criminals (and this is a pre-crime statement) DON'T STAND IN LINE FOR BACKGROUND CHECKS.....
a person with mental health issues MIGHT stand in line or they might be OK for many years passing all the background checks and then BANG, seems they are 'falling down'.....
I'm all for a safety class like those for big game hunting....but a background check is UN-AMERICAN and makes criminals for nothing....
example: NYS does background checks for nurse aides, the facility has access to certain records and one is bouncing a check which is a form of fraud, they can and do refuse to hire...same with some DWI's....this is wrong.
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
LOL...I thought the picture of Gabbi shooting a gun was funny as hell for a couple of reasons...
1) You know that automatic she was firing had more than 7 rounds in it.
2) You know it wasn't done in NYS because A) it would have taken her about 50 years to get a pistol permit and B) she would have been denied said permit because she would be deemed 'mentally unfit/disabled' because of her head injury.
On a side note: Volvos are awesome cars. They hardly ever rust out (warranty against rust for at least 15 years) because the body is made of galvanized steel. The 5cyl engines are basically bulletproof and you can modify the crap out of them without them blowing up in a year. Airbags ,airbags, airbags! The new Volvos are full of them!
Even my 1995 850 T-5R has front and side airbags as well as 3 points restraints for all passengers, including the rear seat middle.
"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'
Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'
Government shouldn't be afraid of "the people" if government is afraid of "the people" then there is something wrong with what government is doing
why is our current government so afraid of gun owners? - the founders of our country weren't afraid of gun owners - they enlisted them to form our nation - this is a fundamental cornerstone this country was founded on
as for this chic - she should be raising $$$$ for mental health facilities - not background checks
Giffords IS a gun owner. She also a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment. Gabby is no flaming liberal nor is she anti gun.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Go exit3. Money for mental health facilities would have helped save a lot of lives. This woman is just bothering people, not helping. "Responsible Solutions"? If you have to call your group by a euphemism, you must be hiding something.
One of my friends has a really old Volvo, well over 200,000 miles on it, they just keep going.
Go exit3. Money for mental health facilities would have helped save a lot of lives. This woman is just bothering people, not helping. "Responsible Solutions"? If you have to call your group by a euphemism, you must be hiding something.
One of my friends has a really old Volvo, well over 200,000 miles on it, they just keep going.
So madam x, do you disagree with universal background checks on gun sales? Most Americans and the vast majority of the NRA agree with background checks for all weapons sales.
At many gun shows, you don't need a background check to buy a gun. If your address is an insane asylum, and you've been diagnosed as a psychopath, which would show up on a background check, all you would need is the money to purchase any gun. Just walk into the gun show, put down the $$$ and walk out with an assault rifle.
Giffords is working to close the Gun Show background check loophole that exists in many states.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I disagree with putting on a show for the cameras that conveniently distracts from the very, very serious issues of a)how we treat the seriously insane;and b) the real gun violence issue, the young black people in our cities being shot with illegal handguns, every single day. Our good for nothing community organizer of a President isn't going to do a damn thing about these issues which are life-and-death to his most ardent, and most desperate, supporters. The latest young man to fly over my house in a helicopter, do you think the president has even heard about that? Why not? Why is Ms. Gifford more important than he is?
I disagree with putting on a show for the cameras that conveniently distracts from the very, very serious issues of a)how we treat the seriously insane;and b) the real gun violence issue, the young black people in our cities being shot with illegal handguns, every single day. Our good for nothing community organizer of a President isn't going to do a damn thing about these issues which are life-and-death to his most ardent, and most desperate, supporters. The latest young man to fly over my house in a helicopter, do you think the president has even heard about that? Why not? Why is Ms. Gifford more important than he is?
Nice Rant! There... Feel better?
Giffords is working to find ways to prevent gun violence. If you support gun violence, then by all means oppose her.
What happens in your neighborhood is important... maybe more important than Giffords gun show photo op... or more important that the shape of the Schenectady/Scotia bridge, or the score at a local high school baseball game.
Crime in your neighborhood is important... but it has nothing to do with Giffords, a bridge or school sports. They are separate issues. Ranting about crime in your neighborhood has nothing to do with the others.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Yes, it does, Box, you are dense. The woman is allegedly doing something about gun violence. But I have gun violence in my city, all the time, and her standing around at a gun show does NOTHING AT ALL to fix the problems in my city. Why didn't she come here? Why don't any of the politicians come here? Gun violence is a separate issue from gun violence? For Heaven's sake! Maybe we can expand background checks at gun shows and the young men won't kill each other with illegal handguns anymore.
Yes, it does, Box, you are dense. The woman is allegedly doing something about gun violence. But I have gun violence in my city, all the time, and her standing around at a gun show does NOTHING AT ALL to fix the problems in my city. Why didn't she come here? Why don't any of the politicians come here? Gun violence is a separate issue from gun violence? For Heaven's sake! Maybe we can expand background checks at gun shows and the young men won't kill each other with illegal handguns anymore.
Speaking of "DENSE"!!!
Giffords is working for Federal Legislation to close loopholes for background checks at gun shows.
If guns used in your neighborhood were originally purchased at a gun show with out a background check... THEN SHE IS WORKING FOR YOU!!!
Giffords is doing what she cant to prevent gun violence. If you want to do the same, then by all means DO SO. Ranting on a message board won't help. But a public display of concerned citizens in your neighborhood to the Mayor, the Governor, The President, might help.
If you want to help... THEN HELP. If not, why condemn Giffords for trying to help? You can disagree with her methods, but she is doing something... something more likely to succeed than typing on a message board.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
There has been background checks for firearms at gun shows in NY for years, shootings in our neighborhoods continue. The Safe Act made private sales illegal without background checks, shootings in our neighborhoods continue. Criminals don't obey the laws and they never will, these "good gun laws" that box brings up only effect law abiding citizens. While the criminal goes to any corner to buy a gun you now have to jump through hoops to defend yourself. While the criminals have whatever capacity they want, you are now limited if you follow the new laws. The government is making it easier for you to become a victim of crimes while the criminals rub their hands together.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
There has been background checks for firearms at gun shows in NY for years, shootings in our neighborhoods continue. The Safe Act made private sales illegal without background checks, shootings in our neighborhoods continue. Criminals don't obey the laws and they never will, these "good gun laws" that box brings up only effect law abiding citizens. While the criminal goes to any corner to buy a gun you now have to jump through hoops to defend yourself. While the criminals have whatever capacity they want, you are now limited if you follow the new laws. The government is making it easier for you to become a victim of crimes while the criminals rub their hands together.
So lets have FEDERAL UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS, that check ALL GUNS at ALL GUNSHOWS.
Why would that law threaten you? It would help keep guns from being purchased in other states and used in ny state even in your community.
Guns from out-of-state make up the grand majority of city crimes
90% of all guns used in NY city crimes in 2011 came from out-of-state
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
You made my point criminals do not obey the law, there will still be a black market on guns that could not be stopped. Instead you want the only people to jump through hoops is the law abiding citizen. As I said I don't mind background checks, my problem is that is not where you wish to stop, you want the people who even pass the background checks to then be limited on what they could own. You don't give a fck about the crime you are just going after the guns themselves, you don't live where me and Madam does, you can sleep peacefully in your nice little area without having to hear shots or countless helicopters and sirens. Buy a house on Hamilton Hill or Harbor Hill and tell me if you feel safe to walk down the street a night alone without carrying some form of protection.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Outstanding!!! Henry is on record as supporting Background checks for all gun sales!
(Progress)
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Buy a house on Hamilton Hill or Harbor Hill and tell me if you feel safe to walk down the street a night alone without carrying some form of protection.
I wouldn't feel safe, and I would be heavily armed if I lived in that area. The crime in that area should not be allowed to flourish and continue.
The Police are here to Protect and Serve... that neighborhood is a prime example of the police either being unwilling or unable to handle the problem.
Would you all support more tax dollars to concentrate a force on that neighborhood? Would you support more tax dollars to hire more cops to be on patrol only in that neighborhood??
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Outstanding!!! Henry is on record as supporting Background checks for all gun sales!
(Progress)
I do, I don't support the government being involved on private sales though, I made that point many of times. Its not the governments business if I sell a gun to a life long friend or relative.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
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