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A survey by the University of Maryland’s Program for Public Consultation finds that Americans
narrowly support the deal, with 52 percent wanting Congress to approve it and 47 percent
wanting the pact rejected.

Washington Post

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IT would appear that Tbird has the right poll, he's just working with outdated material.
THE FINAL POLL, unlike Tbirds post shows:

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From the poll, “Panelists were finally asked whether they would recommend that
their Members of Congress approve of the deal. Those that did not recommend approval
were offered other options. Ultimately 55% recommended approval,
including 72% of Democrats,
61% of Independents
and 33% of Republicans."

But don't take my word for it... read the poll yourself:
http://vop.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Assessing_the_Iran_Deal_Report.pdf


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IT would appear that Tbird has the right poll, he's just working with outdated material.
THE FINAL POLL, unlike Tbirds post shows:



Still doesn't negate the FACT that most others polls want a reject of the deal, including a more recent Quinnipiac poll which rejects it at 55% (Quinnipiac 8/20-8/25, U of M 8/17-8/20)


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most people don't even understand it OR the set up poll questions......

ever take a statistic class? yeah....manipulation by poll.....

a canary in a coal mine would do a better job


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Still doesn't negate the FACT that most others polls want a reject of the deal, including a more recent Quinnipiac poll which rejects it at 55% (Quinnipiac 8/20-8/25, U of M 8/17-8/20)


Polling on this issue is all over the place with some polls showing "not enough info" or
"don't know enough" or "unsure" as a major answer.

http://www.pollingreport.com/iran.htm


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Former Secretary of State Colin Powell told NBC News he supported the nuclear agreement with
Iran, calling the various planks Iranian leaders accepted “remarkable” and dismissing critics’
concerns over its implementation.

Said Powell: “It’s a pretty good deal.”

Powell added that critics are “forgetting the reality that [Iranian leaders] have been on a
superhighway, for the last 10 years, to create a nuclear weapon or a nuclear weapons program,
with no speed limit.”


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Chris Wallace Dazes Cheney: Iran's Centrifuges 'Went From 0 To 5,000' While You Were VP



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Gohmert vows to quit Congress and await "nuclear Holocaust"
if Iran deal passes



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I'm not sure I understand why we need to make any 'deal'....we need to leave there, it's NOT our country, it's NOT our land,
it's NOT our oil, they are NOT our customs etc etc etc.........


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MARK LEVIN: DEMOCRATS ‘WILL HAVE BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS’ FOR SUPPORTING IRAN DEAL
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Nationally-renowned author and Conservative talk show host Mark Levin sent a defiant message to GOP leadership Wednesday afternoon at the Stop Iran rally at Capitol Hill.

In his fiery speech, Levin demanded they do more to stop the deal. He also took aim at Democrat leadership in both the legislative branch and the White House, suggesting that the Iran deal shows how far to the left the Democratic Party has fallen.

“Never before has a President of the United States. Never before has a political party consented to funding and arming the enemy. Never before has a President entered into agreements with a terrorist regime that holds American hostages; that has killed and maimed thousands of American soldiers, and that seeks nuclear weapons and ICBMs (Inter-Continental Ballistic Missiles)  to attack his own country,” said Levin.

“Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlain look like George S. Patton,” the former Reagan staffer added.

Levin highlighted the dangers involved if the deal were to be implemented in Congress.

“This phony deal allows the Iranian terrorist regime to inspect its own nuclear sites; to continue uranium enrichment; to build advanced centrifuges; to perfect their ICBMS; to spend $150 billion dollars on terrorism, and in the end, to secure nuclear warheads,” he said.

He then had some choice words for the Democratic Party.

“As one Democrat after another… supports this surrender, It’s clear that the Democrats no longer represent the party of Harry Truman and John F. Kennedy. It’s now the Democrat Party of Bill Ayers, Saul Alinsky and Barack Obama,” said the nationally-syndicated conservative talk radio host.

“The Democrat Party will have blood on their hands as a result of this deal for the rest of time. And let me be clear, this deal sows the seeds of war.”http://www.breitbart.com/big-g.....upporting-iran-deal/


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MARK LEVIN: DEMOCRATS ‘WILL HAVE BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS’ FOR
SUPPORTING IRAN DEAL

No matter how hard he tries, Bumbler can't distance himself from Breitbart or Right Winger BS!

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In 2001 the American Conservative Union awarded Levin its Ronald Reagan Award.
Levin accepted the inaugural Citizens United Andrew Breitbart Defender of the First Amendment Award in 2013.



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The Nobel Peace Prize 1994
Yasser Arafat, Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Rabin

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Yasser Arafat - Biographical
Mohammed Abdel-Raouf Arafat As Qudwa al-Hussaeini was born on 24 August 1929 in Cairo**, his father a textile merchant who was a Palestinian with some Egyptian ancestry, his mother from an old Palestinian family in Jerusalem. She died when Yasir, as he was called, was five years old, and he was sent to live with his maternal uncle in Jerusalem, the capital of the British Mandate of Palestine. He has revealed little about his childhood, but one of his earliest memories is of British soldiers breaking into his uncle's house after midnight, beating members of the family and smashing furniture.

After four years in Jerusalem, his father brought him back to Cairo, where an older sister took care of him and his siblings. Arafat never mentions his father, who was not close to his children. Arafat did not attend his father's funeral in 1952.

In Cairo, before he was seventeen Arafat was smuggling arms to Palestine to be used against the British and the Jews. At nineteen, during the war between the Jews and the Arab states, Arafat left his studies at the University of Faud I (later Cairo University) to fight against the Jews in the Gaza area. The defeat of the Arabs and the establishment of the state of Israel left him in such despair that he applied for a visa to study at the University of Texas. Recovering his spirits and retaining his dream of an independent Palestinian homeland, he returned to Faud University to major in engineering but spent most of his time as leader of the Palestinian students.

He did manage to get his degree in 1956, worked briefly in Egypt, then resettled in Kuwait, first being employed in the department of public works, next successfully running his own contracting firm. He spent all his spare time in political activities, to which he contributed most of the profits. In 1958 he and his friends founded Al-Fatah, an underground network of secret cells, which in 1959 began to publish a magazine advocating armed struggle against Israel. At the end of 1964 Arafat left Kuwait to become a full-time revolutionary, organising Fatah raids into Israel from Jordan.

It was also in 1964 that the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) was established, under the sponsorship of the Arab League, bringing together a number of groups all working to free Palestine for the Palestinians. The Arab states favoured a more conciliatory policy than Fatah's, but after their defeat by Israel in the 1967 Six-Day War, Fatah emerged from the underground as the most powerful and best organised of the groups making up the PLO, took over that organisation in 1969 when Arafat became the chairman of the PLO executive committee. The PLO was no longer to be something of a puppet organisation of the Arab states, wanting to keep the Palestinians quiet, but an independent nationalist organisation, based in Jordan.

Arafat developed the PLO into a state within the state of Jordan with its own military forces. King Hussein of Jordan, disturbed by its guerrilla attacks on Israel and other violent methods, eventually expelled the PLO from his country. Arafat sought to build a similar organisation in Lebanon, but this time was driven out by an Israeli military invasion. He kept the organization alive, however, by moving its headquarters to Tunis. He was a survivor himself, escaping death in an airplane crash, surviving any assassination attempts by Israeli intelligence agencies, and recovering from a serious stroke.

His life was one of constant travel, moving from country to country to promote the Palestinian cause, always keeping his movements secret, as he did any details about his private life. Even his marriage to Suha Tawil, a Palestinian half his age, was kept secret for some fifteen months. She had already begun significant humanitarian activities at home, especially for disabled children, but the prominent part she took in the public events in Oslo was a surprise for many Arafat-watchers. Since then, their daughter, Zahwa, named after Arafat's mother, has been born.

The period after the expulsion from Lebanon was a low time for Arafat and the PLO. Then the intifada (shaking) protest movement strengthened Arafat by directing world attention to the difficult plight of the Palestinians. In 1988 came a change of policy. In a speech at a special United Nations session held in Geneva, Switzerland, Arafat declared that the PLO renounced terrorism and supported "the right of all parties concerned in the Middle East conflict to live in peace and security, including the state of Palestine, Israel and other neighbours".

The prospects for a peace agreement with Israel now brightened. After a setback when the PLO supported Iraq in the Persian Gulf War of 1991, the peace process began in earnest, leading to the Oslo Accords of 1993.

This agreement included provision for the Palestinian elections which took place in early 1996, and Arafat was elected President of the Palestine Authority. Like other Arab regimes in the area, however, Arafat's governing style tended to be more dictatorial than democratic. When the right-wing government of Benjamin Netanyahu came to power in Israel in 1996, the peace process slowed down considerably. Much depends upon the nature of the new Israeli government, which will result from the elections to be held in 1999.


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The 2009 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to United States President Barack Obama for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between people".[1] The Norwegian Nobel Committee announced the award on October 9, 2009, citing Obama's promotion of nuclear nonproliferation[2] and a "new climate" in international relations fostered by Obama, especially in reaching out to the Muslim world.[3][4]

The Nobel Committee's decision drew mixed reactions from US commentators and editorial writers across the political spectrum, as well as from the rest of the world.

Obama accepted the prize in Oslo on December 10, 2009. In a 36-minute speech, he discussed the tensions between war and peace and the idea of a "just war"[5] saying, "perhaps the most profound issue surrounding my receipt of this prize is the fact that I am the Commander-in-Chief of the military of a nation in the midst of two wars."[6]

Obama is the fourth US president to have been awarded a Nobel Prize (after Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson and Jimmy Carter, with Vice Presidents Charles Dawes and Al Gore also being recipients, with Carter and Gore's honors happening after leaving office).


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PolitiFact:

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DONALD TRUMP
Under the Iran deal: "If Israel attacks Iran … we’re supposed to be on Iran’s side."





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can we just blow israel off the map.....maybe that will shut up the middle schoolers over there.....


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