Quoted from senders

schenectady is a destination where if you win the big jackpot you get a free back pack with box mac/cheese...

You must be standing in the wrong line.  The jackpot that I hit by living in the City-County of Schenectady is living in a great community, with a lot of great residents, terrific institutions (places of worship, community organizations, museum & library, Proctor's, etc.)  and a bright, increasingly improving future due to the RENAISSANCE that is taking place.

Besides - My homemade version of macaroni cheese is so much better than anything in a box or served ANY place else (including at any restaurant).

Quoted from Parent

I agree with DV  in this case. The negatives from a casino in both of East Greenbush and Howe's locations would far outweigh any positives. I do not want it to be in Schenectady either, but it's not as if we aren't already dealing with the crime and poverty that are side effects of the gambling industry.

If a casino is to be built in the Capital Region, I'd rather it be in Schenectady than any other place. We might as well benefit from it rather than some other community.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

You must be standing in the wrong line.  The jackpot that I hit by living in the City-County of Schenectady is living in a great community, with a lot of great residents, terrific institutions (places of worship, community organizations, museum & library, Proctor's, etc.)  and a bright, increasingly improving future due to the RENAISSANCE that is taking place.

Besides - My homemade version of macaroni cheese is so much better than anything in a box or served ANY place else (including at any restaurant).

What about the tax base, DV?   What about the property values?   What about the home sales?   What about home sale prices?   What about taxes?   Etc.

Of course, we all know that you won't address the FACTS based on INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE.   You know that I'm right, that I speak the whole truth and provide evidence.   Since you cannot contract my evidence, you choose to hide.   Big chicken.

Your mac and cheese?   Your "figure" shows you eat a lot of it.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

If a casino is to be built in the Capital Region, I'd rather it be in Schenectady than any other place. We might as well benefit from it rather than some other community.

And HOW will we benefit????  

Since I have provided the EVIDENCE that Galesi's land there is 100% TAX EXEMPT with NO END DATE, then tell, us DV, HOW is the city going to collect taxes from tax exempt property?   No answer????????

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

If a casino is to be built in the Capital Region, I'd rather it be in Schenectady than any other place. We might as well benefit from it rather than some other community.

the benefit will be in a bigger police force more fire fighters , quicker faster better snow removal, etc etc

the cost to 'take care' of it's patrons will go up.....the cost of taking care of ourselves is gigantic now....we'll have a bunch of
gumbas looking to get their 'fair share' out of the tax payers and unions.....

Quoted from senders

the benefit will be in a bigger police force more fire fighters , quicker faster better snow removal, etc etc

the cost to 'take care' of it's patrons will go up.....the cost of taking care of ourselves is gigantic now....we'll have a bunch of
gumbas looking to get their 'fair share' out of the tax payers and unions.....

I haven't seen any evidence that the police or fire departments will be expanded because of the casino.

Quicker, faster snow removal is a good thing that benefits everyone.

New Casino = more people coming to the City-County of Schenectady to spend $$ = more sales tax revenue.

Overnight visitors will pay tax on their rooms = more revenue coming to the City-County.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

I haven't seen any evidence that the police or fire departments will be expanded because of the casino.

Quicker, faster snow removal is a good thing that benefits everyone.

New Casino = more people coming to the City-County of Schenectady to spend $$ = more sales tax revenue.

Overnight visitors will pay tax on their rooms = more revenue coming to the City-County.

Buddy there is virtually no snow removal in the city.   There has been NOT ONE snow emergency declared since the Stratton became mayor.   Stratton told the former mayor Al, "absolutely NO trash fee."   And then as soon as Stratton became the mayor, he proved he was full of sh*t as he proposed a trash fee which has been hiked in cost three times, almost doubling in amount in less than ten years!


Now, DV, as you are not a taxpayer, you do know know the FACTS.   Maybe there will be a little bit of tax coming from hotel rooms and other small amounts.  

DV, you need to understand that the taxpayers are paying out way far more than will EVER come IN to the city.  

For every dollar the city spends, it may get one penny back.   That equals MASSIVE LOSS.

Go back to school DV and learn math and accounting

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

I haven't seen any evidence that the police or fire departments will be expanded because of the casino.

Quicker, faster snow removal is a good thing that benefits everyone.

New Casino = more people coming to the City-County of Schenectady to spend $$ = more sales tax revenue.

Overnight visitors will pay tax on their rooms = more revenue coming to the City-County.

yes...because more government workers (increase in taxes) is good?

I forgot about the trash fee......hhhhmmmm

gambling on city/county benefits.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

You must be standing in the wrong line.  The jackpot that I hit by living in the City-County of Schenectady is living in a great community, .

ROFL    The "jackpot" you got was living with your mommy and daddy in the CITY, then you hit a jackpot living with two "mommies" in the TOWN.

Never had to pay a mortgage, never had to pay taxes, never had to support yourself.

Quoted from senders

yes...because more government workers (increase in taxes) is good?

I forgot about the trash fee......hhhhmmmm

gambling on city/county benefits.

There is NOTHING to support your statement that a new casino would require more government workers.  

As for the city trash fee - I really don't feel too badly for you on that.  In the towns, we pay to have our trash removed.  

Quoted from senders

yes...because more government workers (increase in taxes) is good?

I forgot about the trash fee......hhhhmmmm

gambling on city/county benefits.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

There is NOTHING to support your statement that a new casino would require more government workers.  

As for the city trash fee - I really don't feel too badly for you on that.  In the towns, we pay to have our trash removed.  

LOL, Senders, he doesn't understand that more properties, more NON-TAXPAYING properties could require more police, etc.   DV does NOT understand that there would be more streets to plow and of course we who are intelligent and are taxpayers and understand finances and politics know full well that the "Galesi streets" which are 100% TAX  EXEMPT will be plowed AND be plowed much much better than the neighborhoods where the taxpayers live.


DV says they pay trash in the town.   HE does NOT pay for trash, his two mommies do.  In the city we know that the "fee" for a one family is $218 AND there is funding from the "tax" portion as well.   AND the so called fee is NOT tax deductible.  AND we know the dems, who said there would NEVER be a trash fee when mayor Al suggested it, when Stratton became mayor he immediately shoved a trash fee on the homeowners which has nearly doubled in less than 10 years.  Wonder how much it will go up in this coming budget.   And of course a two-family house pays twice that amount $436, even if the owner does not rent the other flat (many homeowners choose NOT to rent, but then many cannot find renters because no one wants to even rent IN the city).   And of course despite those high trash costs, just drive around and see how BAD the city trash people work.  Rotterdam which has private collection is relatively clean, I have NEVER in 20 years seen a pile of trash bags sitting next to the trash can provided.  

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

I haven't seen any evidence that the police or fire departments will be expanded because of the casino.

Quicker, faster snow removal is a good thing that benefits everyone.

New Casino = more people coming to the City-County of Schenectady to spend $$ = more sales tax revenue.

Overnight visitors will pay tax on their rooms = more revenue coming to the City-County.

Quoted Text

Melissa Kearney, an economist at the University of Maryland, released a literature review in 2005 summarizing work on gambling done to date. A study by Maryland's William Evans and Julie Topoleski that focused on Indian casinos found that they created a significant number of jobs. The ratio of jobs available to adults increased, on average, by 5 percent. This in turn lead to a 2 percent decline in mortality, as residents' economic conditions improved.

But the casinos also lead to a plethora of social ills, including increased substance abuse, mental illness and suicide, violent crime, auto theft and larceny, and bankruptcy. The latter three all increased by 10 percent in communities that allowed gambling.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....cy-and-even-suicide/

Quoted from CICERO

http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....cy-and-even-suicide/

That doesn't say anything about police and fire departments being expanded because of casinos.  
It DOES SAY that the casinos created jobs and then says that because of the new jobs "morality declined" by 2%.  Not that one can actually measure "morality" statistically -- but one could say that since the study is saying that the NEW JOBS led to a decrease in "morality" that ANY thing that creates new jobs would lead to a decrease in "morality."  However, I think this study that you quote is dubious at best -- and don't for a moment believe that creating new jobs somehow decreases "morality."

So you will need to go back and grasp at more straws to support your flawed thinking.

it's like NYS with their gamblers help after the lotto commercial.....

anything that humans are lead to by their government's requires a social net.....sure there will be more jobs outside the casino
to support the ills.....

Quoted from senders

it's like NYS with their gamblers help after the lotto commercial.....

anything that humans are lead to by their government's requires a social net.....sure there will be more jobs outside the casino
to support the ills.....

And just think how much increase in taxes on the homeowners in the city (of Schenectady) because the Schdy land is 100% tax exempt (DV has NOT provided one itsy bitsy teeny weeny shred of evidence that it will be taxed in full, while I have provided the evidence from the official tax records showing 100% tax exemption with no end year)

So taxes will continue to go up and that will cause even more reduction of the city's tax base.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Metroplex isn't a gamble -- it is a solid investment.  It has paid tremendously positive dividend to the City-County of Schenectady under its capable leadership during the past decade.

And the EVIDENCE proves that DV is FULL OF POOP


Tell is to the homeowners in the city.   The following FACT is multiplied hundreds, probably THOUSANDS of times in the city under the dems


1487 Wyoming Ave - mayor and his cronies have listed this houses several times on his gala taxpayer funded bus tour of open houes

The owners bought the house for $150,000 in April 2006 while the city had the dem mayor of BS
They got an FHA mortgage for $148,800
Got an FHA mortgage, rates in 2006 were around 7%, we'll apply 6.5%.  Based on that rate and mortgage amount, the payoff balance today is just about $131,000.

In 2006, city had DEM mayor (mayor of BS)
Reassessment done in 2009-10 assessed the house for $146,800 - under a DEM mayor of BS, house already lost value.
But wow, they tried to sell for $179,900 in Sept 2009
In 2014, city has a DEM mayor (mayor McTHIEF)
Payoff on their house is about $131,000, they are currently asking $129,000

Not only have they lost 8 years of money paid on the mortgage so far, but now, when they sell, they will STILL have a mortgage balance left to pay after they have sold their house.

DV's claim of Metroplex providing a "tremendous dividend" is PURE NONSENSE  - the TRUTH is, the FACT is, and the EVIDENCE PROVES   homeowners in the city are LOSING THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS   of dollars in a FEW SHORT YEARS, and that is the TRUTH,  and DV cannot provide ONE ITSY BITSY TEENY WEENY SHRED OF EVIDENCE to contradict the INTELLIGENCE of those of us who provide the proof and state the truth!!!!!!!!!


Thanks to the dems and plex leading the city and county.