Benny, John Mertz knows the problems in the Republican Party because he created most of them! Tom is NOT the problem. John Mertz is destroying the party and you want to put him in charge? Looks like you are trying to put the nail in the coffin for Republicans in Schenectady...
Oh geeze, don't say "death" or "coffin" around Benny ...
The NNTP no longer needs to "twist arms". It's all sitting from them on a silver platter. All fiscal CONS must return under one umbrella. The REPS must return to fiscal conservatism and pro-life roots. Don't forget that half the NNTP candidates are REPS. They only ran separately because of the total stupidity.
John Mertz would be a great new REP County Chair. He knows the problems and can hit the ground running. Can't afford another 6 years of wandering in the wilderness.
If the County Republican Chair resigns, you think all of a sudden it's a return to fiscal conservatism?
Brad described the NNTP best, and I'm not sure if he meant it as a label for the NNTP - Fiscal conservatism, social libertarianism. The NNTP is not focused on Big Government programs and regulations, controlling peoples lives, telling people what they can and cannot do, legislating BPA bans or texting bans. High taxes are the crux of all problems in this county and statewide. The problem we have is, both parties have been controlled by those very people who benefit and profit from tax dollars. Whether it be directly; state worker, work for the legislature, county worker, city worker, town worker, school teacher, police officer, firefighter. Or indirectly like the select preferred businesses(Galesi) through IDA Board PILOT breaks, or Metroplex funding. The residents in the middle who benefit from neither are the ones who are getting screwed. We just get our property and school tax bills with 8%- 10% increases and are told by our elected officials that was the best they could do. "State Mandates" And those are the people I feel the NNTP are representing.
From the little I know about John Mertz, he has a conservative ideology. But I also know where his bread is buttered, and he has bosses he answers to. The Republican Party is much larger than Schenectady County.
Benny, John Mertz knows the problems in the Republican Party because he created most of them! Tom is NOT the problem. John Mertz is destroying the party and you want to put him in charge? Looks like you are trying to put the nail in the coffin for Republicans in Schenectady...
If you have 'really' done your homework....why don't you share with the rest of us.
The rep party is just as corrupt and as much of a power grab party just like the dems and cons. That is what made the NNTP so refreshing to the rest of us. They shared the same ideology and concerns as the average hardworking, taxpaying Joe's did. This country is going to hell in a hand basket very quickly. These NNTP guys saw and have a vision BEYOND little old rotterdam.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
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Ok all you reps out there. Tom needs to go. His lack of leadership is almost becoming legend. CUT HIM LOOSE. I was at the State of the State andRepublicans there were scratching their heads wondering why TB has not resigned as of yet. However none of them offered Mertz as the next chair. So even though some of us think Mertz could do it, I didn't get that vibe today while at the Capitol. The Governor's speech was so short that there wasn't much time to hang around and schmooz. Perhaps I could have learned more had I stayed there longer.
It's not his fault? It's ALWAYS someone else's fault-The NNTP, John Mertz, The REP rank and file, Holly, the press, town chairs, Ang, etc, etc. Wake up and smell the espresso.
If the Reps think they can grab the coat tails of the NNTP and shoot the moon they are sadly mistaken.......and as for any candidate that discusses melding them,,,,SEE YA.....and the ethics issues between both parties is stupid...the LWV/mallozzis etc........has anyone seen my silver hammer...???
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Bumble, I agree that the ideology that the NNTP pretended to stand for is shared by many. But if you believe the NNTP is anything but John Mertz and his Assembly buddies trying to destroy the Republican party because of personal vendettas, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you! He interfered with peoples' personal lives, he threatened to attack if not injure/kill others, he is not standing up for anything other than his own self interest.
Alleykat, obviously those in Albany want TB out: They staffed the NNTP campaigns and got all their signatures. Don't you think it's telling that the people that obtained the signatures for the NNTP, (which was bent on destroying Tom) are the ones saying Tom needs to go? Perhaps those aren't the best source of information, just a thought...
Brian McGarry and I obtained the vast majority of signatures. There were also many of my family members and friends of Brian's, Michael's and mine who collected many signatures. My 75 year old mother collected most of the signatures in Duanesburg on my behalf. We also had support from several organizations that comprise the Liberty Council.
IF, there was any involvement by the Assembly is was insignificant at best. Further, the money came primarily from the efforts of Brian and me holding fundraisers. The campaign contributions were from friends, family, and individuals, some of who post to and/or read this board.
As for the Brooklyn bridge that you're trying to sell us all, I'm not buying it. Your posts are non-factual. The statements that you make are attempts to discredit the efforts of those who supported our campaigns.
If anyone was making threats, it was those who were entrenched in the local Republican party committee who worked to control our efforts and visibility by having candidates' livelihoods threatened. You don't play nice. Your tactics are one reason that your candidates lost the recent elections. Campaigns need to return to a discussion of the issues and candidates records. There is no room for the politics of personal destruction. Yet, you folks continue to try as if that is all that you have.
The mistruths that you spread on this board speak to the character of those who we were and are opposing. It is unfortunate that you continue to want to be "part of the problem". The Republican party cannot rebuild and strengthen until those who deny the real cause of its downfall can be honest with themselves and others. Meanwhile, the No New Tax Party will continue to strengthen, attract candidates for the 2010 and 2011 elections, and expand its influence throughout and outside of Schenectady County.
I will not engage with you further in discussions on this board. It is apparent that you can't be true to yourself or others. You can continue to post mistruths. But, many on this board know the facts ... they were there and part of or supporters of the movement.
If you are a Republican who sits on the town or county committee, which I presume that you are, and are making accusations regarding the role of the RACC, have you filed a complaint with them? Have you confronted those who you accuse of wrongdoing?
I suspect not. Because, again, there is no validity to your assertions. Escalating would only earn you a stearn reprimand and further discredit you.
If you are interested in the future of the Republican party, you should be working to unify those who embrace conservative principles, not trying to alienate the 17-18% of Rotterdam voters who supported the No New Tax Party candidates with your nonsense.
Alleykat, obviously those in Albany want TB out: They staffed the NNTP campaigns and got all their signatures. Don't you think it's telling that the people that obtained the signatures for the NNTP, (which was bent on destroying Tom) are the ones saying Tom needs to go? Perhaps those aren't the best source of information, just a thought...
TB has done such a good job, he should stay... LOL TB should stay, he's the best thing to ever happen to the Schdy County Dem's.
Bumble, I agree that the ideology that the NNTP pretended to stand for is shared by many. But if you believe the NNTP is anything but John Mertz and his Assembly buddies trying to destroy the Republican party because of personal vendettas, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you! He interfered with peoples' personal lives, he threatened to attack if not injure/kill others, he is not standing up for anything other than his own self interest.
Tom ~ there is part of me that does feel sorry for you. I sat back quietly at committee meetings and tried to believe what you and Jerry were telling us ~ then you decided to throw out anyone who you and Jerry felt were not going to hand in our proxies to you ~ shame, shame, shame.
I've heard both sides of the stories ~ no doubt Mertz can be very difficult to deal with ~ to your point he had given us reason to question his aggressive behavior ~ but, after all this time, I have yet to find a reason to question his committment to the GOP or his NNTP buddies.
Go back and read my posts ~ if anyone made this personal it seems to me it was you and Jerry. Everyone knows Mertz isn't a "do as your told" individual ~ why would you try to dictate how he was to do his job on the town board anyways? Then, when he didn't do as he was told and go away quietly ~ you and Jerry tried your best to get the guy fired from his job ~ A REPUBLICAN WHO YOU BROUGHT IN ~ shame, shame, shame.
As for standing up for something ~ as always, let's go to the record ~ two terms on the town board should provide enough of a record to determine who the voice of the people was on the town board.
Right now the only problem I have with Mertz is that he doesn't like dogs. If the Rep party decides to make him the leader ~ fine. If not ~ I hope he cares enough about the party to work with whoever takes over.
Tom ~ as for you ~ you were really good a few years back. You had a great team for Rotterdam ~ then you handed it off to Jerry ~ gave him too much control ~ and his team got wiped out. You never should have went along with Jerry ~ he never had your love of the party.
Tom ~ one last thing ~ your reasons for not working with the NNTP are personal (after all ~ you rejected three of the four candidates) ~ not what's best for the party ~ that's why you'll be asked to resign.
Brad ~ everyone knows it was the four of you who worked hard for the NNTP ~ Tom just needs an excuse ~ problem is that nobody likes a self-proclaimed leader who refuses to take responsiblity when things go wrong.
Right on Brad, I am a registered Rep who helped the NNTP and attended a fund raiser for the first time in my life because I was sick and tired of what had become of the Rep Party. The Rep Party was destroyed from the inside by the people who were running it so if the shoe fits wear it and correct the mistakes that were made that lead to the parties ultimate defeat.
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The NNTP no longer needs to "twist arms". It's all sitting from them on a silver platter. All fiscal CONS must return under one umbrella. The REPS must return to fiscal conservatism and pro-life roots. Don't forget that half the NNTP candidates are REPS. They only ran separately because of the total stupidity.
