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joebxr
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LOL...your massacre in Southeast Asia made the sun rise?  Wow!  They really did twist up your heads during boot camp.  There are a few million Vietnames that will never see that sun rise you made happen.  But who cares, they aren't Americans.  They were threaten our way of life.


LOL...you continue to be challenged by simple words and thoughts....comprehension little cissy boy....comprehension!


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I really think your blowing things out of proportion .... Of course some people are going to get killed...the purpose isnt to kill but defend.

Maybe you think people should fight their own battles ? all the time  or most of the time ?


No Vietnamese person that was killed ever committed any crime against the US.

No Iraqis that were killed ever committed any crime against the US.

No Afghanis that were killed by the US ever committed a crime against the US.

Japan bombed a military base.

The US incinerated tens of thousands of civilians using weapons of mass destruction(nukes), twice.

The US killed over half a million civilians in the Vietnamese war.

Take off your patriotic blinders.

War has solved absolutely nothing.

The US military has made the US the most hated country on Earth.

Killing the innocent to force governments to act differently is called terrorism.

The US military uses terrorism as standard operating procedure.

Pro-death supporters cry like babies about gun violence while waving the flag for government sanctioned homicidal manics.

You retards have driven the entire world to the brink of bankruptcy over and over again with useless wars.

There's blood in the streets it's up to my ankles,
Blood in the streets it's up to my knee;
Blood in the streets, the town of Chicago.
Blood in the streets, the town of Detroit.
Blood in the streets, the town of New York.
Blood in the streets, the town of L.A..
Blood in the streets, the town of Miami.
Blood in the streets, the town of Newtown.
Blood in the streets, the town of Philidelphia.
Blood in the streets, the town of St. Louis.
Blood in the streets, the town of Oakland.
Blood in the streets, the town of Schenectady.

The warrior nation.

It's taught to the children every day, by flag waving self justified killers.



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The board wienie and cissy can't understand we are not pro-death and are not trying to
force you to do anything....but you both try to force us into categories to help you
spew your ignorance, ambivalence, rhetoric, bias and hatred.
We try to inform you and provide some sensible guidance in these matters in a minor attempt
to help you so that your dark days of gloom, doom and stupidity might see the light of day instead.

Wake up to a nice breakfast tomorrow, a delicious cup of coffee and a beautiful sunrise....all made possible
for you, in spite of you, and at no personal sacrifice by you!


what's your definition of sacrifice and why is one sacrifice any more important than another?

"poor" folks sacrifice by working at low wage jobs for giant corporations so rich folks and folks with pensions/401K's
can be comfortable.
the pope/priests/cardinals etc sacrifice by not having sex for some obscure religious reason.
homeowners pay their 'fair share' of taxes so that others can get tax discounts.

the list is endless and I'm not sure what your definition of sacrifice is...time? experience?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The board wienie and cissy can't understand we are not pro-death and are not trying to
force you to do anything....but you both try to force us into categories to help you
spew your ignorance, ambivalence, rhetoric, bias and hatred.


Words describing war and the massive innocent deaths it carries with it is not "spewing ignorance, ambivalence, rhetoric, bias and hatred."

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We try to inform you and provide some sensible guidance in these matters in a minor attempt
to help you so that your dark days of gloom, doom and stupidity might see the light of day instead.


You try to make people believe that solving problems through the use of war, killing and destruction have a legitimate purpose, when clearly it has been nothing but an exercise in futility.

You attempt to display these atrocities against mankind to be honorable acts, when they are merely self justifiable homicides.

Your actions during your lifetime and through your words contradict the fact that you are a supporter of death and destruction as a legitimate problem solving tool.

Your words of patriotism, respect and honor come from the same exact place that brotherhood, respect and honor come from, when thrown about by street gangstas.

You breed this type of behavior.

You encourage it.

You cause it.

You are absolutely not pro-life in any way shape or form.

You can deny it til the day you die, but your words and actions speak for themselves.

You can't force people to believe/interpret things as honorable and justifiable.

You can merely teach other killing machines to self justify their homicidal agendas.


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The board wienie and cissy can't understand we are not pro-death ...but you both try to force us into categories to help you
spew your ignorance, ambivalence, rhetoric, bias and hatred.



You are supporters of taking human lives. That is pro-death.

being against taking human lives is pro-life, which is the exact opposite of honoring those who fought, killed, and/or died.

Telling you that you should be ashamed of supporting death is not the use of force on you.

It is an attempt to un-wash your brain.

Supporting the taking of lives, is the use of force that you support.

You completely deny logic.

You can't support taking lives and be pro-life.

That is pro-death.

I'm not even dragging the legal justifications or war crimes against humanity into it.

It's plain and simple.

You support taking and giving lives, you are pro-death.

You are anti war and do not support or honor those that do, and you are pro-life.

Go ahead, make your feeble attempts to justify through the use of semantics.

Winning arguments through wordplay, won't change the facts.

You and box post regularly that being pro-life is spewing hatred and venom.

Box still holds a grudge against the stinking hippies(his words) that demanded the death tolls be stopped.

You pro-deathers are a really angry bunch.

You imagine words of peace are an attack against you.

So let me be clear.

Every time you post words meant to honor or show respect for those who choose to take/give lives, you will always get an equal and opposite reaction.

You can't un-write the laws of physics with guns or clever arguments.

The world is watching.

The days of wholesale killing under color of authority are done.

Attitudes are changing away from the useless "kill our way out of problems", method of restructuring the world.

We will never forget the innocent lives that were taken.

You honor those who took those lives.

Never a word of sorrow or guilt for the taking of those lives.

Just more chest thumping bravado.

Wave the flag.

Kill, kill, kill!

Honor the killers that killed and the killers that died.

Where is the holiday where we remember the half million civilians killed in Vietnam?

The 20,000 civilians killed in Nagasaki and Hiroshima?

Only holidays for the pro-death killers and their courageous sacrifices.

Then the soldiers come home and commit mass suicides.

The active duty soldiers do the same.

They kill more American soldiers than the enemy.

That's all they know.

Blood in the streets across America.

Brought to you by the ganstas that live by honor and respect, as they kill each other daily.

They learned it from the government.

Gun control won't stop it.

Leading by setting an example like Mandela, MLK and Ghandi will stop it.

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Let me be clear.....

You have no idea who I am and what I believe or stand for

You want me to be someone that I am not and you think

You can make it happen with your diatribes

You think you are so above reproach and yet we know the truth

You continue to be wrong with your labels and it pisses you off so

You continue with your labels without regard for the truth


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JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Quoted from Libertarian4life


No Vietnamese person that was killed ever committed any crime against the US.



The Number Of US Citizens killed by VietCong or NVA in Vietnam BEFORE Ground troops
were sent to Vietnam in March of 1965:

Year of Death     
1956 - 1959  4
1960    5
1961   16
1962   53
1963  122
1964  216


Total 416


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Quoted from joebxr
Let me be clear.....

You have no idea who I am and what I believe or stand for

You want me to be someone that I am not and you think

You can make it happen with your diatribes

You think you are so above reproach and yet we know the truth

You continue to be wrong with your labels and it pisses you off so

You continue with your labels without regard for the truth



My assessment is of your words.

Denying who you are when you clearly support the war machine is weak.

Stop shoving the "hooray, let's honor the killers," posts out there and I won't interpret it as you supporting them.

I am allowed to comment on posts supporting death.

It's what pro-lifers do.

If there is further truth you are hiding then by all; means speak up.

But to date, you always post support for those in, and those who were, in the military.

That is not what true pro-lifers do.


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The Number Of US Citizens killed by VietCong or NVA in Vietnam BEFORE Ground troops
were sent to Vietnam in March of 1965:

Year of Death     
1956 - 1959  4
1960    5
1961   16
1962   53
1963  122
1964  216[/b]

Total 416


Nice try, incomprehensible one.

Now please pay close attention to the exact words.

I clearly said that "no Vietnamese person that was killed ever committed any crime against the US."

Now a normal human would understand that the group of a half million civilians that were killed committed no crime against the US.

Had the US not gone there those half a million people, would have lived out there lives.

Those half million civilians were acceptable collateral damages.

No apology day has ever been celebrated for them.

Yet all kinds of days are celebrated for their killers.

Try to stay on topic.

And just for the record, the Americans killed by the "VietCong or NVA in Vietnam" were killed
by people defending their own country. I don't dispute those American deaths.

I merely think that celebrating and honoring those who killed a half million civilians is sending the wrong message to kids growing up in America.

Clearly the Vietnamese civilians involuntarily sacrificed more than the American military.

There deaths are meaningless and not deserving of an apology.

The Koreans just released Merrill Newman after he simply apologized for his participation in the killing innocent civilians during the war.

HONG KONG — North Korea accused a captive American military veteran of war crimes, saying he was involved in the killing of innocent civilians during the Korean War, state news media reported on Saturday.

In a photo released by the Korean Central News Agency on Saturday, 85-year-old Merrill Newman reads what the agency said is a written apology for his actions during the Korean War.

The veteran, Merrill E. Newman, 85, of Palo Alto, Calif., has been detained in North Korea since Oct. 26, when he was taken off a flight as he was about to leave the country. He had been visiting on a tourist visa.

The Korean Central News Agency said on Saturday that Mr. Newman had “admitted his crimes” and apologized for his actions during the war, which lasted from 1950 until 1953.

‘‘During the Korean War, I have been guilty of a long list of indelible crimes against DPRK government and Korean people as advisor of the Kuwol Unit of the U.N. Korea 6th Partisan Regiment part of the Intelligence Bureau of the Far East Command,’’
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Even though Mr Newman was clearly forced to confess in exchange for his freedom, I still have respect for him going through with it.

I have never heard a single word of remorse or regret for the half million civilians killed in Vietnam.

Or the 20,000 plus Japanese civilians killed in their homes.

Just chest thumping self justification.

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My assessment is of your words.

Denying who you are when you clearly support the war machine is weak.

Stop shoving the "hooray, let's honor the killers," posts out there and I won't interpret it as you supporting them.

I am allowed to comment on posts supporting death.

It's what pro-lifers do.

If there is further truth you are hiding then by all; means speak up.

But to date, you always post support for those in, and those who were, in the military.

That is not what true pro-lifers do.




BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH!

You go right ahead and think what you want, because

I am very comfortable with who I am and who I am not,

and I have no need to justify anything, especially to you!


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Quoted from joebxr
Let me be clear.....

You have no idea who I am and what I believe or stand for


First of all, you are never clear.

You are always ambiguous and deceptive You simply deny everything and keep your reasons secret.


Quoted from joebxr

You continue to be wrong with your labels and it pisses you off so

You continue with your labels without regard for the truth



I can only make an assessment by the truth offered.

If you won't tell your complete story, then you are judged by the parts that you post.

You clearly honor and respect any current or former military person blindly.

Even those who may have committed heinous atrocities.

The military collective has committed uncountable civilian deaths and support for the entire military is a pro-death stance.

Claiming it isn't who you are, while constantly trying to honor and show respect to them, leads the reader to believe that you are lying.

It's a weak act committed to deflect exposing your firm belief in using death as an acceptable action.

Either you accept it or you don't.

You can't honor and respect those who do kill and still claim to pro-life.

My feelings and my beliefs are an open book.

You just keep supporting the war machine and then backpedal saying that's not who you are.

Not a single ounce of remorse, regret or apology for the deaths caused by the US military.

I openly apologize for any life that was taken by the US military.

Allegedly defending my freedom.

I want the world to know all Americans are not military warriors that just kill whoever they want.(self justification)

Self justification.

That's why we have blood in the streets.

From the trenchcoat mafia to Newtown.

From Miami to LA to NYC.

From Detroit to Chicago to Schenectady.

Self justification is taught as a patriotic action.

By every single, killer honoring, holiday.


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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH!

You go right ahead and think what you want, because

I am very comfortable with who I am and who I am not,

and I have no need to justify anything, especially to you!


You are correct.

You have to explain nothing.

People can read what you post honoring and respecting those who kill and die, and assign their own opinions, or speak out against your statements.

Perhaps I have, as you say completely misjudged you, but all I have to go by is your never ending support and respect for those who kill and die.

And your absence of remorse, regret or any type of expression of non-support for the civilians they have been killed repeatedly since before I was born.



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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Dear Mr. Loser-4-Life,
You seem to think you are so smart, yet you post such utter trash
about me because my life is not an open book for you to read.
I've chosen not to justify anything to you or the other idiot loser
that posts, because you both distort what people say to advance your own
ignorance.  You claim so much to know me from words, yet you seem to
fall short in reading comprehension. You want me to be what you
say I am, fine, believe it all you want. Push as hard as you want, but

I repeat:
I am very comfortable with who I am and who I am not,

I am very comfortable with what I have and have not done in life,

and I have no need to justify anything, especially to you!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
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