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As we come to the end of a year that saw revelations about massive government spying programs, horrifying stories of police abuse, and brazen violations of the Fourth Amendment, I thought I might offer my own grim predictions about where civil liberties are headed in the coming year. Sure, some of these may seem outlandish. But to borrow from H.L. Mencken, nobody ever went broke underestimating the grade and lubriciousness of the slippery slope.

So I predict the following for 2014:

1. Not content with their current powers to employ drug dogs and dubious accusations to engage in asset forfeiture shakedowns of motorists, some states will pass laws making it illegal to have a space in your car where drugs could possibly be hidden, regardless of whether or not you've actually hidden any drugs in those spaces.

2. Also on the forfeiture front: Taking the private prison idea one step further, prosecutors will begin hiring private security firms to pull over motorists in order to seize property for the local government. And they'll get to keep a cut of what they take.

3. Now that they've turned America's cities into surveillance societies, city officials will incredibly claim, incredibly, that using similar cameras to prevent abuse by law enforcement officers would be a violation of police officers' civil rights.

4. Big Brother will begin watching you in toilet stalls -- in order to prevent you from having illegal public sex in them.

5. Governments at all levels will start using license plate scanners to keep lists of who attends protests, political rallies, advocacy group meetings and -- yes -- even worship services.

6. It may soon become a crime merely to be in the general area where police believe other people are committing crimes.

7. It will become a crime for the police to mistakenly shoot at you while you are unarmed -- and not a crime by the police, but a crime by you.

8. College campus SWAT teams will begin protecting themselves against land mines. Not because there are any landmines on college campuses. Just because. Also, college campuses will have their own SWAT teams.

9. Speaking of SWAT teams, the police will begin using them to enforce zoning laws and property codes. In fact, in some places, the police will begin using SWAT teams to serve all felony search warrants, regardless of the crime.

10. The government will spy on you through that little camera hole in your laptop.

11. Zero tolerance policies in schools will reach new heights in absurdity, as children are suspended for using imaginary weapons.

12. Judges will start issuing warrants based on predictions of future crimes.

13. Local governments will ban people from growing food on their own property, for their own consumption.

14. Police will finally give up any pretense about "protect and serve," and just explicitly declare that they are now soldiers, and American neighborhoods are "battlefields."

15. Some states will begin paying allegedly independent crime lab analysts based on how many convictions they help prosecutors to win.


16. College kids suspected of underage drinking will be treated as if they were violent felons who had just escaped from prison.

17. Law enforcement officers will prey on the mentally disabled, tricking or coercing them into becoming pawns for gun or drug stings, then arresting them for it.

18. NSA records will be utilized by law enforcement agencies for purposes that have nothing to do with national security -- like drug investigations. The government will then destroy any records showing how those investigations actually began.

19. So long as they can plausibly claim that they're looking for a suspected cop killer, the police will basically be given carte blanche to open fire on innocent people.

20. Taking videos of your young kids playing in the bath will be cause for prosecutors to bring child pornography charges against you, effectively ruining your life and ending your career.


So as you've probably guessed by now -- especially if you clicked on the links -- the gag here is that none of these are actually predictions. They all happened in 2013. (A couple in 2012.)

I will make one real prediction for 2014: It's probably going to get worse.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....?utm_hp_ref=politics
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I was reading the list and thinking to myself these are already taking place, I also agree on his real prediction.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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I wonder if the Right will continue it's "war on women" and their attempt to force pregnant women
to give birth...

One giant step for the Right would be to accept total financial responsibility for that unwanted pregnancy
and any resulting children born from their policy.
If they really consider a zygote to be a person... they they have a responsibility to fund that "UNBORN" child's
life and needs, clothing, food, education etc etc etc.

However my guess, they will still force women to give birth... then abandon those women AND
the child that they forced to be born.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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war on women, as real as the war on Christmas


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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war on women, as real as the war on Christmas


A good analogy...
Is anyone being forced to celebrate REPUBLICAN Christmas???
Because there are women being forced top complete REPUBLICAN Pregnancies!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Because there are women being forced top complete REPUBLICAN Pregnancies!


Forced by who, the GOVERNMENT?  


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Forced by who, the GOVERNMENT?  


No.  By right winger fanatics


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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No.  By right winger fanatics


oh, ok...Phew!  I thought the government was forcing something you didn't like.  I was going to tell you to move to Somalia.


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oh, ok...Phew!  I thought the government was forcing something you didn't like.  I was going to tell you to move to Somalia.


Did you buy your tickets yet?


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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oh, ok...Phew!  I thought the government was forcing something you didn't like.  I was going to tell you to move to Somalia.


Today you are striking out at every opportunity.  Still getting it wrong!

If you can make room in your already indoctrinated brain for a 'new idea'... I posted that when there
is an issue with our govt, my preferred approach would be to help solve that problem, not run away
from it to Somalia or hide in your cellar on Election Day.

Since you've given up on the USA, The Constitution and voting, my suggestion was to seek
happiness in a country with little or no govt.  Somalia seemed appropriate!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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WOW.........and this list came from the HUFFINGTON POST???? OMG!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Today you are striking out at every opportunity.  Still getting it wrong!

If you can make room in your already indoctrinated brain for a 'new idea'... I posted that when there
is an issue with our govt, my preferred approach would be to help solve that problem, not run away
from it to Somalia or hide in your cellar on Election Day.

Since you've given up on the USA, The Constitution and voting, my suggestion was to seek
happiness in a country with little or no govt.  Somalia seemed appropriate!


Let's take what you said box.  You said:

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A good analogy...
Is anyone being forced to celebrate REPUBLICAN Christmas???
Because there are women being forced top complete REPUBLICAN Pregnancies!


If your wife was pregnant and she wanted an abortion, and if what you say is true, that women are force to complete REPUBLICAN Pregnancies...would you obey the law and "complete the REPUBLICAN Pregnancy", and wait for the next election to vote those nasty republicans out of office?  Just curious.

Or was your post just hyperbole, and you just don't want to admit the "war on women" was a fabricated Democrat campaign narrative.


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Let's take what you said box.  You said:



If your wife was pregnant and she wanted an abortion, and if what you say is true, that women are force to complete REPUBLICAN Pregnancies...would you obey the law and "complete the REPUBLICAN Pregnancy", and wait for the next election to vote those nasty republicans out of office?  Just curious.

Or was your post just hyperbole, and you just don't want to admit the "war on women" was a fabricated Democrat campaign narrative.


I live in a state where pregnant women are not forced to deliver a baby because some old
Republican white guy says it has to be that way.
But there are many states where abortion has been banned or its locations limited.
(In Ireland a woman who needed an abortion died as a result of a "FORCED BIRTH".)

I have a car to drive thousands of miles if needed to help her provide that service.
Some husbands don't have a car or the means to travel that distance.

I have enough money to afford that service.
Many families don't.

The GOP war on women is doing all it can to circumvent Roe v Wade, and America's women
are paying the price.

I don't support 'choice' because I may need that option personally, I support choice because
it is the right thing to do for all women in this country.




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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I live in a state where pregnant women are not forced to deliver a baby because some old
Republican white guy says it has to be that way.
But there are many states where abortion has been banned or its locations limited.
(In Ireland a woman who needed an abortion died as a result of a "FORCED BIRTH".)

I have a car to drive thousands of miles if needed to help her provide that service.
Some husbands don't have a car or the means to travel that distance.

I have enough money to afford that service.
Many families don't.

The GOP war on women is doing all it can to circumvent Roe v Wade, and America's women
are paying the price.

I don't support 'choice' because I may need that option personally, I support choice because
it is the right thing to do for all women in this country.


Not really clear on your answer.  You would obey the so-called "republican pregnancy" law passed by an elected governing body?


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Obama's track record on defending civil liberties is an embarrassment and a violation of the laws of this country.
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