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Actually, it is a very good concept in a number of aspects --
1) it is mixed use so that the developer is not "putting all the eggs in one basket,"  
2) it is tying the river/waterfront to the city which has proven to be a very popular and successful approach in many cities around the world -- not just across the country,
c) it is finding a new use for a long vacant, underutilized urban brownfield -- that is certainly a winning situation for everyone -- expanded tax base, attracting middle and upper income families to live IN the city and attracting out-of-towners to come into the city to spend money.
d) the proposed development is located in a way that can't help but provide an economic uplift to the adjoining neighborhoods -- the North End, College Park and the Stockade as well as the whole Erie Blvd corridor.


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Actually, it is a very good concept in a number of aspects --
1) it is mixed use so that the developer is not "putting all the eggs in one basket,"  
2) it is tying the river/waterfront to the city which has proven to be a very popular and successful approach in many cities around the world -- not just across the country,
c) it is finding a new use for a long vacant, underutilized urban brownfield -- that is certainly a winning situation for everyone -- expanded tax base, attracting middle and upper income families to live IN the city and attracting out-of-towners to come into the city to spend money.
d) the proposed development is located in a way that can't help but provide an economic uplift to the adjoining neighborhoods -- the North End, College Park and the Stockade as well as the whole Erie Blvd corridor.



SPEWING NONSENSE BABBLE AGAING

Families are NOT going to move INTO the city and that is the ACTUAL, UNAVOIDABLE, INCONTROVERTIBLE TRUTH.  
The ACTUAL, UNAVOIDABLE, INCONTROVERTIBLE TRUTH is that this will NOT expand the tax base because it is Galesi land which will be TAX EXAMPPT.  

The ACTUAL, UNAVOIDABLE, INCONTROVERTIBLE TRUTH is that 10 years of wild uncontrolled spending on downtown has NOT resulted in an expanded tax base, but rather has caused a MASSIVE REDUCTION in the tax base and remember the official the evidence direct from the images of actual pages of the tax rolls.  

More of the same will just continue to destroy the city.

Outside of "shiny new buildlings" downtown all done at taxpayer expenses has caused the rest of the city---the places where people actually live--to become a see of blight and crime.

The dems only cater only to their rich political cronies, your buddy dems hike the taxes on the financially struggling homeowners and intelligent people, and those political cronies refuse to come anywhere near the city to live.


Hey, DV, why to you avoid leaving IN the city???????    You REFUSE to answer that----why?






Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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Actually, it is a very good concept in a number of aspects --
1) it is mixed use so that the developer is not "putting all the eggs in one basket,"  
2) it is tying the river/waterfront to the city which has proven to be a very popular and successful approach in many cities around the world -- not just across the country,
c) it is finding a new use for a long vacant, underutilized urban brownfield -- that is certainly a winning situation for everyone -- expanded tax base, attracting middle and upper income families to live IN the city and attracting out-of-towners to come into the city to spend money.
d) the proposed development is located in a way that can't help but provide an economic uplift to the adjoining neighborhoods -- the North End, College Park and the Stockade as well as the whole Erie Blvd corridor.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
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Lyndon Baines Johnson
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Quoted from sanfordy2
it could just be schenectadys first gated community?


the hill is 'gated'....like Escape From NY......

where is Snake Pliskin when you need him?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Big deal... another Price Chopper and a crap-job apartment complex brought to you by the DSS crumbling Galesi group.

So...will Galesi need to pay flood insurance on this location?

Ask anyone in the Stockade how the flood insurance premiums are bankrupting them.

Good thing Metroplex is allowing Galesi not to pay taxes on the ALCO location until it yields a 'return'. Wouldn't want to make Galesi an honest entity....
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Good thing Metroplex is allowing Galesi not to pay taxes on the ALCO location until it yields a 'return'. Wouldn't want to make Galesi an honest entity....


It's a level playing field...any millionare in Schenectady could get that "legal" tax exemption in the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars.  But hey, let's blame the landlord that puts a few thousand bucks in his/her pocket.  

Ya see, if you invest $50k in residential property and it is losing value by the week because of the blight, and you do not pay your $6k tax bill, you are a "deadbeat"...if you can afford to invest millions of dollars to develop property and make the right campaign contributions to the crooks in government, they will EXEMPT you from paying hundreds of thousands in property taxes - and you are the HERO and SAVOIR of Schenectady.

People listen to rich people and pray for poor people.  That is Schenectady in a nutshell.


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lets put a fake harbor in upstate ny  - sound like lets have paddle boats in center city  

lets build residences and areas people frequent on brownfields - remember Love canal, even the building projects at malta are dodging rocket fuel

at least the place and residents will have a healthy glow - tooo bad I will have to pay for it
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And when it is stated the area will be "cleaned up" will one be able to have a picnic on the ground or will children be allowed to play in the dirt?   Always been mystified by the phrase "clean up" as it relates to polluted sites.   Like as if the site is cleaned up with such simplicity like when one spills something on the kitchen floor and wiped up with a cleaner/paper towel.   It surely cannot be 100% guaranteed clean or do the leftover pollutants just harm you over a longer period of time with a lower dose of exposure.
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Quoted from exit3
lets put a fake harbor in upstate ny  - sound like lets have paddle boats in center city  

lets build residences and areas people frequent on brownfields - remember Love canal, even the building projects at malta are dodging rocket fuel

at least the place and residents will have a healthy glow - tooo bad I will have to pay for it


You are obviously "out of the loop" when it comes to trends in urban redevelopment and even the use of the English language.  
First, it would not be a "fake harbor" -- it would be a real -- Schenectady and other upstate communities had active REAL harbors for many decades.  Schenectady actually for a few centuries -- beginning in Colonial times and going on up through the the 2nd decade of the 20th century (when the old canal was filled in).
Second - brownfields can and have been safely cleaned up .. and put to new uses.

The utter ignorance of the nayboobs is overwhelming.  And yet THEY have the nerve to attack teachers and the public school system.  Judging by their posts, the nayboobs must have pulled their education from a dinosaur's a**.


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brownfields can and have been safely cleaned up .. and put to new uses.


ever hear of NL industries in colonie? most of us that lived in that neighborhood for any length of time either has cancer and/or other health problems...yet the "clean up"continues..    


http://nysbcsen.org/health-studies-investigate-uranium-exposures-from-colonies-nl-industries-plant/
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Quoted from sanfordy2


ever hear of NL industries in colonie? most of us that lived in that neighborhood for any length of time either has cancer and/or other health problems...yet the "clean up"continues..    


http://nysbcsen.org/health-studies-investigate-uranium-exposures-from-colonies-nl-industries-plant/


Galesi, Gillen and family should be the first to move in to Galesi Harbor.  You know, to lead by example of how safe the property is.  


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There's a lot of PCB's in the ALCO soil from transformer oil as well as some agent orange which also carries them.
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So...will Galesi need to pay flood insurance on this location?

Ask anyone in the Stockade how the flood insurance premiums are bankrupting them.

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Of course he will NOT have to pay flood insurance.  The city/county/plex dems will make sure that the financially struggling homeowners in the city pay the premium through their taxes.

Or the city/county/plex dems will set it up so Galesi's premium will be paid by increasing the flood insurance premiums of the Stockade residents, ON TOP OF THE INCREASES they are already being burdened with because of claims.

Let's see what the FAILED insurance man on these boards, cheerleader for the dems, says about insurance.  


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Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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Galesi, Gillen and family should be the first to move in to Galesi Harbor.  You know, to lead by example of how safe the property is.  


huh,a better chance at a tax reduction than that happening "EVER"
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Quoted from sanfordy2


ever hear of NL industries in colonie? most of us that lived in that neighborhood for any length of time either has cancer and/or other health problems...yet the "clean up"continues..    


http://nysbcsen.org/health-studies-investigate-uranium-exposures-from-colonies-nl-industries-plant/


Yes. I have heard of it.  Those health issues predated the efforts to clean it up.  And yes, the clean up continues.  
That does not refute the FACT that MANY brownfield sites have been successfully cleaned up and redeveloped ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
The harbor proposal with casino, hotel, retail/offices, condos and a movie studio is still a very good concept.   It certainly should be thoroughly reviewed - SEQR, etc.  Then after all the due diligence is done, it will either be approved or not approved.  Personally, I am hoping that everything works out so that it is approved and completed.  It has the potential to  have a HUGE positive impact on the City-County of Schenectady.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
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