Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

It certainly is a sign that things are turning around.  10-15 years ago, Downtown was dark, dingy and deteriorating.  Now, it is brighter, getting spruced up and fixed up.  Those of us who are reasonable, sensible and love Schenectady are happy to see the city-county moving forward in a positive direction.  There is more work still to be done but it is great to enjoy the milestones of success (like the opening of each new business or reopening of reinvigorated older business) along the way.

Yes, the homeowners are paying the electric bill to keep the bright lights on, and the beer flowing.  Great economic policy.  The illusion of an expanding economy.   The reality, an expanding residential property tax bill to pay for the illusion.

Quoted from CICERO

Yes, the homeowners are paying the electric bill to keep the bright lights on, and the beer flowing.  Great economic policy.  The illusion of an expanding economy.   The reality, an expanding residential property tax bill to pay for the illusion.

The residents are paying the power bills for those businesses?   You will need to show me proof -- show me your cancelled check paying National Grid or some other power provider for the power bill that you paid for some one else's business?

Yes -- it a great economic policy to revitalize an EMPTY building and open a business that employs people and sells goods and/or services ---- that IS what we need all across the city-county.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

that IS what we need all across the city-county.

agree, but its never going to be "all across"...after how many millions and years...just downtown  

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

The residents are paying the power bills for those businesses?   You will need to show me proof -- show me your cancelled check paying National Grid or some other power provider for the power bill that you paid for some one else's business?

Yes -- it a great economic policy to revitalize an EMPTY building and open a business that employs people and sells goods and/or services ---- that IS what we need all across the city-county.

The tax exemptions off set their operating cost to afford the electric bill.  Tax those businesses at 100% and I am confident those lights will turn off.

Quoted from CICERO

Yes, the homeowners are paying the electric bill to keep the bright lights on, and the beer flowing.  Great economic policy.  The illusion of an expanding economy.   The reality, an expanding residential property tax bill to pay for the illusion.

Property tax expansion was needed for the expanding debt.

When the tax base failed to grow with the expanding debt, they make up new values for all homes and raise the taxes, thereby giving the illusion of growing the tax base.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

The residents are paying the power bills for those businesses?   You will need to show me proof -- show me your cancelled check paying National Grid or some other power provider for the power bill that you paid for some one else's business?

Yes -- it a great economic policy to revitalize an EMPTY building and open a business that employs people and sells goods and/or services ---- that IS what we need all across the city-county.

Very true.

Except your version is where we, the taxpayers, have to pay the extra tax burden to make up for the millions given to millionaires each year.

If your plan is to kill the taxpayers, destroy property values and make the rich, richer, then you have a great plan.

That isn't helping the city.

Borrowing 3 million to demolish 63 homes is outright thievery.

The city could have saved 3 million dollars by simply giving the properties away.

I guess the city auctions must have had no bidders.

If anyone bid a dollar they should have won the property.

3 million dollars to demolish stuff we don't want and too stupid to simply give it away.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Yes -- it a great economic policy to revitalize an EMPTY building and open a business that employs people and sells goods and/or services ---- that IS what we need all across the city-county.

So, YOUR idea of "great economic policy" is to take money from the taxpayers to open a bunch or taxpayer paid gin bills in exchange for LOW WAGE jobs that people need public assistance subsidies.

So YOUR idea of "great economic policy" is to cause MASSIVE REDUCTION to the city's tax base.     Can you state how that is "great economic policy?"

So YOUR idea of "great economic policy" is to bring millionaires and billionaires downtown to "develop" at taxpayer expense and then force the homeowners under threat of seizure of their homes to pay the taxes of these super rich.

So YOUR idea of "great economic policy" is what has caused THOUSANDS to put their houses up for sale and flee the city.

So YOUR idea of "great economic policy" is what has caused HUNDREDS UPON HUNDREDS of EMPTY HOUSES in the neighborhoods where the TAXPAYERS live which in turn caused MASSIVE reduction in home value combined with MASSIVE INCREASE in taxes combined with a LARGE REDUCTION in ESSENTIAL services to the taxpayers.

So YOUR idea of "great economic policy" is to cause LONG TIME small, average income, mom and pop businesses, to be FORCED OUT OF BUSINESS by forcing them to pay the taxes of the millionaires and billionaires downtown.

So YOUR idea of "great economic policy" is to install UNNECESSARY fancy light poles on a street where NO ONE LIVES while cutting the NECESSARY paving of roads in the neighborhoods where the TAXPAYERS LIVE.

So YOUR idea of "great economic policy" is to CREATE HUNDREDS upon HUNDREDS of foreclosed houses in the city.

So YOUR idea of "great economic policy" is to force taxpayers to pay to create HUNDREDS upon HUNDREDS of empty house and then FORCE the taxpayers to pay for demolition of these houses.



So DV, tell us what YOUR idea of "great economic policy" is when there are no more taxpayers left in the city to pay the taxes of the millionaires and billionaires downtown?


Can you explain why YOUR idea of "great economic policy" is resulting in virtually no one moving into the city.   Can you provide one teeny weeny shred of EVIDENCE to show that home sales are increasing?   That home values are increasing?


Can you state why YOUR idea of "great economic policy" result in your avoiding the city like it is the plague?    Why do you REFUSE to live IN the city?



Why do you refuse to every provide EVIDENCE of anything you say?    Why DV?    Why do you avoid responding to our intelligence and our telling the truth (proven with endless amounts of EVIDENCE) about the city and your buddy dems?

That's right, be a chicken, do your customary YAWN when you are confronted with the truth and  you cannot address the FACTS

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

It certainly is a sign that things are turning around.  10-15 years ago, Downtown was dark, dingy and deteriorating.  Now, it is brighter, getting spruced up and fixed up.  Those of us who are reasonable, sensible and love Schenectady are happy to see the city-county moving forward in a positive direction.  There is more work still to be done but it is great to enjoy the milestones of success (like the opening of each new business or reopening of reinvigorated older business) along the way.

If you are reasonable and sensible and claim to love Schenectady, why do you REFUSE to live IN the city??????     TOO CHICKEN TO ANSWER (but of course, you are not adult enough to live as a normal man, independent and leave the teat)


And maybe 10-15 years ago the buildings downtown were darker but they brought in some tax dollars.   Now, 10-15 later, there are NO PLACES IN the city to buy anything but dollar store JUNK, there are NO STORES DOWNTOWN, the taxbase is going through MASSIVE REDUCTION, and the neighborhoods are becoming dark, dingy and deteriorating.


And "opening of new businesses" is NOT accurate.   It's opening of taxpayer funded gin mills.  


Explain to us DV, how a city can survive on taxpayer funded gin mills and a bunch of welfare wage jobs?    Oh, of course you will NOT respond and address these FACTS.   NO CREDIBILITIY WHATSOEVER.

Ignore the dumbass nayboobs -- celebrate the RENAISSANCE in the City-County of Schenectady.   Have a beer and wurst at the Biergarten today,  Sunday brunch at Top's or Blue Ribbon, then a steak sandwich at Morette's on Monday, Tuesday a slice of the best pizza in the city from Isopo's, Wednesday a sub from Lyle's, Thursday a slice from the best pizza place outside the city limits - NikkiP's and Friday -- fish and chips from Combo's, and next Saturday breakfast or lunch at the exceptional Union Cafe.

It isn't good economic policy. I've posted example after example of why not. No one has shown me any real numbers to the contrary. Because they can't.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Ignore the dumbass nayboobs -- celebrate the RENAISSANCE in the City-County of Schenectady.   Have a beer and wurst at the Biergarten today,  Sunday brunch at Top's or Blue Ribbon, then a steak sandwich at Morette's on Monday, Tuesday a slice of the best pizza in the city from Isopo's, Wednesday a sub from Lyle's, Thursday a slice from the best pizza place outside the city limits - NikkiP's and Friday -- fish and chips from Combo's, and next Saturday breakfast or lunch at the exceptional Union Cafe.

Ignore the dumbass (you) who doesn't have the intelligence to know that there is no renaissance.

A renaissance?

Where DV, where is the renaissance?  

Only dumbasses would claim that a city with a MASSIVELY FALLING tax base is having a renaissance, but we intelligent people know otherwise.

Only dumbasses like yourself would claim that a city is in a renaissance when everyone is trying to move out, but who have intelligence know otherwise.

Only a dumbass like yourself would claim that a city is in a renaissance when no one wants to move into the city, but we intelligent people know otherwise.

Only a dumbass like yourself would claim that a city with the second most over-assessed houses (proof of massively falling home values) is in a renaissance, but we are highly intelligent and know the FACTS know otherwise.

Only a dumbass like yourself would claim that a city with almost the highest taxes in the state and ever increasing taxes is indicative of a renaissance, but intelligent homeowners and taxpayers like we are know otherwise.

Only a dumbass like yourself would claim a city is in a renaissance and then refuse to live IN the city, even avoid putting a pinky toe IN the city.  Obviously didn't want to go to church anymore IN the city, so moves on to two churches in the Nisky suburb

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Ignore the dumbass nayboobs -- celebrate the RENAISSANCE in the City-County of Schenectady.   Have a beer and wurst at the Biergarten today,  Sunday brunch at Top's or Blue Ribbon, then a steak sandwich at Morette's on Monday, Tuesday a slice of the best pizza in the city from Isopo's, Wednesday a sub from Lyle's, Thursday a slice from the best pizza place outside the city limits - NikkiP's and Friday -- fish and chips from Combo's, and next Saturday breakfast or lunch at the exceptional Union Cafe.

Gee, DV, what size pants do you wear now?    About an 6X?      Probably not a scale around you can get on.   Still wearing the tie from your childhood?

So many wonderful businesses to patronize in the City-County of Schenectady.  One of the things that we nee  is a good candy maker.  Mr. Gillen should try to get Krause's to open up a shop in either Downtown Schenectady or Rotterdam.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

So many wonderful businesses to patronize in the City-County of Schenectady.  One of the things that we nee  is a good candy maker.  Mr. Gillen should try to get Krause's to open up a shop in either Downtown Schenectady or Rotterdam.

Naturally, seek junk food.   Candy.   Bad for your teeth, bad for your waistline.

So, where are the businesses in Schenectady CITY?????    Tell us DV.   Tell us where there are businesses IN the city that are NOT paid for by the taxpayers ?????

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

KEM's went out of business 10 or more years ago. Unlike the person that I was responding to, I knew that KEM's had been closed.  BTW - KEMs closed when Jurzynski was running the city and Farley the county -- so "thank" them for creating the high taxes and anti-business climate that killed so many businesses a decade ago.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......thank Generous Electric when they moved OUT!!!

THAT was the downfall of Schenectady, New York!!!!!