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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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The comments are interesting and pretty much destroys the whole article


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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oh no!  The Pinocchio meter!!!   The idiots measurement for truthiness...


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oh no!  The Pinocchio meter!!!


Sounds like a segment John Stewart would run


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Rand Paul, Justin Amash, and Grover Norquist are pushing the GOP in a more libertarian direction
Fri, 10/31/2014 - 11:30am | posted by Matthew Hurtt

Rand Paul and Grover Norquist

More Americans are embracing the ideals of liberty and limited government, Michigan Congressman Justin Amash suggested in a recent interview with Reason. “The public is more libertarian, the public is saying we want people who are going to be independent and not bow to leadership in either of the major parties,” Amash said, noting the House Liberty Caucus has seen steady growth over the last few years. Expressing optimism, Amash continued:

    Things aren’t going our way when it comes to the votes right now… But we are seeing things change at home in our districts and we are seeing things change with respect to the newly elected members in both parties. There is a belief in liberty that is deeply ingrained in Americans, and when we see it starting to slip away, we push back against the system.

Though Amash suggests also that there are streaks of liberty in both parties, both Kentucky Senator Rand Paul and American’s for Tax Reform’s Grover Norquist hope voters embrace the Republican Party in their quest to advance liberty.

Writing at Reason, Senator Paul notes:

    I believe a Republican Party that is more tolerant and dedicated to keeping the government out of people’s personal business would be more appealing to the rising generation and libertarians alike.

    The Constitution must be our guide. For conservatives to win nationally, we must stand for something. We must stand on principle. We must stand for something so powerful and so popular that it brings together people from the left and the right and the middle.

    The GOP will revive Reagan’s law: For liberty to expand, government must now contract. For the economy to grow, government must get out of the way.

    Young Americans—conservative, libertarian, independent—are as fed up with big government as their parents and grandparents. We are the party that is willing to address their unique concerns and in doing so, we will build a new majority that might finally turn this country around.

    The Republican Party is not perfect and there is some dissent within the ranks, but I need libertarian minded Republicans and libertarian independents to vote, get involved and run for office. The heart of the Republican Party embraces freedom and we need to vote and then massage the party to get the party to fight harder to implement a positive vision of economic freedom, low taxation and individual liberty.

Norquist, citing the math when a Libertarian Party candidate files to run in a three-way race, adds:

    “But I want to advance liberty as rapidly and as powerfully as possible. Isn’t voting for the Libertarian candidate sending a stronger signal that there is a real demand in the electorate for greater liberty than voting for the ‘lesser of two evils’ Republican?”

    Well who is getting this message? When you watch the TV commentators on election night the tally they put up on the board is either, one, Republicans win and the nation wants lower taxes and spending and an end to Obamacare or two, Democrats win the Senate and the nation wants Obama’s growing government. We don’t get to write the script.

    Liberty activists should remember that voting is only one political act. Speaking with your siblings, co-workers, neighbors, children and parents provides daily opportunities to advance liberty and multiply the voice and power of the liberty movement. Call your grandparents. Speak with the waitress. Don’t whine that Republican candidates do not talk about liberty. You talk about liberty to everyone who will listen. Whining about other people is not work. It is whining. The struggle against statism is a great deal of work and the only person you control is you. Be the calm, coherent voice for liberty you wish the Republican candidate for Senate was.

The proof is in the pudding. In the 2014 cycle, Republican candidates — challengers and incumbents alike — are falling all over themselves to get Rand Paul to stump for them.

And just Google’ing “young libertarians” yields a litany of stories about the future of the Republican Party. The Old Guard won’t sit idly by, though, while young libertarians like Justin Amash flood the GOP.

Reason’s Nick Gillespie also interviewed Kirsten Kukowski, press secretary for the Republican National Committee, who said, ”A lot of times, when [Republicans] are on the stage with Libertarian candidates, we are agreeing with… libertarians, more than we are agreeing with Democrats.” Check out the full interview here:

The truth is, the “Establishment” in both parties are pushing back against the rising tide of libertarian thought. It won’t always be easy to advance liberty.

But those who believe in limited government and maximum freedom must keep working, by supporting pro-liberty candidates and by talking to friends and family about those principles.

As Lew Rockwell noted at the Ludwig von Mises Institute a few weeks ago in response to a number of pieces about the “libertarian moment” we’re currently experiencing: “Is it too much to call this the libertarian moment? Whatever we want to call it, it’s the beginning of something never seen before in American history, and that alone is reason to celebrate.”
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Rand's 'misinformation' seems to have worked well on this board!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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Rand's 'misinformation' seems to have worked well on this board!  


Never heard of the guy.  


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Never heard of the guy.  


It's part of Box's mission to make his choice of candidates as less evil than the others.

Every workplace has a guy like him that thinks going negative about everyone else is beneficial to themselves.

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Never heard of the guy.  


I guess he's some Crack Pot Texas congressman's son.  
He says that he is a "board certified" optomologist, but the only board that certified him
is one that he invented!
He was in the press a few months back for plagiarism, but he denies the charge.
I guess he wants to be US President!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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I guess he's some Crack Pot Texas congressman's son.  
He says that he is a "board certified" optomologist, but the only board that certified him
is one that he invented!
He was in the press a few months back for plagiarism, but he denies the charge.
I guess he wants to be US President!


Hmmm...something to think about.  

Does the paul guy know how many states there are in the union?  That something a potential candidate needs to know.


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He says that he is a "board certified" optomologist, but the only board that certified him
is one that he invented!


Who invented the other board?


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Who invented the other board?


Actual opthamologist.  Not pretend ones.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Actual opthamologist.  Not pretend ones.


Who certified the actual optomologists?


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Who certified the actual optomologists?


Actual opthamologist.  Not pretend ones.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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Actual opthamologist.  Not pretend ones.


But don't the actual opthamiligists need to be board certified?  Just curious how the first board of opthamiligists were certified.  Who is the first eye guru that certified everybody.


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