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Quoted from Smoking Bananas
what u are seeing is history repeat itself. During FDR's years, the right wing of the GOP party said the same thing about the country going into the toilet, that we were headed toward communism. blah, blah blah.... the no new tax party and the tea party are of the same stamp --- the think we are headed toward socialism, which is the worst of all worlds. however. the worst of all worlds, for those who forget, were the bush years.


I must disagree.  Those in the Tea Party movement recognize that BOTH parties are moving the country into a direction of centralized control of government.  You can attach whatever "ism" you want to attach to it.  The fact remains that people from BOTH ends of the political spectrum want less government control, and more representation.  Hence "Tea Party".  Ya know the whole "no taxation, without representation".  

Both parties are giving the Country away to the highest bidder.  Billions of dollars in corporate welfare to bailout rich bankers.  Trillions of dollars to insurance companies and drug companies to centrally control healthcare.  Billions of dollars in social welfare bureaucracy and public unions.  As we learned "Change" just means that the new party in control can take our money and pay back those who funded their campaigns.  All the same institutions that keep funding the parties with millions and millions of dollars, and keeping them in power.  The Tea Party movements power is derived from those in the movement, not how much financial clout they have.  

Despite how the media portrays the Tea Party, with derogatory remarks like "tea baggers", this movement isn't a fringe "right wing" movement.  This is a centrist to maybe center right movement that continues to pick up steam.


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The whole tea party thing is cute and all but how about we get down to some facts. The tea partyers want us all to believe that they are such wonderful individuals with the best interest of the public at heart, but what they aren't publicizing is the fact that the tea parties are funded by known Republican groups like Americans for Prosperity and Freedom Works. So I guess the NNTP is just like the tea party movement: tea party is funded by lobbyists and NNTP is funded by the Assembly Republicans. Change we can believe in!
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So the Republican Party is funding and organizing a movement that hurts their party the most?  Hmmmmm... Interesting perspective.  Doesn't make much sense.


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That is because you don't know how power hungry these state politicians are to control local parties for fund raising purposes.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Let me say this in deference to Senders...'FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!"


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Good point, GB...they will go to all lengths!
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Follow the money.  I did.  If we are talking about the NNTP, most of the money came from the candidates themselves, their family, and their supporters.  No local businesses or unions made large dollar contributions to these campaigns that I'm aware of.  If you look at the Democrat or Republican donor list, it is littered with large business and union contributions.  So I do follow the money.


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Quoted from GrahamBonnet
That is because you don't know how power hungry these state politicians are to control local parties for fund raising purposes.


More proof(by somebody I assume is within the party structure) why there continues to be this movement away from the two party system.  MONEY AND CONTROL FOR THE PARTY.


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That is the beauty of this tea party movement. It isn't about 'party' as it is about a 'qualified candidate' with a conservative ideology and a desire for small government.

Something the reps and cons have failed at in the last decade. We won't include the lib. dems, cause we all know that they are all forbig government and tax and spend!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Quoted from GrahamBonnet
Let me say this in deference to Senders...'FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!"


CHA---CHING!! And certainly not to the deference to Senders but to history and human nature....so.....in deference to those facts
where do we go from here......certainly not to the usual steak and potatoes.....lets move on......and ANYONE....who has been elected
as a dem or rep should NOT be included in the choices......JMHO.....

....GET OFF MY BACK.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Quoted from GrahamBonnet
Let me say this in deference to Senders...'FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!"


What REP money? How about follow the red ink? REPS "leaders" met and laid an egg. NNTP patriots are still waiting for the advertised "olive branch". The same people behind this debacle still refuse demand a head on a platter.

     10 more years of Howdy Doody BT? Joking right? What Tedisco needs is a Tea Party challenger not just Sue Savage.
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I don't believe that the NNTP candidates are sitting around waiting for an olive branch from any one or any party. They were focused and determined to be the voice of the people and they still are.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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green lantern you are absolutely right about  the NNTP people not really being as purely conservative as they claim to be. Well at least Mert isn't.  Would someone who claims to be the protector of tax money  really have given Hamilton such a lucrative contract? Hamilton is a good guy and he does a good job but compared to other agencies it seems like he is paid more than the going rate. Mertz in his role as police commissioner pretty much had carte blanche to negotiate the contract. Where was the fiscal conservativism then? He's only using it now for his personal benefit! But the rest of you can keep believing he's there for us...
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C'mon silly, you know the police commission folded well before the contract negotiations.  As a matter of fact, if you read any article in the Gazette on that topic, Mr. Tommasone was the person who answered any questions regarding the negotiations.  Geez, nothin like rewriting history.


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Quoted from black spidey
green lantern you are absolutely right about  the NNTP people not really being as purely conservative as they claim to be. Well at least Mert isn't.  Would someone who claims to be the protector of tax money  really have given Hamilton such a lucrative contract? Hamilton is a good guy and he does a good job but compared to other agencies it seems like he is paid more than the going rate. Mertz in his role as police commissioner pretty much had carte blanche to negotiate the contract. Where was the fiscal conservativism then? He's only using it now for his personal benefit! But the rest of you can keep believing he's there for us...


Just in case you forgot.... ..... It was after the 'Collins retirement' fiasco that flamed the town residents. The residents were appaulled at the lucrative pay and benefits going to their police force. The residents were looking for someone...any one who would listen to their concerns. The only one that would listen to the taxpayers was mertzie. And I'm sure you know the rest of the story......the residents/taxpayers lost!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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