Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
Scientology Documentary 'Going Clear'
Rotterdam NY...the people's voice    Rotterdam's Virtual Internet Community     Chit Chat About Anything  ›   Scientology Documentary 'Going Clear' Moderators: Admin
Users Browsing Forum
No Members and 107 Guests

Scientology Documentary 'Going Clear'  This thread currently has 3,613 views. |
3 Pages « 1 2 3 » Recommend Thread
Libertarian4life
March 31, 2015, 2:21pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
7,356
Reputation
50.00%
Reputation Score
+12 / -12
Time Online
119 days 21 hours 10 minutes
Quoted from Box A Rox


And this has what to do with Scientology?


Nothing.

It has to do with you, a supporter of a million times more harmful crap than all the Scientology gangsters in the world.

Logged
Private Message Reply: 15 - 33
CICERO
March 31, 2015, 2:22pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
18,232
Reputation
68.00%
Reputation Score
+17 / -8
Time Online
702 days 15 hours 7 minutes
Quoted from Box A Rox


So you DO OPPOSE THE SCIENTOLOGISTS???


Don't know enough about them or their record of abuse.  The federal government has a long list of atrocities without prosecution.  Like the illegal invasion and massacre of an entire country.  


Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 16 - 33
Libertarian4life
March 31, 2015, 2:28pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
7,356
Reputation
50.00%
Reputation Score
+12 / -12
Time Online
119 days 21 hours 10 minutes
Quoted from CICERO


The same thing as your reference to Jonestown and deadly cults.  I just gave an example of a much deadlier cult with brainwashed followers that will stay loyal to the cult no matter how much death and destruction it causes.  Oh...And nobody gets prosecuted when this cult kills hundreds of thousands.


Box is a left wing extremist cult member.

He is also a  cheerleader and shill.

He supports good killing by the truckload.

He has this delusion that self justified killing/violence by those he supports, is good killing, and self justified killing by those that his masters denounce as evil, as bad killing/violence.

He never considers that the hatred and new enemies created by the good killings outweighs their good killer intentions.

Logged
Private Message Reply: 17 - 33
bumblethru
April 1, 2015, 9:00am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
30,841
Reputation
78.26%
Reputation Score
+36 / -10
Time Online
412 days 18 hours 59 minutes
who really gives a crap about HOLLYWOOD-ology???

If ya wanna be one.....JOIN!
If ya don't agree with it......DON'T JOIN or WALK AWAY!!!!

This so called documentary is nothing more than a 'money grab' by other Hollywood-ers.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
Logged
Private Message Reply: 18 - 33
Box A Rox
April 1, 2015, 4:28pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
25,926
Reputation
58.62%
Reputation Score
+17 / -12
Time Online
514 days 11 hours 54 minutes
About “Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief”:
Quoted Text
It’s a fantastic film and very disturbing. The documentary details the origin of Scientology and,
more importantly, how it controls, manipulates and essentially brainwashes its followers. It’s
definitely worth a watch.

But something occurred to me as I was watching how horrible the Church of Scientology is,
and I couldn’t shake the feeling of deja vu. By the time “Going Clear” was over, the only thing
I could think of was “How is this different than Fundamentalist Christianity in America?”

The obvious answer is, “Scientology was totally made up by a con man so of course it’s
different. It’s a cult!” But that isn’t an answer at all. Mormonism is completely made up
by a con man as well. That didn’t stop people from being aghast when conservative
Christians called Mitt Romney a member of a “cult” during the run up to the 2012 elections.

And let’s be honest, Scientology has exactly as much evidence for its veracity as any
other religion: Exactly none whatsoever. So really, the only reason Scientology is not a
“real” religion is time. If it’s around for another 150 years or so, people will treat it just
like Mormonism.

Some will argue that we know L. Ron Hubbard claimed he would make up a religion and
get rich so it’s clearly the whole thing is fake. But we also know, for a fact, that the
(pre-schism) Christian Church decided by committee which books would make it into
the Bible while the rest were discarded. In other words, what Christians claim is the
word of God is a book put together by men according to their personal needs and whims.
That makes the Bible about as believable as the word of God as Joseph Smith’s magical
(and conveniently never seen) Golden Plates.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 19 - 33
CICERO
April 1, 2015, 5:03pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
18,232
Reputation
68.00%
Reputation Score
+17 / -8
Time Online
702 days 15 hours 7 minutes
The only difference between a cult and a recognized religion like Christianity is if the church recognizes the government as the ultimate authority.  If the religion operates outside the authority of the state, it is labeled a cult.  That is why Mormonism is not widely recognized as a cult, Mitt Romney main streamed Mormonism.  

Jesus was the cult leader of his day.  And he was hung on a cross for all to see, to make an example of those  daring to challenge the authority of Rome.  If jesus lived in modern times, christians would be wearing electric chairs instead of crucifixes.

PS. I always find it interesting that writers and pundits attacking Christianity and God, and never use Judism as an example of religious extremism and mock God talking to Moses through a burning bush.  


Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 20 - 33
Box A Rox
April 1, 2015, 5:12pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
25,926
Reputation
58.62%
Reputation Score
+17 / -12
Time Online
514 days 11 hours 54 minutes
Quoted from CICERO
The only difference between a cult and a recognized religion like Christianity is if the church recognizes the government as the ultimate authority.  If the religion operates outside the authority of the state, it is labeled a cult.  That is why Mormonism is not widely recognized as a cult, Mitt Romney main streamed Mormonism.  

Jesus was the cult leader of his day.  And he was hung on a cross for all to see, to make an example of those  daring to challenge the authority of Rome.  If jesus lived in modern times, christians would be wearing electric chairs instead of crucifixes.


IT was Jesus's RELIGION who wanted him crucified.  The GOVT of the day just went along with it.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 21 - 33
CICERO
April 1, 2015, 5:24pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
18,232
Reputation
68.00%
Reputation Score
+17 / -8
Time Online
702 days 15 hours 7 minutes
Quoted from Box A Rox


IT was Jesus's RELIGION who wanted him crucified.  The GOVT of the day just went along with it.


The government didn't go along with anything.  It was government soldiers that crucified him, not the religious leaders.  Why did the Roman Government give a sh*t if Jesus was disrupting the church by claiming he was the King of the Jews?

Like I said, Jesus' religion was a government lap dog, hence an accepted religion of the state.  And like all good lap dogs, they turned to the state authority to kill Jesus.  Much like the warvangelical christians of today, they petition the government to kill the enemies of Israel, or to outlaw abortion, or outlaw gay marriage.  Since warvangelicals turn to the state, they are not a cult, but a loyal voting bloc worth pandering to.  

Man, I know you mock evangelicals(warvangelicals), but they are the most loyal statist in the country.  They even fly the government flags inside their churches right next to the crucifix, and hold special sermons on federal holidays praising the state, something completely counter to Jesus' teachings.  


Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 22 - 33
senders
April 1, 2015, 5:30pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
29,348
Reputation
70.97%
Reputation Score
+22 / -9
Time Online
1574 days 2 hours 22 minutes
Quoted from Box A Rox


IT was Jesus's RELIGION who wanted him crucified. The GOVT of the day just went along with it.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....render unto Ceaser.....so government IS a type of organized cult....

3 major prongs of mass control:

religion
government
money/trade

they are all types of 'orders' or cults.....religion could be argued to be the balm of the human soul/spirit/mind,
government is the 'protector' of the human, money/trade is the meeter of human needs food/water etc.....

healthcare today as we are building it will become all of these in one....psych with drugs is for the human soul/spirit/mind
medical care is the 'protector' of the human ie: surgery etc, preventative medicine is the meeter of human needs ie: what
to eat;how to take care of yourself etc

anyone ever notice:
father son holy spirit
executive, legislative, judicial


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 23 - 33
Libertarian4life
April 1, 2015, 9:10pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
7,356
Reputation
50.00%
Reputation Score
+12 / -12
Time Online
119 days 21 hours 10 minutes
Quoted from Box A Rox
About “Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief”:


You are a cult member of Obamatology.

Logged
Private Message Reply: 24 - 33
bumblethru
April 2, 2015, 6:34am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
30,841
Reputation
78.26%
Reputation Score
+36 / -10
Time Online
412 days 18 hours 59 minutes
Quoted from CICERO


.  They even fly the government flags inside their churches right next to the crucifix, and hold special sermons on federal holidays praising the state, something completely counter to Jesus' teachings.  


YUP they do!!!!
We have left churches that fly American flags OR churches that take Government $$$$$!!!!

Putting that all aside....Jesus came here to die for OUR sins. WE ALL killed him.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
Logged
Private Message Reply: 25 - 33
Box A Rox
April 2, 2015, 7:03am Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
25,926
Reputation
58.62%
Reputation Score
+17 / -12
Time Online
514 days 11 hours 54 minutes
Quoted from bumblethru


YUP they do!!!!
We have left churches that fly American flags OR churches that take Government $$$$$!!!!




I wonder if Bumbler's Church pays property tax? Or sales tax?


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 26 - 33
CICERO
April 2, 2015, 4:15pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
18,232
Reputation
68.00%
Reputation Score
+17 / -8
Time Online
702 days 15 hours 7 minutes
Quoted from Box A Rox


I wonder if Bumbler's Church pays property tax? Or sales tax?


The church of Planned Parenthood doesn't pay property or sales tax, and they get hundreds of millions in federal funding.  You must be outraged.


Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 27 - 33
Box A Rox
April 2, 2015, 4:18pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
25,926
Reputation
58.62%
Reputation Score
+17 / -12
Time Online
514 days 11 hours 54 minutes
Quoted from CICERO


The church of Planned Parenthood doesn't pay property or sales tax, and they get hundreds of millions in federal funding.  You must be outraged.


PP actually preforms a needed service to the public.  Churches, not so much.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 28 - 33
CICERO
April 2, 2015, 4:42pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
18,232
Reputation
68.00%
Reputation Score
+17 / -8
Time Online
702 days 15 hours 7 minutes
Quoted from Box A Rox


PP actually preforms a needed service to the public.  Churches, not so much.


Oh - Ok...So you're not outraged.  

That's the inner authoritarian you can't suppress...You've decided, PP good for public, Churches - not so much.  You've gotta be itching to tax churches for their lack of public service, and undeserving tax exemption status.

I told you box, the churches do perform a service, they hang the government flag next to the cross and Mother Mary, and they sing the Battle Hymn of the Republic on the Memorial Day, Independence Day, and Veterans Day Sunday service.  What more can a statist ask for than a church hanging the state flag in God's house?


Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 29 - 33
3 Pages « 1 2 3 » Recommend Thread
|

Rotterdam NY...the people's voice    Rotterdam's Virtual Internet Community     Chit Chat About Anything  ›   Scientology Documentary 'Going Clear'

Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread