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Box A Rox
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The funny thing about Graham's statement is that it wasn't a "civil war".  It was a war to prevent secession.  The confederate states didn't seek to control the federal government, they wanted to leave the union.  Graham is actually misinforming the electorate by continuing the "civil war" lie.


OK Cissy... (SIGH)  If you say so.   I've found that you seem unable to accept FACTS as FACTS, and
insist on your own definitions for just about everything.

Let me show you what a Civil War is for everyone else:
Civil War:
a war between political factions or regions within the same country.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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OK Cissy... (SIGH)  If you say so.   I've found that you seem unable to accept FACTS as FACTS, and
insist on your own definitions for just about everything.

Let me show you what a Civil War is for everyone else:
Civil War:
a war between political factions or regions within the same country.


(sigh...) Really...Still reciting high school history lies?  

The confederate states was not the "same country".  They formed their own country, or the confederacy.  And the Union waged war to prevent secession.  

The Confederate States of America (CSA or C.S.), commonly referred to as the Confederacy, was an unrecognized confederation of secessionist American states existing from 1861–65.

civil war
: a war between groups of people in the same country


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The funny thing about Graham's statement is that it wasn't a "civil war".  It was a war to prevent secession.  The confederate states didn't seek to control the federal government, they wanted to leave the union.  Graham is actually misinforming the electorate by continuing the "civil war" lie.


It was still a civil war
Civil War: noun  
1. a war between political factions or regions within the same country.
The US Civil War was waged to determine the survival of the Union or independence for the Confederacy.
What it was not was a war about or to end slavery!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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It was still a civil war
Civil War: noun  
1. a war between political factions or regions within the same country.
The US Civil War was waged to determine the survival of the Union or independence for the Confederacy.
What it was not was a war about or to end slavery!


The confederacy wasn't a political faction.  It was a country with its own congress, making their own laws.  It was a secessionist movement, not a civil war.  

If New York State voted to leave the Union, and the federal government sent in the military to prevent it, it's not a civil war.


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The confederacy wasn't a political faction.  It was a country with its own congress, making their own laws.  It was a secessionist movement, not a civil war.  

If New York State voted to leave the Union, and the federal government sent in the military to prevent it, it's not a civil war.


reading comprehension Sissy.... regions within the same country
You just want to rewrite everything your way, even though it's wrong!!!
It was a CIVIL WAR....too bad you can't understand the simplicity of it!
But then you would have to admit wrong or bow out because it doesn't fulfill your
narrow minded agenda!


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JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Marine Corps War Memorial Battle Honors

First Band: Revolutionary War - Korea (1775-1950)
Revolutionary War 1775-1783
French Naval War 1798-1801
Tripoli 1801-1805
War of 1812 1812-1815
Florida Indian Wars 1835-1842
Mexico 1846-1848
War Between the States 1861-1865
Spanish War 1898
Philippine Insurrection 1898-1902
Boxer Rebellion 1900
Nicaragua 1912
Vera Cruz 1914
Haiti 1915-1934
Santo Domingo 1916-1924
World War I 1917-1918
Belleau Wood
Soisson
St. Mihiel
Blanc Mont
Meuse-Argonne
Nicaragua 1926-1933
World War II
1941 Pearl Harbor
Wake Island
Bataan & Corregidor
1942 Midway
Guadalcanal
1943 New Georgia
Bougainville
Tarawa
New Britain
1944 Marshall Islands
Marianas Islands
Peleliu
1945 Iwo Jima
Okinawa
Korea 1950

state
a nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government.


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The confederacy wasn't a political faction.  It was a country with its own congress, making their own laws.  It was a secessionist movement, not a civil war.  

If New York State voted to leave the Union, and the federal government sent in the military to prevent it, it's not a civil war.


When the confederacy was formed...
Weren't they a POLITICAL FACTION within the USA?
  


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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When the confederacy was formed...
Weren't they a POLITICAL FACTION within the USA?
  


No, they were states within the voluntary union that seceded from the Union to form a confederacy.  A state government isn't a political faction.  There are multiple political factions within a state.  The state's did not fight to control the union government(federal government).  Each state voted to LEAVE the union and create a confederation of states.


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No, they were states within the voluntary union that seceded from the Union to form a confederacy.  A state government isn't a political faction.  There are multiple political factions within a state.  The state's did not fight to control the union government(federal government).  Each state voted to LEAVE the union and create a confederation of states.


SO again... when one of these (not yet) confederate states, were voting to leave the USA...
(before they voted to leave) weren't they a political faction within the USA???


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Civil War:

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~A civil war is a war between organized groups within the same state or republic,
or, less commonly,
~between two countries created from a formerly united state.
~ The aim of one side may be to take control of the country or a region,
~ to achieve independence for a region, or to change government policies.


Cicero.  Read the above, and tell us again that the US Civil War, was not a "civil war"!


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Civil War:



Cicero.  Read the above, and tell us again that the US Civil War, was not a "civil war"!


Ohhh...Now I get it.  So based on your definition, the Vietnam and the Korean War were civil wars?


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Ohhh...Now I get it.  So based on your definition, the Vietnam and the Korean War were civil wars?

Yes they were.



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Yes they were.


Wow!  So the USG actually fought and sacrificed Americans to prevent Vietnam from preserving their union?  So the U.S. fought to preserve the secession of South Vietnam from the northern aggressors?  Oh the irony. Box fought to defend a seceding state.  D

I'm surprised the USG doesn't encourage South Korea to invade North Korea to unify the Korean Peninsula under the South's government.  South Korea needs their Lincoln.


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Box, see how Sissy-poo just does a sidestep because of his refusal to admit ERROR?
Saw it coming from a mile away...only thing Sissy is good at...SISSY GAMES
Now if you justify your points, he will then shift his reply in a totally different direction...


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
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Not sidestepping anything.  Laughing at you and box's commitment to your civil war theory.  I even posted the USMC monument that list it as "the war between the states".  Lol


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