I can't disagree. There are thousand of exception. Debbie and the DNC says there are NO LEGAL EXCEPTIONS. Not one. A 7 pound baby in the womb has no legally protected rights according to democrats.
Really Cissy? Are you lying again??? Are you saying that Debbie and the DNC has no exceptions for a late term abortion? NONE? Any woman in the country who wants to abort a fetus at any stage, for any reason is OK with the DNC???
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Really Cissy? Are you lying again??? Are you saying that Debbie and the DNC has no exceptions for a late term abortion? NONE? Any woman in the country who wants to abort a fetus at any stage, for any reason is OK with the DNC???
Well yeah...She said NO GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT....PERIOD...END OF STORY. And that was her answer about a 7 pound fetus. It's up to the mother and doctor.
Well yeah...She said NO GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT....PERIOD...END OF STORY. And that was her answer about a 7 pound fetus. It's up to the mother and doctor.
You keep lying misrepresenting the truth on Debbie's position. She states that she doesn't want GOVERMENT, (you know laws... like from YOUR GOVERNMENT) interfering with her life or that of her unborn fetus, especially in the climate of Anti Abortion Zealots who would risk HER life because of THEIR religious beliefs.
If I were a woman faced with making a late term abortion decision, and especially if my life were at risk... I would trust my doctor, or the best medical knowledge available for that decision. I WOULD NOT TRUST SOME SCUMBAG POLITICIAN (Rand Paul) TO LEGISLATE THAT DECISION FOR ME.
I guess we found out today that Cicero is really a "BIG GOVERNMENT CONSERVATIVE" not some lame libertarian as he pretends to be.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
You keep lying misrepresenting the truth on Debbie's position. She states that she doesn't want GOVERMENT, (you know laws... like from YOUR GOVERNMENT) interfering with her life or that of her unborn fetus, especially in the climate of Anti Abortion Zealots who would risk HER life because of THEIR religious beliefs.
If I were a woman faced with making a late term abortion decision, and especially if my life were at risk... I would trust my doctor, or the best medical knowledge available for that decision. I WOULD NOT TRUST SOME SCUMBAG POLITICIAN (Rand Paul) TO LEGISLATE THAT DECISION FOR ME.
I guess we found out today that Cicero is really a "BIG GOVERNMENT CONSERVATIVE" not some lame libertarian as he pretends to be.
I get it box. Debbie doesn't believe an unborn fetus has a legally protected right to life under any circumstance and government has no role in protecting the life of the unborn fetus. Even a 7 pound fetus.
I guess you found out today that when I looked at a ultrasound of my kids during the 3rd trimester, I was looking at a human life and not a blob of cells. It's hard for me to convince myself to look at it as a blob of cells to terminate on a whim.
Doctors and libertarians are the same - to do no harm. Tide bid and I guess you, ending the life of a 7 pound fetus for whatever reason is up to a doctor and mother. No rights for the 7 pound fetus.
I get it box. Debbie doesn't believe an unborn fetus has a legally protected right to life under any circumstance and government has no role in protecting the life of the unborn fetus. Even a 7 pound fetus.
So we've all heard Cicero's VERSION of what Schultz said (complete with lies and half truths) now for the exact response from Schultz: “Here’s an answer: “I support letting women and their doctors make this decision without government getting involved. Period. End of story.
(Cicero believes some backwoods Kentucky politician should make this decision.)
Since we've all heard Cicero's LIES on this subject.... Lets hear what else Schultz said in her response: (This is the part Cicero ignores and for some reason, doesn't quote)
Now your turn, Senator Paul. We know you want to allow government officials like yourself to make this decision for women — but do you stand by your opposition to any exceptions, even when it comes to rape, incest, or life of the mother? Or do we just have different definitions of ‘personal liberty’?
As yet... Randy Paul seems afraid to answer the question.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
define liberty and who/what hands it out to humans?
are you 'born' with it? does it come to you when sperm meets ovum? does it come to you when you magically turn 18? is liberty only given by the government?
because it is NOT about a war on women as much as it is about the power to hand out 'liberty'......this is where the actual conversation gets missed because everyone is talking about what doesn't matter....
do you have liberty to have sex? do you have liberty to say no to sex? do you have liberty to take chemical birth control? do you have liberty to use mechanical birth control? do you have liberty to seek out that specialist human to perform what you wish? do you have liberty to say no to regulations?
Box will not be able to get this far without a direct order of the 'liberty' to answer in certain directed terms.
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
(This is the part Cicero ignores and for some reason, doesn't quote)
Now your turn, Senator Paul. We know you want to allow government officials like yourself to make this decision for women — but do you stand by your opposition to any exceptions, even when it comes to rape, incest, or life of the mother? Or do we just have different definitions of ‘personal liberty’?
As yet... Randy Paul seems afraid to answer the question.
Paul is a U.S. senator. It's not his role to decide. He proposed legislation giving the fetus legal protection of life and liberty. States legislate this. The Supreme Court would ultimately decide if their laws violate the fetus' constitutional right to life.
But Debbie was absolutely sure a 7 pound fetus deserves NO constitutional right. Period...END OF STORY.
Paul is a U.S. senator. It's not his role to decide. He proposed legislation giving the fetus legal protection of life and liberty. States legislate this. The Supreme Court would ultimately decide if their laws violate the fetus' constitutional right to life.
But Debbie was absolutely sure a 7 pound fetus deserves NO constitutional right. Period...END OF STORY.
Didn't Debbie say it was between the woman and the doctor??? You seem so confused on that.
So... anyone with advanced directives can request a DNR (do not resuscitate) even if they are actually a HUMAN and not a fetus. That decision is between the patient (or the family) and the DOCTOR. I wonder if Cissy would be as rabidly against the death of a 270 pound HUMAN? The HUMAN is unconscious and can't make those decisions on his own... BUT A DOCTOR CAN. Your blind rage against Debbie must have made you miss her actual statement: The decision between a woman and a DOCTOR... just like a DNR.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Cicero is rabid... YES RABID about his anti govt views... Oh wait... Cissy doesn't recognize the US Flag or the Govt it represents... BRB....................................
(There, that's better)
"NO GOVT IN MY POCKET" "NO GOVT IN MY DECISIONS" "NO GOVT MAKING LAWS" "NO GOVT IN ANY OF MY DEALINGS" BUT ON THIS ISSUE HE WANTS GOVT... NOT TO PASS LAWS THAT HE WILL EVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT... HE WANTS LAWS THAT WILL RESTRICT NOT HIMSELF, BUT A LAW THAT WILL SERIOUSLY RESTRICT OTHERS. (What a guy!)
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Didn't Debbie say it was between the woman and the doctor??? You seem so confused on that.
Not confused...she made it clear the government has no role in protecting the 7 pound fetus' legal right to life. Yup, it's clear she left that decision to a doctor and mother.
So... anyone with advanced directives can request a DNR (do not resuscitate) even if they are actually a HUMAN and not a fetus. That decision is between the patient (or the family) and the DOCTOR. I wonder if Cissy would be as rabidly against the death of a 270 pound HUMAN? The HUMAN is unconscious and can't make those decisions on his own... BUT A DOCTOR CAN. Your blind rage against Debbie must have made you miss her actual statement: The decision between a woman and a DOCTOR... just like a DNR.
The government is involved in this process. A DNR and healthcare proxy are legally recognized by courts.(See Terri Schiavo)
I'm not aware of a 7 pound fetus assigning a legal Heathcare proxy or signing a DNR.
The government is involved in this process. A DNR and healthcare proxy are legally recognized by courts.
I'm not aware of a 7 pound fetus assigning a legal Heathcare proxy or signing a DNR.(See Terri Schiavo)
Terri Schiavo was a human being... and as you just posted... we are discussing a "FETUS" not a human being.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Being a fake pro-lifer that supports uncountable other ways to kill, is.
Use of force upon others to force them to accept your selective pro-life values is criminal.
Boxy here is selectively pro-life in favor of gun ownership infringement.
For the children.
But he expects everyone else to accept his abortion viewpoint and wants it enforced by law.
Same as his opposition, who seek banning abortions "for the children."
So your position is that a 7 pound fetus is not a human life? Or that governments have no business stopping one person from taking another persons life?
If you are suggesting I am the opposition and looking to ban abortion, you are wrong. The position is granting the protected right to life for the fetus, in this case it' a 7 pound fetus. Like I've said before, there are legitimate reason one person can take the life of another. Most times it is for self defense. I'm just in favor of granting those natural rights to life, not only to the baby that took its first breath on the delivery table, but to that same baby that was in the womb just seconds before.
Cicero is rabid... YES RABID about his anti govt views... Oh wait... Cissy doesn't recognize the US Flag or the Govt it represents... BRB....................................
(There, that's better)
"NO GOVT IN MY POCKET" "NO GOVT IN MY DECISIONS" "NO GOVT MAKING LAWS" "NO GOVT IN ANY OF MY DEALINGS" BUT ON THIS ISSUE HE WANTS GOVT... NOT TO PASS LAWS THAT HE WILL EVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT... HE WANTS LAWS THAT WILL RESTRICT NOT HIMSELF, BUT A LAW THAT WILL SERIOUSLY RESTRICT OTHERS. (What a guy!)
LOL - Boxy went into full rhetorical rant mode!!! LMAO
Hey...I told you Debbie Deathermann screwed the pooch on this one. Keep the spin going. I'm sure ads will be coming out soon to help clarify Debbie's position on ending the lives of 7 pound fetus'. I don't think she's done answering this one for a while.
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