Quoted from joebxr

and 45 Republicans are trying to take away the Democratic process
and rule how this country does business abroad. In actuality, 45
Republicans just made America look STUPID that something like this could happen.
My friends in Europe tell me they don't understand how this is allowed.

Quoted from CICERO

Oh...It's no longer the democratic process and rule how the country does business?  Since it appears you concede that Democrat senators held their own negotiations with foreign leaders at the same time a president was in negotiations.   Now it's about how the senators explained to Iran how constitutionally that Congress is the body that has to vote on any deal that the Obama administration reaches or the Obama deal non-binding and can change from president to president?

I don't think the Ayatollah's need to be schooled on how the Federal Government works, and how legally binding deals go through Congress.  Obama is proposing a deal that extends over the course of 10 years.  How can he offer a 10 year deal if not passed by Congress?  Do you think the Ayatollah's went into the negotiations without knowing that?

BTW...John Kerry negotiating with Ortega is the example.  The Senate democrats threatened to not pass Reagan's aid package his administration negotiated, so Senator Kerry flew to Nicaragua and had direct negotiations with Ortega.  What was the purpose of Kerry negotiating with Ortega if not to demonstrate President Reagan's negotiations are useless and that Ortega can negotiate directly with senators, since the terms of the agreement have to be passed through the senate?

Quoted from joebxr

Like I thought...all BS and no substance.
I didn't concede anything. You can't rationalize the difference and I'm not about
to help you learn. It's still about the Democratic process, but you're dead between
the ears and can't understand.

So how about answering my question with direct facts...come on Sissy show us
facts instead of your usual twist of direction...WAITING!!!

Quoted from CICERO

Like I thought.  Incapable of processing the direct facts of Kerry negotiating with Ortega.(not in a letter, but rather face to face) Can't help you if you refuse to acknowledge that fact.

I get your logic, Senator Kerry's negotiations with Ortega was the democratic process, republican negotiation with an open letter to the Ayatollah is not.  Makes perfect sense, since Kerry is a "democrat" then it mean Senate democrats can negotiate with foreign leaders and still be considered the "democratic process".  The republican senators just need to switch parties to join the democratic process that demorat senators enjoy when undermining Republican president negotiations.

Quoted from joebxr

Like I thought. Incapable of processing factual information and providing a
supporting factual answer. You're damn good at dancing around and
a total failure at proving PROOF....look up the word....PROOF! So Sissy,
are you gonna continue to dance around, abandon the topic (like you
always do when challenged to provide facts), or are you going to surprise
us an ANSWER THE QUESTION WITH FACTUAL PROOF????
My guess is abandonment since you CAN'T PROVIDE FACTUAL PROOF!!!!!

Quoted from CICERO

Lol...keep movin the goal posts.  Typical JOEY B...when proven wrong again, change your argument.  Lmao...It was the "democratic process" you were concerned about.  Until you were given FACTUAL PROOF Senator John Kerry subverted your sacred "democratic process".  WHAT A CLOWN YOU ARE.

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CONGRESS; LETTER TO NICARAGUA: 'DEAR COMANDANTE'
By STEVEN V. ROBERTS
Published: April 20, 1984

WASHINGTON, April 19— Members of Congress are always writing ''Dear Colleague'' letters to other members, promoting a bill or noting an event. Now 10 Democratic lawmakers have written a ''Dear Comandante'' letter that is kicking up a fuss on Capitol Hill.

The letter is addressed to Daniel Ortega Saavedra, the coordinator of the junta that rules Nicaragua. In it, the lawmakers commend his Government ''for taking steps to open up the political process in your country'' and urge greater efforts toward freer and more open elections.

'At Best Unwise'

After the letter came to light in a Congressional debate on Nicaragua last week, Representative Newt Gingrich, Republican of Georgia, flew into a letter-writing frenzy of his own. Mr. Gingrich is circulating the ''Dear Comandante'' missive to reporters around town, accompanied by a statement that accuses the authors of undercutting the Administration's foreign policy.

''This letter,'' Mr. Gingrich wrote, ''clearly violates the constitutional separation of powers. It's at best unwise, and at worst illegal.'' Representative Stephen J. Solarz, Democrat of Brooklyn, who helped draft the letter to Mr. Ortega, calls Representative Gingrich's attack ''frankly ludicrous.''

The whole matter, Mr. Solarz said, has become ''the biggest mountain out of the smallest molehill.''

Indeed, Mr. Solarz said, the ''incredible irony'' about the whole incident is that the 10 authors were asked to send the letter by Alphonso Robello, whom the Congressman describes as a leader in one of the paramilitary groups now battling the Sandinista leadership in Managua.

''The whole thrust of the letter is to encourage the Government of Nicaragua to hold free and fair elections,'' the Brooklyn Democrat said. ''Presumably, that's what Newt Gingrich and the Reagan Administration is trying to do themselves.''

The 10 authors include Jim Wright of Texas, the majority leader; Edward P. Boland of Massachusetts, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, and other senior Democrats in the foreign policy field. The letter tells Mr. Ortega that it was written ''in a spirit of hopefulness and goodwill'' and voices regret that relations between Nicaragua and Washington are not better.

The writers stress that they all oppose further money for rebel campaigns against the Sandinista Government. In a veiled reference to the Reagan Administration, the letter says that if the Sandinistas do hold genuine elections, those who are ''supporting violence'' against the Nicaraguan leaders would have ''far greater difficulty winning support for their policies than they do today.''

In his retort, Representative Gingrich argues that the letter writers ''step across the boundary from opposition to a policy, to undercutting that policy.''

He also notes that the members of Congress offer to discuss these issues with Mr. Ortega and the junta. In Mr. Gingrich's view, ''This clearly violates the executive branch's exclusive prerogative of negotiating with a foreign government.''

Mr. Solarz concedes that the letter to Mr. Ortega took a distinctly sympathetic tone. But he said, ''You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.''

As for the charge that such a letter is unusual and inappropriate, Mr. Solarz said members of Congress write to heads of state all the time, usually to protest human rights violations.

Besides, he added, ''our rights to oppose foreign policy are protected by the Constitution and our responsibility as members of Congress.''

Quoted from CICERO

Read it and weep "Dear Comandante" joey. Once again, sorry to disrupt your ignorant bliss.

Quoted from joebxr

On and on and on and on...round and round we go and not one fact to present yet!
Nothing you have said is the same as the issue/topic! Are you really that thick you can't see that???]

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*snip* Ms. Pelosi and her party arrived on Tuesday and met with Syrian officials including Walid al-Moallem, the foreign minister, and Faruq al-Shara, the vice president. She also toured the old section of the capital on Tuesday, visiting the centuries-old Ommayad Mosque and interacting with ordinary Syrians at the mosque and at a market.

In Damascus, many welcomed Ms. Pelosi’s arrival on Tuesday as a breakthrough.

“There is a feeling now that change is going on in American policy — even if it’s being led by the opposition,” said Ziad Haider, Damascus bureau chief for Al Safir, a leftist Lebanese daily.

Syrian officials are increasingly betting on improved relations with American Democrats, whom they expect to lead the United States in coming years, Mr. Haider said. “Pelosi’s approach represents a more practical policy; the administration’s policy over the last few years has been based on demands and ideology,” he said.
*/snip*

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WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report) – A disturbed Canadian man wants to try to get into the
White House, according to reports.

The man, who was born in Calgary before drifting to Texas, has been spotted in Washington,
D.C. in recent years exhibiting erratic behavior, sources said.

In 2013, he gained entry to the United States Senate and was heard quoting incoherently from
a children’s book before he was finally subdued.

More recently, he was heard ranting about a plan to dismantle large components of the federal
government, such as the Internal Revenue Service and the nation’s health-care program.

Despite a record of such bizarre episodes and unhinged utterances, observers expressed little
concern about his plans to get into the White House, calling them “delusional.”

Quoted from Box A Rox

Ted Cruz Signs Up For Obamacare

The Right's strongest opponent of ObamaCare, is signing up for OBAMACARE!
(It sure is a good thing that the 54 times he voted to abolish ObamaCare, it didn't pass)

Ted Cruz had to sign up for Obamacare using the federal exchange as a Texas resident.
His wife lost her employer paid health care insurance, so poor Teddy was going to be
uninsured... But ObamaCare saved his butt!