. 15, on charges he raped a 7-year-old gir. His failure to appear launched a federal
dragnet covering 12 states in the South.

Authorities are warning that Dyer is believed to be armed and dangerous. Sheriff Wayne
McKinney of Stephens County, Okla., described him as a "Timothy McVeigh" like individual,
referring to the right wing militia member executed for blowing up a federal building in
Oklahoma City in 1995.

Dyer is part of a controversial group called Oath Keepers that includes current and
former law enforcement and military members who take an oath to obey the Constitution
rather than the president. Dyer has posted videos on YouTube talking about a "New
World Order" and calling for people to "rise up" against "tyrannical government."

An ABC News review of court records reveals that Dyer was indicted on federal charges
for possessing an unregistered Colt M-203 grenade launcher.


ABC News
http://abcnews.go.com/US/fbi-manhunt-oath-keeper-charles-dyer-child-rape/story?id=14372935


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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When they created this guy, the government forgot to carve a swastika into his forehead and give him an eye patch


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Quoted from GrahamBonnet
When they created this guy, the government forgot to carve a swastika into his forehead and give him an eye patch


...and wearing a confederate army uniform.  That should strike fear in the citizens.


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I heard they are looking for his brother to  



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Quoted from Henry
I heard they are looking for his brother to  



Actually this is a pic of Henry wearing his 'chastity belt'!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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It appears box's paranoia about the Oathkeepers runs deep.  


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Oath Creapers? TeaBaggers? Right Wing Wackos?
                      YES, YES AND YES!


What's the Difference between NY's OathCreapers, Right Wing Wackos, and TeaBaggers???
NOTHIN'.  They are interchangeable.

If you Like TeaBaggers, You'll love OathCreapers.  
Funny on both of their home pages, you will read the same thing...
THAT THEY ARE A 'NON PARTISAN' GROUP!  
TeaBaggers/OathCreapers/RightWingExtremists

A video of a TeaBagger Rally? Or is it an OathCreapers Rally?  Ya Can't Tell Em Apart!



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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Box likes his clubhouse.....box wouldn't want to invite others in...and if the other clubhouse invited box in box would want body
guards


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Obama-Hating Oath Keepers

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Oath Keepers, the anti-government group profiled by Justine Sharrock in our March/April
2010 issue, just got a little creepier. The group recruits active and former military members,
cops, and other law-enforcement types who claim they are worried about government tyranny,
but seem to be equally driven by a deep loathing of President Obama. At their gatherings,
members take an oath that they will disobey "unconstitutional" orders. What's unconstitutional
is pretty much left up to the individual—even if, like it or not, this isn't how our democracy operates.

Up until now, Oath Keepers has mainly been a bunch of pissed-off white dudes talking
tough and holding meetings and rallies and so forth, but now the group is setting out to
train Special Forces-esque "civilian preservation teams" to contend with the apocalyptic
future they see coming to America. "We are flat running out of time and we need to
get as prepared as possible as fast as possible," the group's founder, a lawyer named
Stuart Rhodes, wrote to the group's members.


http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/10/oath-keepers-paramilitary-units-default


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