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The government couldn't handle it.

Furthermore, the Catholic Church would NEVER give up its essential mandate to feed, clothe, etc the poor.

Finally, the world would survive .. actually thrive .. without the ACLU and the extremist Left.  The world could NOT survive without the Catholic Church.   ---- The Catholic Church will be around long after the nations of the earth are no more.


they can continually feed/clothe and help the poor, but they are NOT a business or a government entity. It should be obscure
and without government assistance/$$.....it's a very unholy alliance when a church accepts $$ from the government or even
says it will 'volunteer' to administer a government program.

Tax payers wouldn't be able to afford the government workers vs the church volunteers. Maybe it's time the public realizes
that. You see the use of 'god' within the government helping the poor is a bad thing the church did with their god.

The church can still meet their mandate to be as Jesus in a more personal way, just like he did....Jesus didn't need the
government and tried to tell the people that, but it was the golden calf/king issue again. He was showing true freedom
and the church has failed to do that. The church has made itself a 'god' on earth much like the golden calf and has failed
the mandate of 'render unto cesear, render unto god'. Not to mention the all time important pinion of

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If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Marriage licence= when your spouse dies you start collecting $
No marrieage licence ? You collect diddly squat

You are obviouly not married

Also do you notice only men talk about abortion ?


that was my point...I was expounding on the WHY we accept the marriage laws.....$$$$$$$$

yes, only men talk about abortion...if the conversation/responsibility is kept out of their court then they have no responsibility
and no pressure to be more responsible to seek male birth control because, those women have that all wrapped up.
until of course  some woman accuses them of being the daddy.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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that was my point...I was expounding on the WHY we accept the marriage laws.....$$$$$$$$

yes, only men talk about abortion...if the conversation/responsibility is kept out of their court then they have no responsibility
and no pressure to be more responsible to seek male birth control because, those women have that all wrapped up.
until of course  some woman accuses them of being the daddy.


What do you want to go back to the garden of eden before eve took a bite out of the appple ?

That was when the rules and regulations started.


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again i say.....take all the folks the catholic church is feeding, clothing, housing and dump them ALL on the steps of GOV ALMIGHTY'S house....THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!

and the catholic church should go back to giving out the bread and wine and pray the rosaries.


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Mat. 25:34 "Then I, the King, shall say to those at my right, 'Come, blessed of my
Father, into the Kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world.  Mat. 25:35 For
I was hungry and you fed me; I was thirsty and you gave me water; I was a stranger and
you invited me into your homes; Mat. 25:36 naked and you clothed me; sick and in prison,
and you visited me.' Mat. 25:37 "Then these righteous ones will reply, 'Sir, when did we ever
see you hungry and feed you? Or thirsty and give you anything to drink? Mat. 25:38 Or a
stranger, and help you? Or naked, and clothe you? Mat. 25:39 When did we ever see you
sick or in prison, and visit you?' Mat. 25:40 "And I, the King, will tell them, 'When you did
it to these my brothers you were doing it to me!' Mat. 25:41 Then I will turn to those on my
left and say, 'Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and
his demons. Mat. 25:42 For I was hungry and you wouldn't feed me; thirsty, and you wouldn't
give me anything to drink; Mat 25:43 a stranger, and you refused me hospitality; naked, and
you wouldn't clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn't visit me.' Mat. 25:44 "Then they
will reply, 'Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or
in prison, and not help you?' Mat 25:45 "And I will answer, 'When you refused to help the
least of these my brothers, you were refusing help to me.' Mat. 25:46 "And they shall go away
into eternal punishment; but the righteous into everlasting life."




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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If i were the catholic church, and the aclu was on my tail....i'd turn over the hungry, poor, sick to the CHURCH OF GOV ALMIGHTY. But let us not forget...that the catholic church has no one to blame but themselves the day they started accepting monies from GOV ALMIGHTY. Catholic Charities willing receives Caesar's GOV ALMIGHTY'S money.

So suggest to the Catholic Church, that they stop accepting ALL government funding.


The Church provides services so much more efficiently than the government.  So I suggest that we shut down the IRS, and everyone pay a 10% tithe to the Church and let the Church run everything.

Catholic Charities and other Catholic agencies do a much better job with the $ provided from ALL sources.  The Federal government should go back to its basic mission --- foreign policy, defense, treasury and  money -system and justice/judiciary.


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The Church provides services so much more efficiently than the government.  So I suggest that we shut down the IRS, and everyone pay a 10% tithe to the Church and let the Church run everything.

Catholic Charities and other Catholic agencies do a much better job with the $ provided from ALL sources.  The Federal government should go back to its basic mission --- foreign policy, defense, treasury and  money -system and justice/judiciary.


yeah,,,,like the church can do it.....let me just say CRUSADES.....DUH!!!!!!!

your bus is leaving without you


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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when did I ever see a man take responsibility for birth control or an abortion.....hahahahahahahahaha

get  back on your bus and go forth and do good


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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when did I ever see a man take responsibility for birth control or an abortion.....hahahahahahahahaha

get  back on your bus and go forth and do good


Senders is jealous because he/she always had to ride the 'little bus'.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Senders is jealous because he/she always had to ride the 'little bus'.


oh my,,,well,,,that's offensive coming from someone so 'progressive'.....you white old man from old school  


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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The Church provides services so much more efficiently than the government.  So I suggest that we shut down the IRS, and everyone pay a 10% tithe to the Church and let the Church run everything.

Catholic Charities and other Catholic agencies do a much better job with the $ provided from ALL sources.  The Federal government should go back to its basic mission --- foreign policy, defense, treasury and  money -system and justice/judiciary.


you are missing my point......I never said catholic charities didn't do a good job.....my point was, they are doing it with Caeser's GOV ALMIGHTY'S money!! So when the aclu files suit against catholic charities/church regarding not allowing abortions to the illegals.....they have the right to since they ARE receiving Caeser's GOV ALMIGHTY'S MONEY!!!

So the way I see it, the catholic church has one of two choices.....
Either don't take Caeser's GOV ALMIGHTY'S money...or.....take the money and 'do what they say'.

You can only serve one master.


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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  The Federal government should go back to its basic mission --- foreign policy, defense, treasury and  money -system and justice/judiciary.




And don't forget, give loans  to your beloved McCarthy so he can give that money to his political crony billionaire Galesi, and then make the taxpayer families with incomes no more than $40,000 incomes to pay back the loan.

Right?


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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And don't forget, give loans  to your beloved McCarthy so he can give that money to his political crony billionaire Galesi, and then make the taxpayer families with incomes no more than $40,000 incomes to pay back the loan.

Right?


you are missing the point mc1...again.......we are talking about the CATHOLIC CHURCH taking Caeser's GOV ALMIGHTY'S money which makes the CATHOLIC CHURCH beholden to Caeser GOV ALMIGHTY.



When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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