Box I agree that she should have had the guns secure no matter who lived in her house.
I did not know that AL was a known mental patient? Explain Because again you are throwing a lot of blame on the mother, but not saying anything about the government/FBI inaction on the Ft. Hood killer.
And I disagree MOST gun owners do keep their guns secure. The gun owners who don't especially with children in the house are negligent/stupid.
But again legislation will not change this. Can't legislate evil or stupid.
There have been drunk driving laws for years, and people still get in their cars drunk,
Box I agree that she should have had the guns secure no matter who lived in her house.
I did not know that AL was a known mental patient? Explain
Adam Lanza had a history of mental illness for years. "According to the police files, Adam Lanza "displayed a profound autism spectrum disorder with rigidity, isolation and a lack of comprehension of ordinary social interaction and communications." Lanza was also diagnosed with obsessive compulsive disorder".
All guns should be secure, especially when there are living in a house with mental patients, felons, or those under an order of protection... That's why I support this part of SAFE ACT!
Your post has many subjects. I will continue.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Because again you are throwing a lot of blame on the mother, but not saying anything about the government/FBI inaction on the Ft. Hood killer.
Ft Hood has nothing to do with my post, My discussion was about the SAFE ACT and how it could help prevent or reduce shootings.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
And I disagree MOST gun owners do keep their guns secure. The gun owners who don't especially with children in the house are negligent/stupid.
YES! These gun owners who don't secure their guns are both negligent and stupid and the SAFE ACT would make them criminally negligent and held accountable for their negligence/stupidity.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
But again legislation will not change this. Can't legislate evil or stupid.
There have been drunk driving laws for years, and people still get in their cars drunk,
Do you suggest that we eliminate Drunk Driving Laws? In my lifetime Drunk Driving Laws have cut the number of DWI deaths dramatically. (See "mothers against drunk drivers")
We can't legislate evil or stupid... so do we just surrender to evil/stupid and erase all laws... DWI laws work. They don't totally eliminate the problem, but they do reduce DWI deaths, and they do punish and take DWI criminals off the road. Similarly, SAFE ACT laws cannot eliminate all gun deaths, but they can reduce the number and punish those who are irresponsible.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
BTW, the reason that those 1st graders died from their wounds is because [/b]non criminal Mrs Lanza, owned 30 round magazines and her [b]non criminal son shot most of the victims multiple times... Some of those 6 and 7 year olds were shot 11 times each.
You put blame on the gun not Lanza and we are supposed to take you seriously, should we blame your M-16 for the people you killed or should we place blame on the mindset of you for committing that act. Most sane people understand that only a twisted sick person or a brainwashed person would kill for no reason or because he was ordered to do so, where do you fall under.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Box Autism is not a mental illness As for OCD many have compulsions, like obsessive handwashing etc. They have never said if AL showed any violent tendencies. I still say yes the mother should have had the guns locked up. Actually maybe she did and he found the key/combination? Could medications be an issue? We will never know. But we do know many innocent lifes taken
Ms Lanza was a 'law abiding citizen', yet she didn't secure her guns with a known mental patient living in her home. The SAFE ACT requires that "law abiding citizens" secure their guns. Common Sense is not a major personality trait of most GunHuggers, and had Mrs Lanza, a GunHugger, had any "COMMON SENSE" her guns would have been secured.
Do you disagree with this part of the law???
Washing your hands after using the bathroom is common sense. Should there be a law to enforce it, all in the name of "public safety"?
Ft Hood has nothing to do with my post, My discussion was about the SAFE ACT and how it could help prevent or reduce shootings.
So the government can live by a different sat of rules?????? They have an army pyschologist who was known to be in contact with terrorists and others reported they were uncomfortable with things he said but that was OK? Because he was a soldier????
You put blame on the gun not Lanza and we are supposed to take you seriously, should we blame your M-16 for the people you killed or should we place blame on the mindset of you for committing that act. Most sane people understand that only a twisted sick person or a brainwashed person would kill for no reason or because he was ordered to do so, where do you fall under.
Henry keeps posting "words" that don't meet his "political agenda". If Henry thinks that gun purchasers should go through background checks to help screen out mental illness... THEN HE SHOULD STEP UP AND SUPPORT THE SAFE ACT AND OTHER BACKGROUND CHECK GUN LAWS!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
You put blame on the gun not Lanza and we are supposed to take you seriously, should we blame your M-16 for the people you killed or should we place blame on the mindset of you for committing that act. Most sane people understand that only a twisted sick person or a brainwashed person would kill for no reason or because he was ordered to do so, where do you fall under.
I don't blame the weapon for the crime... but I do blame the availability of these weapons for the increased casualties when these crimes occur. Picture Adam Lanza with a musket.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
THEN HE SHOULD STEP UP AND SUPPORT THE SAFE ACT AND OTHER BACKGROUND CHECK GUN LAWS!
I don't mind background checks box, as long as it doesn't infringe on private sales. The safe act targets the guns already in the hands of law abiding citizens nothing more. It doesn't stop the illegal flow of illegal guns, if anything more guns are being pumped into this state because demand has increased. However you know this already yet you try to ignore it by calling it "common sense laws". If it was common sense then our politicians shouldn't of been scared to let the people know about it before passing it in the dead of night.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
I don't mind background checks box, as long as it doesn't infringe on private sales. The safe act targets the guns already in the hands of law abiding citizens nothing more. It doesn't stop the illegal flow of illegal guns, if anything more guns are being pumped into this state because demand has increased. However you know this already yet you try to ignore it by calling it "common sense laws". If it was common sense then our politicians shouldn't of been scared to let the people know about it before passing it in the dead of night.
Common sense??? you don't mind 'background checks' as long as we leave a loophole so the mentally ill can still buy your gun in a private sale.
Put up a sign... "THE MENTALLY ILL CAN BUY ALL THE GUNS THEY WANT AT HENRY'S!!!" All major credit cards accepted!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Common sense??? you don't mind 'background checks' as long as we leave a loophole so the mentally ill can still buy your gun in a private sale.
Put up a sign... "THE MENTALLY ILL CAN BUY ALL THE GUNS THEY WANT AT HENRY'S!!!" All major credit cards accepted!
Nope I wouldn't sell a gun to anybody I don't know personally, it would have to be a very close friend or a family member. I sold, traded, and gave as gifts guns to family and friends, I don't need the government to tell me what kind of people they are. Are you going to make your kids or best friend you knew for decades go through a background check for your rifles, I doubt it.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Nope I wouldn't sell a gun to anybody I don't know personally, it would have to be a very close friend or a family member. I sold, traded, and gave as gifts guns to family and friends, I don't need the government to tell me what kind of people they are. Are you going to make your kids or best friend you knew for decades go through a background check for your rifles, I doubt it.
I want anyone who buys a gun to have a background check. You want to be able to sell your crazy uncle Harry a gun, even though he's bat$hit crazy. Crazy uncle Harry is a fun guy... ya just couldn't say no to Crazy Uncle Harry.
What Henry's is asking for is that anyone who owns a gun, can decide who buys his guns... if that gun owner is a drug dealer, mentally ill or 'he really needs the money" he can sell his guns to anyone he wants.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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