What lies? What was Debbie's quote on CNN in response to? I linked a "reputable" source that reported on Debbie's response to Paul's question to her about killing a 7lb baby in the womb.
Cmon box, how long you gonna play this game? She responded to Paul's question, and she said its up to the mother and doctor. The mother and doctor has a choice to kill the baby or not kill the baby. NO GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT.
There is only ONE QUESTION HERE CICERO: Did Shultz say or post: "I endorses killing 7 pound babies in the womb". This is easy. YES OR NO.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
There is only ONE QUESTION HERE CICERO: Did Shultz say or post: "I endorses killing 7 pound babies in the womb". This is easy. YES OR NO.
Yes.
In response to Rand Paul's question, Debbie said:
Quoted Text
“Here’s an answer. I support letting women and their doctors make this decision without government getting involve
So she SUPPORTS a woman and doctors decision to kill or not kill a 7 pound baby in the womb. She does not support government involvement in that decision. So if you want to split hairs over the word support or endorse, have at it. What is certain, she doesn't support anybody(specifically the government) be involved with the mother or doctors decision to kill a 7 pound baby in the womb. She is fine with either decision and made no mention of protecting the life of the 7 pound baby.
So what did you think Debbie meant when she said she supports the mother and doctors decision to either kill or preserve the life of a 7 pound baby in the womb?
Yes. In response to Rand Paul's question, Debbie said. So she SUPPORTS a woman and doctors decision to kill or not kill a 7 pound baby in the womb.
Cicero. SHE NEVER SAID (or POSTED) THAT!
You can infer that she might or might not feel that way but again... SHULTZ NEVER SAID WHAT YOU CLAIM SHE SAID, AND YOU KNOW IT.
AGAIN... There is only ONE QUESTION HERE CICERO: Did Shultz say or post: "I endorses killing 7 pound babies in the womb". YOU CLAIM THAT SHE DID, BUT WE BOTH KNOW THAT SHE DIDN'T.
SO UNLESS YOU HAVE A LINK OR VIDEO OR SOME OTHER VALID SOURCE... POST THE LINK.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Judging by Rand Paul's posts, he won't say if he supports or is against "killing a 7 pound baby in the womb". He refuses to say anything about which exceptions he would choose for abortion.
So... Using Cicero's 'Lame Logic'... if he refuses to say it... he must be for it!!! ( Cicero is so lost in his lies that he's grabbing at anything he can find to justify his lies.) Sad.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
A woman is in a terrible traffic accident. She is far along in her pregnancy and needs immediate medical care. Her wounds show that there is also likely life threatening damage to the fetus she carries. In the doctors medical opinion, she needs an immediate abortion to save her life. If not both of them are quite likely to die in minutes.
The doctor decides to abort the fetus... But Rand Paul enters the ER and stops the operation. Both the mom and the fetus die. Cicero smiles, as he rubs his hands together in delight. Another VICTORY for the misogynist.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
So what did you think Debbie meant when she said she supports the mother and doctors decision to either kill or preserve the life of a 7 pound baby in the womb?
Here we go again. ANOTHER CICERO LIE. He just keeps lying until even he believes the LIES.
Once again Cicero... Shultz never said "she supports the mother and doctors decision to either kill or preserve the life of a 7 pound baby in the womb?" Cicero... THOSE ARE YOUR WORDS, NOT HERS.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Keep on saying it's all lies boxy. Ole Debbie's on the RECORD, she took a position. And I agree, she clearly stated her position before Rand. For that I commend her. I don't know why you are flipping out just because the head of the DNC took a position on the abortion of a 7 pound baby in the womb. Debbie's an anarchist when it comes to 7 pound babies in the womb. NO GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT!!!
Keep on saying it's all lies boxy. Ole Debbie's on the RECORD, she took a position. And I agree, she clearly stated her position before Rand. For that I commend her. I don't know why you are flipping out just because the head of the DNC took a position on the abortion of a 7 pound baby in the womb. Debbie's an anarchist when it comes to 7 pound babies in the womb. NO GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT!!!
From the beginning Cicero... YOU POSTED THAT SHE SAID THAT. You didn't say she "inferred" it or that she "implied" that, or that she probably meant that... YOU SAID SHE SAID IT! WHEN I ASKED YOU IF SHE SAID IT "YES OR NO", YOUR REPLY WAS "YES". SO IF IT'S "YES", PUT UP OR RETRACT YOUR STATEMENT. POST A LINK, TO PROVE YOUR COMMENT, OR BE PROVEN A LIAR.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
A woman is in a terrible traffic accident. She is far along in her pregnancy and needs immediate medical care. Her wounds show that there is also likely life threatening damage to the fetus she carries. In the doctors medical opinion, she needs an immediate abortion to save her life. If not both of them are quite likely to die in minutes.
The doctor decides to abort the fetus... But Rand Paul enters the ER and stops the operation. Both the mom and the fetus die. Cicero smiles, as he rubs his hands together in delight. Another VICTORY for the misogynist.
As you notice there are no laws or judges in the scenario to assure all lives are being protected. Just a medical opinion.
Scenario two:
Woman walks into a planned parenthood 36 weeks pregnant. She tells the doctor she is depressed and doesn't feel she can care for the expected baby. Doctor says "no problem", pulls out the scalpel and begins pulling the baby out of her womb limb by limb.
Box and Debbie walk in, and they high five each other and spike the baby's severed head on the planned parenthood floor, celebrating another great example of the freedom of choice and womens rights.
As you notice there are no laws or judges in the scenario to assure all lives are being protected. Just a medical opinion.
Scenario two:
Woman walks into a planned parenthood 36 weeks pregnant. She tells the doctor she is depressed and doesn't feel she can care for the expected baby. Doctor says "no problem", pulls out the scalpel and begins pulling the baby out of her womb limb by limb.
Box and Debbie walk in, and they high five each other and spike the baby's severed head on the planned parenthood floor, celebrating another great example of the freedom of choice and womens rights.
Lets debate your post Cicero... Once your Lie is either confirmed or proven correct. Till then... how can we debate the point as long as your contend a FACT that isn't a FACT. Post the link to Shultz's words, or STFU!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Lets debate your post Cicero... Once your Lie is either confirmed or proven correct. Till then... how can we debate the point as long as your contend a FACT that isn't a FACT. Post the link to Shultz's words, or STFU!
I posted multiple links multiple times to Deathermann Shultz's statement that she released responding to Rand Paul's question about killing a 7 pound baby in the womb. I even posted the Wolfie Blitzer video talking about her statement. She supports the parent and doctors choice to end the life of a 7 pound baby in the womb. I don't know what posting the link over and over again is going to do.
Man box...I haven't seen you this fired up in a while. Really - STFU? The DNC must have sent a mass email to their troll army, to make sure Debbie Deathermann-Shultz's statement gets shoved down the memory hole. Deborah, THE CHAIR OF THE DNC gave great campaign ad material to Rand. I think Debbie just secured Rand the "evangelical" vote for the Republican primary.
Judging by Rand Paul's posts, he won't say if he supports or is against "killing a 7 pound baby in the womb". He refuses to say anything about which exceptions he would choose for abortion.
So... Using Cicero's 'Lame Logic'... if he refuses to say it... he must be for it!!! ( Cicero is so lost in his lies that he's grabbing at anything he can find to justify his lies.) Sad.
Not true...Paul proposed legislation would give constitutional rights to that 7 pound baby in the womb. He doesn't craft the laws in each state that would determine if the termination of a 7 pound baby's life is permitted and under which circumstances. Debbie clearly said, she wants NO GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT and no rights for the 7 pound baby in the womb. As the head of the DNC, that must be part of the Democrat platform - abortion up until delivery.
if you can kill a blob of cells that are not a human because it doesn't know itself then someone with dementia who doesn't know itself can also be killed. why care take the humans who don't know they are human?
I could really care less if a woman gets an abortion. However, Box, you don't have a right to be a cheerleader on the subject.
Scenario: if woman and man decide to hook up and sperm meets ova, does man have the right to know or is the male that detached and tossed aside just because the woman has a womb? Are we fighting over real estate rights or the human aspect?
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
On post 453 at 311 pm, I asked cicero to back up the statement below. As of 10:40 tonight, he has refused.
Shultz:" I endorses killing 7 pound babies in the womb".
He's whined, he's ducked he's hid, he's covered... he's made up lies, he's offered excuses... He's done everything but answer the question.
I'll ask again... Not for some BS excuse or some political rhetoric... just post a link to Shultz making the above statement.
Cissy posted that Shultz said: " I endorses killing 7 pound babies in the womb". Of course she never did. And Cissy isn't man enough to admit he was either mistaken or lying.
It kinda says a lot about his character.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Not true...Paul proposed legislation would give constitutional rights to that 7 pound baby in the womb. He doesn't craft the laws in each state that would determine if the termination of a 7 pound baby's life is permitted and under which circumstances. Debbie clearly said, she wants NO GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT and no rights for the 7 pound baby in the womb. As the head of the DNC, that must be part of the Democrat platform - abortion up until delivery.
Pathetic!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Logged
