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Kevin March
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http://www.nypost.com/seven/05.....ennedy_wa_112232.htm

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HILLARY RAISES ASSASSINATION ISSUE
DEFENDS LONG-RUNNING CAMPAIGN

By GEOFF EARLE

May 23, 2008 --

Hillary Clinton today brought up the assassination of Sen. Robert Kennedy while defending her decision to stay in the race against Barack Obama.

"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it," she said, dismissing calls to drop out.

Watch a video of the editorial board meeting here.http://www.argusleader.com/app.....er=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

Obama's camp immediately fired back.

"Sen. Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign," Obama campaign spokesman said in a statement.

Clinton made her comments at a meeting with the Sioux Falls Argus-Leader's editorial board while campaigning in South Dakota, where she complained that, "People have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa."

Obama, the first African-American to advance so far in the race for the White House, has faced threats, sources have said.

Robert Kennedy, the younger brother of President John F. Kennedy, was gunned down in 1968 after winning the California primary. He had been a hero on the left for his civil rights agenda and calls to end the war in Vietnam.

Barack Obama, who leads Clinton by nearly 200 delegates and has already secured a majority of pledged delegates, has been the subject of threats. Early in the campaign, the Secret Service gave him a security detail at the request of Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Illinois).

Clinton criticized an "urgency" to end the campaign prematurely, saying, "Historically, that makes no sense."

Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson defended the comments to The Post, "She was talking about the length of the race and using the '68 election as an example of how long the races in the past have gone -- she used her husband's race in the same vein."


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http://www.breitbart.tv/html/101403.html

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Hillary Clinton today brought up the assassination of Sen. Robert Kennedy while defending her decision to stay in the race against Barack Obama.

"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it," she said, dismissing calls to drop out.

Obama's camp immediately fired back.


http://www.nypost.com/seven/05.....ennedy_wa_112232.htm

Now she says "I'm sorry"
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D90RJR8G0&show_article=1
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This was not the first time she's said it. This from her interview with TIME Managing Editor Richard Stengel, published March 6:

    TIME: Can you envision a point at which--if the race stays this close--Democratic Party elders would step in and say, "This is now hurting the party and whoever will be the nominee in the fall"?


    CLINTON: No, I really can't. I think people have short memories. Primary contests used to last a lot longer. We all remember the great tragedy of Bobby Kennedy being assassinated in June in L.A. My husband didn't wrap up the nomination in 1992 until June. Having a primary contest go through June is nothing particularly unusual.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1719900,00.html

http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/05/hillarys_bizarre_rfk_comment.html
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Poor Hillary....she has had to apologize quite a few times in her campaign!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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And the problem with this one is that she can't "quit" from her campaign as everyone else who has screwed up has.


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Ex-congressman becomes Libertarian '08 candidate


Will Conservatives who feel disenchanted with Republican John McCain support a Republican turned Libertarian for President?  Ron Paul and Bob Barr seem to have gained support of many who find little difference between the candidates from the major parties.  Will Ron Paul leave the Republican Party to join Bob Barr on the Libertarian ticket?  

The remaining contenders are:

Democrat:  Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton
Republican:  John McCain and Ron Paul
Libertarian:  Bob Barr
Independence:  (?)
Constitution:  Chuck Baldwin
Unendorsed: Ralph Nader

Any predictions/thoughts re: the role that minor party candidates will play in this presidential election?
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I happened to watch the Libertarian Presidential Debate last night on CSPAN. The debate was between Bob Barr, Wayne Allyn Root, Mary Ruwart, Mike Gravel, Mike Jingozian, George Phillies,Steve Kubby. They did appeal to the conservativeness in ones that are seeking smaller government. But their stand on other issues were either weak or not in line with my ideology. They all were in favor of same sex marriage. They all were weak when discussing health care. And they all were very weak regarding foreign policies and the Iraq war.

They collectively delivered an ideology of freedom in every aspect of life. Free of any government guidelines for society which if allowed  could result in an archaic, antiquated, primitive society, in my opinion.

Although I feel that our present government is becoming suggestively suppressive and intrusive, I also feel that the Libertarian Party is swinging the pendulum too far in the other direction. So I guess I'm back to square one!
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Any predictions/thoughts re: the role that minor party candidates will play in this presidential election?
My thought is that those who would normally vote the republican line but are disenchanted with McCain or the party itself, may throw their support over to Bob Barr/Liberterian, which will only stenghthen the chances for a democratic win for the presidency. That's just my thought.
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I THINK the Libertarian Party was created in or around 1971. Ya know, around the hippie, anti-establishment, if it feels good do it, free sex, free love, free everything era. I believe their ideology was derived from that era.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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My personal feeling on third party candidates (or, better said, independent candidates, or those other than the ones running on the Republican or Democrat lines) is that they skew things in ways that are predictible.  If you look at past elections, you can see that if you have a third party candidate run that is either liberal or conservative, they take votes away from either the liberal (normally the Democratic) or conservative (normally the Republican) candidate.  Proof of this would be found in the 8 years that we went through with Bill Clinton due to a third party candidate (H. Ross Perot) running with an idea to some extent the same (or in the same line) as the Republican candidates.  Hence, 8 years of a Democrat president (which, by the way, wouldn't have been so bad if the Republicans who were voted in the house and senate at that time had been true conservatives themselves).


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My personal feeling on third party candidates (or, better said, independent candidates, or those other than the ones running on the Republican or Democrat lines) is that they skew things in ways that are predictible.  If you look at past elections, you can see that if you have a third party candidate run that is either liberal or conservative, they take votes away from either the liberal (normally the Democratic) or conservative (normally the Republican) candidate.  Proof of this would be found in the 8 years that we went through with Bill Clinton due to a third party candidate (H. Ross Perot) running with an idea to some extent the same (or in the same line) as the Republican candidates.  Hence, 8 years of a Democrat president (which, by the way, wouldn't have been so bad if the Republicans who were voted in the house and senate at that time had been true conservatives themselves).
I remember this as well. Ross Perot gave us Bill Clinton.

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Are there any true conservatives left any more Republican, Democrat, or any other party?
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Yes, but I'm afraid not in this upcoming national election for President, or for any of the local offices, as far as I can see.


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Libertarians may differ over particular issues, such as abortion and the United States' ongoing presence in Iraq.[49] The fact that libertarians are often diametrically opposed on so many issues lead to frequent condemnation of the philosophy by many, including those who hold similar thoughts. [50]

In the United States, libertarianism is claimed to be the philosophy advocated by Thomas Jefferson and several of the Founding Fathers.[51] Libertarianism is often being bundled with American conservatism, due to many conservatives wishing to retain the ideas of the Founders of the United States. On the other hand, many conservatives are uncomfortable with libertarianism,[52] while a few conservative Republicans, such as United States congressman Ron Paul, maintain viewpoints sympathetic to libertarian philosophy. Furthermore, the fortieth President of the United States, Ronald Reagan who said he believed that "the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism."[53] The term "libertarian" is used to describe adherents to libertarian principles, and not necessarily to members of Libertarian political parties, who are distinguished with a capital "L". As in all political parties, not all libertarians agree with the platform of any given Libertarian party. Libertarians who support limited government use the term "classical liberalism" almost interchangeably with the term "libertarianism."[54]

Polls, in 2007, indicate that 10 to 20 percent of voting-age Americans have libertarian views, with "libertarian" being understood as agreeing with conservatives on economic issues and with liberals on personal freedom.[55][56]


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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This was sent to me in an E-mail by one of my friends Snopes says it's a truthful statement what do you think???

                               Obama "explains"
                      

On Saturday 22 March 2008 18:48:04 -0400, 'LTG Bill Ginn' USAF retired, forwarded the following:

Hot on the heels of his explanation for why he no longer wears a flag pin,
presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama was forced to explain why he
doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.

According to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171,  
During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present
except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag
with the right hand over the heart.

"As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking
sides," Obama said. "There are a lot of people in the world to whom the
American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a
war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should  
be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song
'I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it."  

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this could possibly be our next president!!
I, for once, am speechless.  He has absolutely NO pride in this country!!!!!  
      This is outrageous!!!!  He doesn't deserve to be dogcatcher!!!  
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