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Imagine the conversation The Creator might have had with St. Francis on the subject of lawns:
God: Hey St. Francis, you know all about gardens and nature. What in the world is going on down there in the Midwest? What happened to the dandelions, violets, thistle and stuff I started eons ago? I had a perfect "no maintenance" garden plan. Those plants grow in any type of soil, withstand drought and multiply with abandon. The nectar from the long lasting blossoms attracts butterflies, honey bees and flocks of songbirds. I expected to see a vast garden of colors by now. But all I see are these green rectangles.

St. Francis: It's the tribes that settled there, Lord. The Suburbanites. They started calling your flowers "weeds" and went to great lengths to kill them and replace them with grass.

God: Grass? But it's so boring. It's not colorful. It doesn't attract butterflies, birds and bees, only grubs and sod worms. It's temperamental with temperatures. Do these Suburbanites really want all that grass growing there?

St. Francis: Apparently so, Lord. They go to great pains to grow it and keep it green. The begin each spring by fertilizing grass and poisoning any other plant that crops up in the lawn.

God: The spring rains and warm weather probably make grass grow really fast. That must make the Suburbanites happy.

St. Francis: Apparently not, Lord. As soon as it grows a little, they cut it... sometimes twice a week.

God: They cut it? Do they then bail it like hay?

St. Francis: Not exactly, Lord. Most of them rake it up and put it in bags.

God: They bag it? Why? Is it a cash crop? Do they sell it?

St. Francis: No Sir. Just the opposite. They pay to throw it away.

God: Now let me get this straight. They fertilize grass so when it does grow, they cut it off and pay to throw it away?

St. Francis: Yes, Sir.

God: These Suburbanites must be relieved in the summer when we cut back on the rain and turn up the heat. That surely slows the growth and saves them a lot of work.

St. Francis: You are not going to believe this Lord. When the grass stops growing so fast, they drag out hoses and pay more money to water it so they can continue to mow it and pay to get rid of it.

God: What nonsense. At least they kept some of the trees. That was a sheer stroke of genius, if I do say so myself. The trees grow leaves in the spring to provide beauty and shade in the summer. In the autumn they fall to the ground and form a natural blanket to keep moisture in the soil and protect the trees and bushes. Plus, as they rot, the leaves form compost to enhance the soil. It's a natural circle of life.

St. Francis: You better sit down, Lord. The Suburbanites have drawn a new circle. As soon as the leaves fall, they rake them into great piles and pay to have them hauled away.

God: No. What do they do to protect the shrub and tree roots in the winter and to keep the soil moist and loose?

St. Francis: After throwing away the leaves, they go out and buy something which they call mulch. The haul it home and spread it around in place of the leaves.

God: And where do they get this mulch?

St. Francis: They cut down trees and grind them up to make the mulch.

God: Enough. I don't want to think about this anymore. Sister Catherine, you're in charge of the arts. What movie have you scheduled for us tonight?

Sister Catherine: "Dumb and Dumber", Lord. It's a real stupid movie about.....

God: Never mind, I think I just heard the whole story from St. Francis.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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senders.......LUV IT!!! We are really stupid humans, aren't we?


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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are we paying for leaf pick up even if you don't use it?
are we compelled to use it?


Yes, you are paying for it out of the Highway Department budget.
No, you are not compelled to use it.

My family has never used it.  Our lawnmowers all have the mulching feature and we mulch the grass and the leaves.  We have never had to have the town cart our yard waste away,  Also, we have never had to pay for harmful chemicals to feed our lawn.  Thus, we save money, help the environment and don't cost our fellow taxpayers anything to maintain our lawn.


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Did you buy a home ? I didn't know you were a taxpayer.
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as the saying goes.....BINGO
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He keeps saying "we" but of course he is NOT a taxpayer.  

Also it is a total guarantee that the rich aunties hire someone to do their lawn.  Yes he is telling tall tales because you CANNOT have nice lawn on mulch alone.  A nice lawn can only be had by applying stuff to it.  Mulched leaves and grass do NOT prevent grab grass from germinating.   Mulched leaves and grass do NOT prevent NOR kill dandelions and other weeds.   Mulched leaves and grass will NOT stop grubs.

Have a neighbor who tried one of those books as seen on TV, some guy that talks about these natural ways, another friend read about and tried baking soda which had been touted as doing the job.

We have people that don't bag leaves and grass around here, their lawns are pathetic despite their regular watering, etc.   They get lawns with piles of matted pieces of leaves.

DV makes it sound like his mommies' lawn is like a carpet. ROFL.

See, DV has never owned a house and thus knows NOTHING about inside or outside maintenance and repairs.  Since he really cannot provide any evidence to support the praise he gives to his dem buddies and Schenectady, and since ALL the evidence contradicts and disproves everything he says, now he resorts to telling tales about how to have a nice lawn.  Then he says the alleged mulching that his two mommies have to pay someone to do is saving the taxpayers money, but would DV EVER provide any details about how much?  Perhaps 5 dollars a year divided by, what, 20,000 properties in the town?  

His fairy tales get funnier every time he posts.




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Personally, I'd rather have my tax dollars spent on vital services such as paramedics than to be wasted on hauling away grass clippings and fallen leaves.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
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If you compost leaves into your lawn, you will need to check your soil's ph from time to time as it will become more acidic, which isn't good for your grass. So I'm told, I don't do it myself but I know someone who does. I have also heard that as far as composting your leaves, if you have diseased leaves you shouldn't use them, but I can't find the source I read that from.
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Personally, I'd rather have my tax dollars spent on vital services such as paramedics than to be wasted on hauling away grass clippings and fallen leaves.


Well you can thank your democratic party for the rems issue!

HOWEVER.....it was a long time coming. Except in this case, your democratic friends decided to do it at a time that wouldbenefit their personal wallets.

The truth of the matter is.....Mohawk is the best financial decision for the taxpayers. But in this case, Your dem friends decided to screw the ROTTENdam taxpayers and keep the extra money for their raises!!

As far as leaves......there a bigger fish to fry in the scope of life. Let nature take care of nature!!


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Personally, I'd rather have my tax dollars spent on vital services such as paramedics than to be wasted on hauling away grass clippings and fallen leaves.


however the highway retirements are half of public safety

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Well you can thank your democratic party for the rems issue!

HOWEVER.....it was a long time coming. Except in this case, your democratic friends decided to do it at a time that wouldbenefit their personal wallets.

The truth of the matter is.....Mohawk is the best financial decision for the taxpayers. But in this case, Your dem friends decided to screw the ROTTENdam taxpayers and keep the extra money for their raises!!

As far as leaves......there a bigger fish to fry in the scope of life. Let nature take care of nature!!


Last things first -- I do believe in letting nature take care of nature.  That is why, we have used mulching mowers for years.  We have also composted our own yard waste.

Next, you make a rather huge assumption in who you believe my friends are and which party I support.  If I had a choice between living in a town without R.E,M.S, or a town without the local Democratic Party,  there is no hesitation or doubt what my answer would be.  


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
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Personally, I'd rather have my tax dollars spent on vital services such as paramedics than to be wasted on hauling away grass clippings and fallen leaves.




Hmmm, you are a taxpayer?????    I assume if we check the OFFICIAL list of taxpayers in the town and county we will see your name on a deed?

Of course NOT.  And of course you will NOT address the evidence that we have that proves you are NOT a taxpayer.

Now pretend that you don't read these messages, you pretend to have me blocked only because I back you into a corner each and every time and you can NEVER produce a teeny iota of evidence to prove me wrong, so you PRETEND that I'm blocked



  









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Yes, you are paying for it out of the Highway Department budget.
No, you are not compelled to use it.

My family has never used it.  Our lawnmowers all have the mulching feature and we mulch the grass and the leaves.  We have never had to have the town cart our yard waste away,  Also, we have never had to pay for harmful chemicals to feed our lawn.  Thus, we save money, help the environment and don't cost our fellow taxpayers anything to maintain our lawn.



Can I ask you DemocraticVoiceOfReason, what kind of lawnmowers do you have?  My father's lawnmower is a mulching mower too. I know he always used it on the lawn instead of the bag for the cut grass.  When he used to have a vegetable garden he used to get all the stuff in the bag and lay the cut grass in between the rows in the garden. But he didn't do that with the leaves.  I mean he used the mulch section of the mower but on the leaves but when spring came those mulched pieces of leaves were so thick and wet we had to rake it all and it left bare spots in the lawn.  How much do you save on your taxes?
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Oh, we do pay twice for trash in Schenectady. Once, in the budget, twice, in the "fee". That's twice. One, two. When we went to the fee system, the budget should have been reduced accordingly, along with our taxes. Or, our taxes could have been left the same, but another budget item should have had money added to it, such as money to keep up Central Park. That is how budgets work, except in Schenectady. MC know their numbers.


How are you coming up with we pay twice for trash in the city.  I mean, I pay four times during the year because the taxes are broken up into four payments, so is the school tax, the only thing that makes anything seem like paying twice is we write out a check for the school taxes and a second check to the city.

But I'm not paying twice to the city.  I know about the fee but it all goes into one budget

However I think another thing that is confusing in Rotterdam is that the trash and recycle is done on a different day than the yard waste, I do go over to my mother's almost every day but it would be nice to put them all out to the curb for the same day, why do they have to make it so confusing in the town.  In our city everything is done together and the printed schedule and you just look at it and know when pick up is.
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However I think another thing that is confusing in Rotterdam is that the trash and recycle is done on a different day than the yard waste, I do go over to my mother's almost every day but it would be nice to put them all out to the curb for the same day, why do they have to make it so confusing in the town.  In our city everything is done together and the printed schedule and you just look at it and know when pick up is.


If this is so confusing for you ... why don't you stop your mom's  garbage/recycle pick up and take it to your property in the city where you know EXACTLY when they come!! And it'll save her a few bucks! And you all of this CONFUSION!


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