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Two people were stabbed at the building used for Schenectady County Community College dorms on Sunday afternoon, according to Sgt. Matthew Dearing of the Schenectady Police Department.

Both victims were taken to Albany Medical Center Hospital. But Dearing said the police have no other details at this time.

While the building across from the campus on Washington Avenue is used for dorms, it is owned by a private entity and not the college.




    
  











  







  
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Just caught this on the news.   Police spokesman noted the public is not at risk.   But stated the perpetrator is still on the loose.   We would be a tad concerned if was in that vicity until he/she is contained.   On a side note related to the dorms.   In a past Gazette article a reporter inquired as to how many units in the dorms are actually rented/occupied.   Was stated that mgt. does not release those numbers.   Wonder why.
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SCCC is back in the news! First it was the basketball team/boxers who punched out the coach. Then the former chancellor who compared SCCC to an Edsel and was
cheered on by the bored. Why does a commuter college need dorms? Of course they were never needed and more taxpayer largess for the DEM friends/family club.
Unneeded, vacant taxpayer ripoff. Another total flop from the usual suspects.
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...On a side note related to the dorms.   In a past Gazette article a reporter inquired as to how many units in the dorms are actually rented/occupied.   Was stated that mgt. does not release those numbers.   Wonder why.



Why?   Because it's taxpayer funded.  Just like the taxpayer funded hotels downtown, neither the city nor the county nor metroplex EVER states the occupancy rates of those places.


As it's taxpayer funded, the taxpayers have a birthright entitlement to those numbers, the news media should FOIL and if no answer contact someone at the state level.  Oh wait, same cronies


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Anyone hear anything about a motive for this attack on the two students?   It always seemed odd that after the attack the two students left the premises, while inside during the attack.    Then ran from the dormitory bldg., then crossed a busy(?) State street, then into the Stockade Deli to report the attack seeking help.   Would'nt it have been more prudent to seek asst. from mgt./security at the dormitory?
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SCCC is back in the news! First it was the basketball team/boxers who punched out the coach. Then the former chancellor who compared SCCC to an Edsel and was
cheered on by the bored. Why does a commuter college need dorms? Of course they were never needed and more taxpayer largess for the DEM friends/family club.
Unneeded, vacant taxpayer ripoff. Another total flop from the usual suspects.


Technically, it is a COMMUNITY college not a "commuter college" and there is a growing trend across the country for community colleges to have on campus housing.  

There was a need for student housing, it is not vacant and you really need to provide actual evidence to prove your allegations of anything improper financially in the building of the student housing.


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Anyone hear anything about a motive for this attack on the two students?  


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if the suites are independently owned....then that means others than students are living/renting or whatever there....is there security/safety...

just crossing the sttreet to the college alone is a hazard.....and so is that whole corridor of traffic going West...
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if the suites are independently owned....then that means others than students are living/renting or whatever there....is there security/safety...

just crossing the sttreet to the college alone is a hazard.....and so is that whole corridor of traffic going West...


Independently owned and fully tax exempt.

18 million dollars worth of exemptions for the college, 10 million in exemptions for the dorms and 4.2 million more for the metroplex property adjacent to the college, which they sold to Legere for 75 bucks 2 years ago, and it is still not on the tax rolls.

$42.2 million in tax exemptions in one block.

Not 1 single one of these tax welfare recipients are true non-profits.



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Independently owned and fully tax exempt.

18 million dollars worth of exemptions for the college, 10 million in exemptions for the dorms and 4.2 million more for the metroplex property adjacent to the college, which they sold to Legere for 75 bucks 2 years ago, and it is still not on the tax rolls.

$42.2 million in tax exemptions in one block.

Not 1 single one of these tax welfare recipients are true non-profits.





another only in schenectady...
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another only in schenectady...


Actually, there is a growing trend for public colleges to enter into agreements with private companies to own and maintain student housing.  In most of these instances the private company doesn't  pay property tax either because a) the public college owns the land on which the building is built or b) the land is off campus but some arrangements have been worked out with the local governement.

Colleges expand housing options through public-private partnerships
Campus Town will cover 12 acres and house TCNJ students as well as retail outlets.
(Courtesy TCNJ)
Tom De Poto|The Star-Ledger By Tom De Poto|The Star-Ledger
on March 02, 2014 at 8:52 AM, updated March 03, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Lior Naor is a junior at Rutgers University living in Rockoff Hall in downtown New Brunswick. She won the apartment through a lottery that about 12,000 students looking for housing enter every year.

“I love it,” the psychology major said. “The location is great and there’s a lot of Rutgers students in the area.”

In February, however, a private, Pennsylvania-based company purchased the building for $44.1 million.

Naor will be returning in September and didn’t have to enter any lottery. Instead of paying Rutgers, she’ll be sending a monthly rent check to McKinney Properties, which bought the building.

The Economic Stimulus Act of 2009 paved the way for public colleges to partner with private developers to keep up with demand for upscale dorms without taking on more debt.

Montclair State University was among the first to take advantage, building The Heights in partnership with Provident Resources Group. The Georgia-based nonprofit financed the $211 million project. Provident owns the buildings, which house 1,978 students, and pays a lease to the university.

When the bonds are fully paid, the property will revert to the university.

Among the more ambitious projects underway is The College of New Jersey’s Campus Town, a 12-acre mini village being built in partnership with the West Long Branch-based PRC Group.

The development will house not only students, but retail outlets as well.

“The planning for Campus Town dates back to 2008,” said TCNJ spokesman Dave Muha. “The (Economic Stimulus Act) helped make it possible.”

See a video of campus town here.

Like Rutgers, TCNJ fulfills housing requests through a lottery system. There are about 6,600 students and only 4,000 beds, Muha said.

PRC will invest about $80 million to construct the nine-building village. It will be responsible for student rents and the retail leases. Barnes & Noble, the campus bookstore, will be one of the anchor tenants.

PRC will pay TCNJ $1 million annually under a 50-year lease agreement.

“It’s not a transferring of housing responsibility to another organization,” Muha said. “There’s more demand for housing than the college can provide, which is why this is a win-win. It’s an innovative way to provide additional housing that the college couldn’t do on its own.”

Campus Town will house about 446 students in one-, two- and four-bedroom apartments with a kitchen area and living room. About 79,000 square feet of the 278,000 total square feet will be devoted to retail outlets.

“The real gain for the college is being able to provide housing and other amenities that we couldn’t afford, as well as strengthen the college-community relationship,” Muha said.

It’s an innovative way to provide additional housing that the college couldn’t do on its own.” Muha
Rutgers has two such projects underway. One is Rockoff Hall in New Brunswick, the other is 15 Washington Street in Newark.

The Newark landmark high-rise housed the Rutgers law school from 1978 to 1999, but has been vacant since then.

Rutgers plans to sell the building to Devco, a New Brunswick development firm that has worked closely with the university on several other major projects.

The project calls for restoring the building to its original glory when it was the headquarters for the American Insurance Company. It will be used now primarily to house graduate students in apartment units, and the school chancellor will move into a penthouse at the top of the building.

Plans for the renovation had been on the table for several years, said Antonio Calcado, Rutgers vice president of university facilities and capital planning.
“We could not have done as big a project without the partnership,” he said.

“Everything was on a much more reduced scale that wouldn’t do the building justice.”

Rutgers will operate the building, and students will lease the apartments through the university, which will in turn makes payments to Devco. The rehabilitation and restoration are expected to cost $95 million.

Selling the building to Devco gives the developer equity that it will leverage to fund the project.

Rodd Werstil, managing director of real estate investments for McKinney Properties, which owns Rockoff Hall, said, “It’s a national business model.”

He said this type of apartment housing for students using public-private partnerships is more popular in other states than in New Jersey, but he sees change coming.

“It’s about educating the marketplace, and the marketplace seems to be accepting it,” he said.

McKinney has invested more than $1 million to upgrade the building, installing dishwashers in each unit, adding student lounges, a computer room with printers and a fitness area.

Rents in the 674-bed building include furniture, security and utilities such as cable and internet.

An added benefit for students such as Naor is that the lease is 12 months, so they don’t have to move out at the end of the spring semester. The monthly payments are also cheaper.

“We’re really shifting students toward a much nicer product,” Werstil said.

In addition to easing college housing burdens, the developers claim other benefits.

In its application to the state Economic Development Authority. PRC, builder of Campus Town, said the development will create 475 permanent jobs, and an additional 6,000 to 10,000 temporary construction-related jobs. Once completed, it anticipates generating $1.5 million in sales taxes annually.


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Technically, it is a COMMUNITY college not a "commuter college" and there is a growing trend across the country for community colleges to have on campus housing.  

There was a need for student housing, it is not vacant and you really need to provide actual evidence to prove your allegations of anything improper financially in the building of the student housing.



Um, DV, there is way more than enough housing for students without making those of us who really are homeowners and taxpayers pay the taxes of this multimillion dollar building.  We (who are taxpayers, that excludes you) paid for this building, it did NOT add to the tax base in the city, and now we (who are taxpayers, that excludes you) are paying the taxes on the place.

Not to mention these kiddies are getting free internet, free cable, free big screen TV's, Central Air, heat and electricity, free parking, game rooms.  My goodness, do you realize that many of the people who paid for this building and now must pay the taxes for it, cannot afford cable, internet, AC, modern TV's, etc.

Tell us DV, why can't these kids rent in one of those downtown apartments that you cheer for so much, oh wait, those are tax exempt as well.

Obviously DV, you have absolutely no clue whatsoever how difficult it is for good landlords, often who might even live in one flat of a two or three family house, to find people to rent because no one wants to live in the city, so therefore the vacancy rate for the existing TAXPAYING properties is at record highs.   The students can rent them.  Just think of all the housing that private owners had for Union College and then Union wanted all students to live on the campus, no these landlords (some good, some not so good) have empty apartments and of course unable to pay the taxes, then they can lose the house to tax foreclosure thus resulting in more abandoned houses AND more reduction to the tax base.

If the students can't afford to rent an apartment, then tough sh*t, they can go to college in their own home counties.  Those who live in Schenetady, Albany, Troy, Amsterdam, Clifton Park, hey, if it's a matter of life and death to attend SCCC can drive, what do these kids think, that life is going to be easy and inexpensive?  We've known so many people who commuted to Albany from places like Utica, Poughkeepsie, and Glens Falls 5 days a week.  

If the kids can't afford to drive that far, TS, they can find other schools closer to home.  It is NOT the taxpayers' responsibility to be paying for private apartments for kids to attend school.  Keep community colleges as community colleges.  



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Um, DV, there is way more than enough housing for students without making those of us who really are homeowners and taxpayers pay the taxes of this multimillion dollar building.  We (who are taxpayers, that excludes you) paid for this building, it did NOT add to the tax base in the city, and now we (who are taxpayers, that excludes you) are paying the taxes on the place.

Not to mention these kiddies are getting free internet, free cable, free big screen TV's, Central Air, heat and electricity, free parking, game rooms.  My goodness, do you realize that many of the people who paid for this building and now must pay the taxes for it, cannot afford cable, internet, AC, modern TV's, etc.

Tell us DV, why can't these kids rent in one of those downtown apartments that you cheer for so much, oh wait, those are tax exempt as well.

Obviously DV, you have absolutely no clue whatsoever how difficult it is for good landlords, often who might even live in one flat of a two or three family house, to find people to rent because no one wants to live in the city, so therefore the vacancy rate for the existing TAXPAYING properties is at record highs.   The students can rent them.  Just think of all the housing that private owners had for Union College and then Union wanted all students to live on the campus, no these landlords (some good, some not so good) have empty apartments and of course unable to pay the taxes, then they can lose the house to tax foreclosure thus resulting in more abandoned houses AND more reduction to the tax base.

If the students can't afford to rent an apartment, then tough sh*t, they can go to college in their own home counties.  Those who live in Schenetady, Albany, Troy, Amsterdam, Clifton Park, hey, if it's a matter of life and death to attend SCCC can drive, what do these kids think, that life is going to be easy and inexpensive?  We've known so many people who commuted to Albany from places like Utica, Poughkeepsie, and Glens Falls 5 days a week.  

If the kids can't afford to drive that far, TS, they can find other schools closer to home.  It is NOT the taxpayers' responsibility to be paying for private apartments for kids to attend school.  Keep community colleges as community colleges.  



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