Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
Kindergartner at wrong school all day
Rotterdam NY...the people's voice    Rotterdam's Virtual Internet Community    Outside Rotterdam  ›  Kindergartner at wrong school all day Moderators: Admin
Users Browsing Forum
No Members and 249 Guests

Kindergartner at wrong school all day  This thread currently has 1,297 views. |
4 Pages « 1 2 3 4 » Recommend Thread
DemocraticVoiceOfReason
March 14, 2014, 8:48pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
12,321
Reputation
20.83%
Reputation Score
+10 / -38
Time Online
151 days 7 hours 5 minutes
At least one local news broadcast stated that the girl got on the wrong bus, the "wrong bus" had a substitute driver that day and that the "wrong school" was expecting a new student that day.
That doesn't excuse the school not figuring out that the child was NOT at the right school.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
Logged
Private Message Reply: 15 - 51
joebxr
March 15, 2014, 6:48am Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
6,667
Reputation
70.00%
Reputation Score
+14 / -6
Time Online
276 days 6 hours 18 minutes
got on the wrong bus
substitute bus driver
school expecting new student
How coincidental......and hard to believe that all those "coincidents" happened to align
in this case.....
and if school was expecting new student, how could they overlook "2" new students...
and didn't any teacher in the classes she went to notice she didn't belong, either?
Too many screws ups in this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
Logged
Private Message Reply: 16 - 51
senders
March 15, 2014, 7:01am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
29,348
Reputation
70.97%
Reputation Score
+22 / -9
Time Online
1574 days 2 hours 22 minutes
Quoted from MOONGLOW
A suggestion.    Possibly have photo IDS on a necklace or wrist bracelets with scanable ID chip.   I know this may sound like "big brother", but it may prevent a future "misplacement" of a child.


this is wrong in so many ways......sad....like a lost dog being found.....kids will trust technology over humans....dangerous
precedent to set for generations to come.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 17 - 51
senders
March 15, 2014, 7:03am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
29,348
Reputation
70.97%
Reputation Score
+22 / -9
Time Online
1574 days 2 hours 22 minutes
time to get rid of the state babysitter and teach our own kids....

brick and mortar are becoming passe as are jobs that pay enough to support the brick and mortar babysitters


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 18 - 51
imsipps
March 15, 2014, 7:16am Report to Moderator
Full Member
Posts
210
Reputation
75.00%
Reputation Score
+3 / -1
Time Online
24 days 21 hours 18 minutes
Quoted from MOONGLOW
A suggestion.    Possibly have photo IDS on a necklace or wrist bracelets with scanable ID chip.   I know this may sound like "big brother", but it may prevent a future "misplacement" of a child.


In an interview on ch13 yesterday, the super said that was the direction they would be going.


I'm an enigma, even to myself.



Logged
Private Message Reply: 19 - 51
Parent
March 15, 2014, 7:29am Report to Moderator
Sr. Member
Posts
449
Reputation
100.00%
Reputation Score
+6 / -0
Time Online
38 days 1 hours 26 minutes
Yes, get id's for kindergarteners and then cut kindergarten all together. Makes a lot of sense. They could have just followed the policies in place, or parents could not put their kid on the wrong bus, or children can be taught to tell people their real names....  There really isn't the need for additional costs to prevent this from happening again.
Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 20 - 51
mikechristine1
March 15, 2014, 8:23am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
9,074
Reputation
71.88%
Reputation Score
+23 / -9
Time Online
99 days 18 hours 36 minutes
At least one local news broadcast stated that the girl got on the wrong bus, the "wrong bus" had a substitute driver that day and that the "wrong school" was expecting a new student that day.
That doesn't excuse the school not figuring out that the child was NOT at the right school.



What would you know?   You are not a parent and you never will be so you have no understanding of what is expected in this situation.

Wrong bus or not, new student or not, DV, the answer lies in the fact that the school did NOT call s Rodriguez to inquire why her child was not at school.  DUH!  

Remember, this is the school district in the city you claim to love and cheer for and think is in a renaissance, this is the city you claim is so wonderful that you won't buy a house in, you won't even remotely consider renting an apartment in in the city.





Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
Logged
Private Message Reply: 21 - 51
Madam X
March 15, 2014, 11:04am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
3,190
Reputation
66.67%
Reputation Score
+8 / -4
Time Online
26 days 9 hours 21 minutes
I really don't understand a little girl of that age not telling someone who she was and where she went to school, but who knows what she was thinking? This didn't happen when we didn't have the unnecessary busing all over of the kids. I noticed a while back where a school official tried to say that we went to busing to "keep them safe", but the truth is that busing creates all kinds of safety issues.
It is the school's responsibility to call when a child is absent, it appears that there was a substantial delay in this case, for the mother to have believed that her child was at school all morning.
I hope the little girl enjoyed her adventure.
Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 22 - 51
DemocraticVoiceOfReason
March 15, 2014, 3:01pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
12,321
Reputation
20.83%
Reputation Score
+10 / -38
Time Online
151 days 7 hours 5 minutes
Quoted from Madam X
I really don't understand a little girl of that age not telling someone who she was and where she went to school, but who knows what she was thinking? This didn't happen when we didn't have the unnecessary busing all over of the kids. I noticed a while back where a school official tried to say that we went to busing to "keep them safe", but the truth is that busing creates all kinds of safety issues.
It is the school's responsibility to call when a child is absent, it appears that there was a substantial delay in this case, for the mother to have believed that her child was at school all morning.
I hope the little girl enjoyed her adventure.


Before the city schools had to bus the children -- children either WALKED to school or were driven by their parents.  When I was in school, I walked to school like most of the other students did.  We walked 3 miles EACH way to and from elementary school and a little over 2 miles EACH way to and from high school.  
Walking -- there is such a greater potential for students getting lost, hit by cars or other mishaps.  No one in their right mind would ever suggest that walking to school is SAFER than riding a school bus.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
Logged
Private Message Reply: 23 - 51
Madam X
March 15, 2014, 3:41pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
3,190
Reputation
66.67%
Reputation Score
+8 / -4
Time Online
26 days 9 hours 21 minutes
I would suggest that, because we did not have these kinds of mix-ups when kids walked, and we had crossing guards, and we didn't have the horrendous and dangerous congestion outside the schools we have now. "Potential", there you go again, predicting future events, except the facts as to what happened back when we walked doesn't bear that out. BTW, as someone who grew up in MP, I know you are lying about how far you walked to school.
Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 24 - 51
Parent
March 15, 2014, 4:42pm Report to Moderator
Sr. Member
Posts
449
Reputation
100.00%
Reputation Score
+6 / -0
Time Online
38 days 1 hours 26 minutes
3 miles? Where did you live? Can't be schenectady; there aren't any neighborhoods that are three miles from an elementary school.
Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 25 - 51
Madam X
March 15, 2014, 5:06pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
3,190
Reputation
66.67%
Reputation Score
+8 / -4
Time Online
26 days 9 hours 21 minutes
Yes, especially back then when DVOR was in school. That's why we called them neighborhood schools, they were in your own neighborhood.
Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 26 - 51
mikechristine1
March 15, 2014, 7:21pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
9,074
Reputation
71.88%
Reputation Score
+23 / -9
Time Online
99 days 18 hours 36 minutes
Quoted from Parent
3 miles? Where did you live? Can't be schenectady; there aren't any neighborhoods that are three miles from an elementary school.


DV has NEVER walked two or three miles to school !!!!!!!!!!

From his very own fingers:


Quoted Text
Saint Mary's Prep, Orchard Lake, MI
1976 – 1978
Class of 1980


Mont Pleasant High School, Schenectady, NY
1978 – 1980
Class of 1980



Now we also have to remember this that DV posted:


Words from DV on Feb 5, 2011
I remember the "thunder snow" storm we had on Christmas Eve in the mid 1970's.  

Good thing, my Mom and us kids were living on Lansing Street at the time -- we had at least a couple dozen relatives and friends stay over until the plows came through in the morning..



Words from DV on February 24, 2014
I don't remember which year although it had to be sometime between 1974 and 1978.



Based on the Feb 24 post, which he writes 1974-1978, but we know he was not even in this state in 76 to 78.  And he says he was on Lansing St in the "mid-1970's."

Yes, back then, in Schenectady there were neighborhood schools, if he went to public school he would have attended Steinmetz Jr High (or middle school). and from Lansing St to Steinmetz is LESS THAN ONE MILE!

And even if he tries to say he was on Lansing while attending MPHS, that STILL is LESS THAN ONE MILE.


Just so full of BS, (just like his buddy the ex mayor of BS).


And those of us who are intelligent remember how the elimination of neighborhood schools came about.  The earliest days were closing schools very close together, e.g., Nott Terrace closed and that was only a few blocks from Elmer Ave for example.

But beyond the apparent financial issues for closing schools and fewer students, then the district got into all this dem party screaming that  school district (many public schools in general) are racist because people of one race CHOSE to live in certain neighborhoods so of course some schools would have a high population of students of one race.  So then the school district over time did the magnet schools stuff, merged the high school to avoid the north and south sides of I think State St which kind of was that line of white students and black students.  And look now how there are the attendance zones and the crap about 'feeder schools," etc.  Schools close, schools re-open, they keep changing the mix of grade levels, middle schools vs junior high, etc.


Years ago kids went to neighborhood schools and NO, DV is WRONG WRONG WRONG that the buses were needed because kids might get hit by a car - total BS.   Two reasons why buses started getting used is the schools were sending kids to school across the city so to speak.  Like take a who lives in Bellevue near the Rotterdam line and send them all the way the heck over to Oneida M.S.  Of course the schools had to provide transportation.

But the other, and more important reason, for carting kids by bus is the extremely dangerous neighborhoods in the city and the possibility of sex offenders around (remember, before the registry).

So, this all corrects DV's claims why kids take buses and his fairy tale fairy tale that he walked 2 or 3 miles (he needs to walk that many miles today).


But along with the starting to use buses within the city to transport kids, that transport resulted in much higher taxes because the taxpayers had to pay for the transportation.   Now remember this, DV claims consolidating all the school districts will save money but of course all of us who are intelligent know that's not true because the numbers of buses will increase, the mileage on the buses will be much more when kids from western Rotterdam are bused to Nisky, and kids from the hill are bused to Glenville, etc. etc.  But that's really another issue.


Certainly there can be substitute drivers from time to time so the mother can't really be faulted because I'm sure the district can't notify ever parent before the buses come that the regular driver had a family emergency.  

The fault lies in the failure of the school, where Rodriguez' daughter attended, to telephone Ms Rodriguez to ask where her daughter is, why isn't her daughter in school.  

But this Mr Spring (buddy of the mayor and surely of Kosiur) tries to blame the child making it seem like this was major identity theft!


Now, that all said, Joebxr mentioned the coincidence of all of this happening at the same time.  Could it have been a joint effort to do something to create a problem and start a lawsuit?  It's remotely possible, but so far Ms Rodriguez seems to have said she wants no money from any thought of suing, the news said she just wanted a lawsuit to change things so it doesn't happen again, but I will agree there is the remote possibility, though I think if that was a cooked up plan, the lies would come out rather quickly, kind of like how we see and can prove the lies of the board's dem cheerleader.






Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
Logged
Private Message Reply: 27 - 51
DemocraticVoiceOfReason
March 15, 2014, 7:38pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
12,321
Reputation
20.83%
Reputation Score
+10 / -38
Time Online
151 days 7 hours 5 minutes
Quoted from Madam X
I would suggest that, because we did not have these kinds of mix-ups when kids walked, and we had crossing guards, and we didn't have the horrendous and dangerous congestion outside the schools we have now. "Potential", there you go again, predicting future events, except the facts as to what happened back when we walked doesn't bear that out. BTW, as someone who grew up in MP, I know you are lying about how far you walked to school.


First - It doesn't matter where YOU lived - when I was going to elementary school, my family lived for about half of those years on the NORTH end of the city and we (my siblings and I) did walk 3 miles to school in the morning and three miles home.  The years that I attended Mont Pleasant High School, my family lived in Bellevue and it was a two mile walk to and from school.

Second - I was speaking of the past when the city school district did NOT have buses  ... so I was NOT predicting future events.   Furthermore, there was as much traffic on the roads to and from school --- and by the schools.  Finally - are you willing to bet that NO students were ever injured or placed in unsafe situations - in the past - when they had to walk to school?  

So again- I repeat -  No one in their right mind would ever argue that walking to school is safer than riding a bus.  


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
Logged
Private Message Reply: 28 - 51
Parent
March 15, 2014, 9:19pm Report to Moderator
Sr. Member
Posts
449
Reputation
100.00%
Reputation Score
+6 / -0
Time Online
38 days 1 hours 26 minutes
I still don't see how that is three miles. The north side of Schenectady has (since the 50s) had several elementary schools within a mile and a half.
Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 29 - 51
4 Pages « 1 2 3 4 » Recommend Thread
|

Rotterdam NY...the people's voice    Rotterdam's Virtual Internet Community    Outside Rotterdam  ›  Kindergartner at wrong school all day

Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread