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CICERO
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Ugh!!!  More jingoism's from Joey.  Simple slogans for simple minds.

How do you even "uphold a nations pride"?  That's the sh*t Nazi propaganda was made from.


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Ugh!!!  More jingoism's from Joey.  Simple slogans for simple minds.

Simple, yes...but your mind can't even grasp it!
Unlike you MORON, I'm providing input based on the TOPIC OF THE THREAD!!!!


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That's a big surprise coming from Government Motors.  The top 3 shareholder in order is the Federal Government, UAW retirement healthcare fund, and the Canadian Government.


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That's a big surprise coming from Government Motors.  The top 3 shareholder in order is the Federal Government, UAW retirement healthcare fund, and the Canadian Government.

Sorry...you don't qualify!!!! TOO BAD! Thanks for your update on ownership that everyone knows.



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They don't have law enforcement capabilities.  And yes, it's at the presidents request, and without judicial oversight.  An FBI wanted fugitives list requires a grand jury indictment, unlike the president'a capute or kill list, that is at his own discretion.(maybe you think the FBI should just start making kill lists without judicial oversight)

One more time, the CIA has no law enforcement capabilities.  Al Awlaki was not killed because he violated a law, that would require criminal charges.  He was killed by the CIA, an agency that does not enforce laws.  

It was never the intention to "apprehend" Al Awlaki like you claimed, but to capture or kill him, based on the sole decision of the Obama Administration.

This wasn't a SWAT raid, not even close.  He was on a kill list for 1 year.  One year is hardly imminent danger.

How many people did he kill in that year??? I don't know either, if the answer is none, it wasn't because he
wasn't trying.
How many Yemeni missions were there to CAPTURE your BFFFL?
I know hat there were several (likely aided by the CIA) and their conclusion was that the mission
was too dangerous and would likely lead to many casualties and the likelyhood of success was
minimal.

How many attempts to capture this terrorist will probably never be known.  The CIA doesn't publish
much and especially not their failures.  

Cicero believing that this mission was illegal is irelivant.  Ignoring Al awalki is as big a mistake as
ignoring Osama BinLaden.  


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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How many Yemeni missions were there to CAPTURE your BFFFL?
I know hat there were several (likely aided by the CIA) and their conclusion was that the mission
was too dangerous and would likely lead to many casualties and the likelyhood of success was
minimal.

How many attempts to capture this terrorist will probably never be known.  The CIA doesn't publish
much and especially not their failures.  

Cicero believing that this mission was illegal is irelivant.  Ignoring Al awalki is as big a mistake as
ignoring Osama BinLaden.  


What does then Senator Obama think about the Constitutionality of capturing a US citizens without charges, shall we?

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Question: Does the Constitution permit a president to detain US citizens without charges as unlawful enemy combatants?

Obama: No. I reject the Bush Administration's claim that the President has plenary authority under the Constitution to detain U.S. citizens without charges as unlawful enemy combatants.

Hmmmm...But Obama put a US Citizen on a CAPTURE or kill list for 18 months without criminal charges.  Ohhhh...He rejects the Bush Administration claim, not the Obama Administrations claim.  Makes perfect sense.


http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/specials/CandidateQA/ObamaQA/


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Sorry...you don't qualify!!!! TOO BAD! Thanks for your update on ownership that everyone knows.



I would never by a GM.  Even with your discount, it's overpriced junk.


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I like this one, it shows the USG has been at war for 80 out of 100 years.  Is that something to be proud of?


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What does then Senator Obama think about the Constitutionality of capturing a US citizens without charges, shall we?


Hmmmm...But Obama put a US Citizen on a CAPTURE or kill list for 18 months without criminal charges.  Ohhhh...He rejects the Bush Administration claim, not the Obama Administrations claim.  Makes perfect sense.
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If the terrorist could have been "detained" he would have been charged.  detaining him was not possible.


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... detaining him was not possible.


So, absolutely impossible?

Or more inconvenient?



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I like this one, it shows the USG has been at war for 80 out of 100 years.  Is that something to be proud of?

I'm proud to support and respect every serviceman that served during
each of those conflicts and in times of peace before, in-between and since.



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If the terrorist could have been "detained" he would have been charged.  detaining him was not possible.


Who was detaining him and for what charge?  An agency that doesn't have authority to enforce laws - CIA or Military?  Was the FBI involved and Al Awlaki under criminal investigation?  I know he was under criminal investigation in 1999, and found nothing, no evidence of terrorism.

Box, he was on a capture or kill list for 18 months, why didn't the state bring charges against him during that time?


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If the terrorist could have been "detained" he would have been charged.  detaining him was not possible.


That's not true, we knew of his position for weeks before the drone strike. Also there was no attempt to bring him in so saying it was to dangerous is a lie, there was never an attempt. He might of been a scumbag but even scumbags are supposed to get constitutional protections, those protections were bypassed by some secret panel, that's not the America I want to be apart of.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Since when did the Constitution ever stop Obama from doing what he wanted?
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