I wonder if the carpenter, plumber, electrician, roofer, landscaper, furniture manufacturer, etc, that build the houses think six houses are greedy? I guess they would be greedy too for building the houses.
So this isn't just Henry then... Not understanding the concept of "greed" might be an anti-govt phenomina!
Retry reading the dictionary definition might help... Or maybe some are incapable (or unwilling) to accept the concept.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
So this isn't just Henry then... Not understanding the concept of "greed" might be an anti-govt phenomina!
Retry reading the dictionary definition might help... Or maybe some are incapable (or unwilling) to accept the concept.
Not being able to come to terms with the fact that the USG put their own citizens $17 trillion in debt as being the ultimate display of greed has to be a statist phenomena.
Not being able to come to terms with the fact that the USG put their own citizens $17 trillion in debt as being the ultimate display of greed has to be a statist phenomena.
He's Cissy One Note! Every possible issue fits his "Anti Govt Mantra!".
The national debt was formed by a whole group if causes, some good and worth the debt, some pushed upon us, others totally wasteful.
So... Have you learned the actual definition of "GREED" or will you continue to make up definitions as you go to fit your agenda???
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
He's Cissy One Note! Every possible issue fits his "Anti Govt Mantra!".
The national debt was formed by a whole group if causes, some good and worth the debt, some pushed upon us, others totally wasteful.
So... Have you learned the actual definition of "GREED" or will you continue to make up definitions as you go to fit your agenda???
Your definition - excessive desire for wealth and power.
The USG would fit that definition. They plundered the wealth of their citizens and unborn citizens in the tune if $17 trillion, make war with nations for oil, bailed out a few bankers with HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of tax dollars.
That's not greedy? What motivates the USG if not wealth and power?
Your definition - excessive desire for wealth and power.
The USG would fit that definition. They plundered the wealth of their citizens and unborn citizens in the tune if $17 trillion, make war with nations for oil, bailed out a few bankers with HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of tax dollars.
That's not greedy? What motivates the USG if not wealth and power?
Oh Where to begin?
(Cissy if you need a dictionary, I have a few extra that I'll give you, or there are several online.)
Plunder: ~ 1. to rob of goods or valuables by open force, as in war (Cissy will declare, "THE IRS WAGED WAR ON ME!") ~ 2. to take wrongfully, as by pillage, robbery, or fraud (Since Cissy didn't personally vote for a 'tax' or a policy, he considers it illegal. But then Cissy doesn't vote for anything, then weeps at the outcome of his failure to elect like minded people)
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
(Cissy if you need a dictionary, I have a few extra that I'll give you, or there are several online.)
Plunder: ~ 1. to rob of goods or valuables by open force, as in war (Cissy will declare, "THE IRS WAGED WAR ON ME!") ~ 2. to take wrongfully, as by pillage, robbery, or fraud (Since Cissy didn't personally vote for a 'tax' or a policy, he considers it illegal. But then Cissy doesn't vote for anything, then weeps at the outcome of his failure to elect like minded people)
Ok, thank you for clarifying plunder, and how I properly used it. What is the purpose of the IRS? They don't use force to collect money they didn't earn?
Yup, in 08, the USG plundered HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS from the taxpayer and handed it to Wall St bankers. Yup, completely legal plundering. Shucks, I should have voted in 08, maybe I could have stopped the legal theft.
who says when you have 'enough'....that's arbitrary....but of course we have lawyers/judges and legislators to determine when your cup is full enough for you......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Ok, thank you for clarifying plunder, and how I properly used it. What is the purpose of the IRS? They don't use force to collect money they didn't earn?
Yup, in 08, the USG plundered HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS from the taxpayer and handed it to Wall St bankers. Yup, completely legal plundering. Shucks, I should have voted in 08, maybe I could have stopped the legal theft.
Cissy rejects the US Govt, so even when their actions are LEGAL and DESIRABLE and of course the authority to tax it's citizens is in the US Constitution. I guess Cicero even rejects the US Constitution!!!
Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the United States Constitution, is known as the Taxing and Spending Clause. It is the clause that gives the federal government of the United States its power of taxation. Component parts of this clause are known as the General Welfare Clause and the Uniformity Clause.
We get it Cicero. You don't recognize the US govt, its authority or it's Constitution. We understand your view... but the vast majority of US citizens look to the US constitution to list our rights. You exclude yourself from the US govt, then pizz and moan about it.
I never liked the "America, Love it or Leave it" phrase... I felt Americans could 'love it and change it' if they saw problems with the way it operated. You refuse to vote to change it. You refuse to recognize it's authority. You refuse to live by it... so um... Why stay here and suffer for the rest of your life. Go to Somalia... it probably has the LEAST govt on the earth!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The jealous or those who want to use your success for their personal gain
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
The jealous or those who want to use your success for their personal gain
That may occur in society but it has little to do with the Pope's view of RIGHT WINGER MONEY WORSHIP!
"Greed is good"... Your words. Greed IS not need or desire to live a better life as you put it... GREED IS EXCESSIVE.
I'm surprised at the number of posters who line up ignorant of the meaning of the word. Thesaurus: greed - excessive desire to acquire or possess more (especially more material wealth) than one needs or deserves desire - an inclination to want things; "a man of many desires" avariciousness, cupidity, avarice, covetousness - extreme greed for material wealth possessiveness - excessive desire to possess or dominate acquisitiveness - strong desire to acquire and possess
greed - reprehensible acquisitiveness; insatiable desire for wealth (personified as one of the deadly sins)
Merriam Webster
Greed: a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as money) than is needed
The term "SELFISH" applies and may be the reason some seem unable to understand the definition of the word.
I think the following quote describes the reason some are having such a problem understanding a very common concept:
(as posted many times on this board) The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
And again who decides what is excessive, something you keep running from, it is you who decides, is it the pope, is it over a certain amount of money.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Cissy rejects the US Govt, so even when their actions are LEGAL and DESIRABLE and of course the authority to tax it's citizens is in the US Constitution. I guess Cicero even rejects the US Constitution!!!
Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the United States Constitution, is known as the Taxing and Spending Clause. It is the clause that gives the federal government of the United States its power of taxation. Component parts of this clause are known as the General Welfare Clause and the Uniformity Clause. !
I wasn't aware that taking hundreds of billions of dollars and giving it to Wall St private bankers was for the common defense or general welfare of the nation. Got it! Thanks for setting me straight...
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
And again who decides what is excessive, something you keep running from, it is you who decides, is it the pope, is it over a certain amount of money.
When did I suddenly become the board dictionary? If you want to know the meaning of a word, look it up!
Excessive: ~ going beyond the usual, necessary, or proper limit or degree; characterized by excess: ~ exceeding the normal or permitted extents or limits; immoderate; inordinate ~ Exceeding a normal, usual, reasonable, or proper limit. ~ going beyond the usual, necessary, or proper limit or degree; characterized by excess. ~ more than is necessary, normal, or desirable; immoderate
If you consider something 'excessive' then (in this case) it could be defined as greed. The concept would also continue with the other deadly sins: wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony... You could defend "gluttony, lust, pride, etc with the same lack of understanding.
If a guy eats one hamburger... is it excessive? If he eats 10? If he eats 100???
I wonder if this failure to grasp a concept is part of the general Right Wing, defense of their "sins" as listed above.
The whole "selfishness" of the Right may be the reason that GREED IS GOOD in their view. Similarly: Recently the Rabid Right has gotten into trouble defining RAPE... some see it as a minor act. Most of society sees it as a very serious crime.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I wasn't aware that taking hundreds of billions of dollars and giving it to Wall St private bankers was for the common defense or general welfare of the nation. Got it! Thanks for setting me straight...
Your Welcome. I'm glad that I could educate you in some small way.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
And again who decides what is excessive, something you keep running from, it is you who decides, is it the pope, is it over a certain amount of money.
Box determines it. As long as Box can be exempted from whatever is determined excessive, so he can continue his luxuries like snow skiing or jet skiing. His desire to make extra money to afford those luxuries is not greedy.
The key to defining greed is to make sure your excesses aren't included. Then you can continue to be self righteous and point fingers at everybody else that has more than you. It's a great trick.
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