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Box A Rox
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Yes the proper liberal response is to first be in a gun free zone, if by some insane reason that rule doesn't work, you are to hide under a table and hope the shooter doesn't find you, if the shooter finds you, it is recommended you beg for your life and hope at this point the shooter may have a change of heart. In no circumstance are you to defend yourself, this may just enrage the active shooter even more. Police should be on their way, just keep in mind the typical police response time is 6 minutes, calling in swat and setting up a plan is 20 minutes, making entry is another 4 minutes, we thank you for your patience

In the first Gulf War, more US troops were killed by "Friendly Fire" (a good guy with a gun) than were
killed by the enemy.
If professionals with years  of experience and training with guns, end up in a "friendly fire" shooting,
what do you think would happen in a group of inexperienced, untrained group of "Good Guy's With Guns"?

A GOOD GUY WITH A GUN, ALMOST SHOT A GOOD GUY WITH A GUN!
The new poster boy for this (NRA) agenda is Joe Zamudio, a hero in the Tucson
incident. Zamudio was in a nearby drug store when the shooting began, and he
was armed. He ran to the scene and helped subdue the killer. Television interviewers
are celebrating his courage, and pro-gun blogs are touting his equipment. "Bystander
Says Carrying Gun Prompted Him to Help," says the headline in the Wall Street Journal.
But before we embrace Zamudio's brave intervention as proof of the value of being
armed, let's hear the whole story. "I came out of that store, I clicked the safety off,
and I was ready," he explained on Fox and Friends. "I had my hand on my gun. I had
it in my jacket pocket here. And I came around the corner like this." Zamudio
demonstrated how his shooting hand was wrapped around the weapon, poised to draw
and fire. As he rounded the corner, he saw a man holding a gun. "And that's who I at
first thought was the shooter," Zamudio recalled. "I told him to 'Drop it, drop it!'"
But the man with the gun wasn't the shooter. He had wrested the gun away from the
shooter. "Had you shot that guy, it would have been a big, fat mess,"



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It's hard to call back a tank round [from a mile away] once it's been fired or a bomb dropped from high above. Most were not killed by a rifle.
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Most police response times are even longer that you state Henry. How long was the wait before they entered the Orlando nite club. Hostage situations take a lot longer. One well placed bullet could have saved many lives.


Exactly, it amazing some actually don't believe in the right to self defense, God forbid box is ever in that situation, but if he ever is I bet his attitude would change quick if he was hiding under a desk and saw the shooters feet approaching his location.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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In the first Gulf War, more US troops were killed by "Friendly Fire" (a good guy with a gun) than were
killed by the enemy.
If professionals with years  of experience and training with guns, end up in a "friendly fire" shooting,
what do you think would happen in a group of inexperienced, untrained group of "Good Guy's With Guns"?



First why do you believe most gun owners are inexperience or untrained, that is not the case. 2nd why would you want to eliminate the chance of self defense to the victims, by doing so you are guaranteeing a higher death count, even if the victim is shot by friendly fire his intentions were just to save his and others lives, and that even if a casualty would be a heroic act. At least he/she had some fighting chance.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Exactly, it amazing some actually don't believe in the right to self defense, God forbid box is ever in that situation, but if he ever is I bet his attitude would change quick if he was hiding under a desk and saw the shooters feet approaching his location.

I have to keep reminding Henry, I am a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment, and a strong supporter
of good gun laws.
If the "armed intruder" you mention was approaching my location, I would do everything I could to
dissuade him... before I shot him.   I would prefer not to shoot, but if that were my only choice I
would take it.  
At what point I would shoot depends on the situation.  I know one thing... if he were carrying one of
your assault rifles... I would shoot much sooner than if he were carrying a knife, a bolt action .22
or a pistol.
If it weren't for the NRA and their flunkies, I wouldn't have to be concerned with that intruder
carrying an assault rifle.  But... you know how it is... Armed Intruders Have Their 2nd Amendment
Rights!




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There are pistols that you should fear more than an AR or AK like the Mac 10 or the UZI Pro pistols in 9mm.
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There are pistols that you should fear more than an AR or AK like the Mac 10 or the UZI Pro pistols in 9mm.

And none of them have a place on US Streets.



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You have a right to your opinion and others who don't feel the same way have a right to their opinion.
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You have a right to your opinion and others who don't feel the same way have a right to their opinion.

That's true.  And the vast majority of Americans agree at least to some degree with
my opinion on guns.


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That's true.  And the vast majority of Americans agree at least to some degree with
my opinion on guns.


If the "vast majority" agreed with you, then the mid term elections would have resulted in a landslide election for Democrats and Congress would have passed your gun restriction legislation.  Quite the opposite happened, the gun control democrats were wiped up, and people are buying guns in record numbers.


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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Supreme Court on The Second Amendment Domestic Violence.



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NRA to run $2 million Benghazi-themed ad campaign for Trump

The National Rifle Association’s political arm is launching its first ad campaign of the
2016 presidential race, with a survivor of the terror attack in Benghazi urging viewers
to vote for Donald Trump.


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Gov. Jerry Brown signed six stringent gun-control measures Friday that will require
people to turn in high-capacity magazines and mandate background checks for
ammunition sales, as California Democrats seek to strengthen gun laws that are
already among the strictest in the nation.


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