Did anyone go to the Saratoga arms show? I ask because Gabby Giffords and her husband attended and gave a speech which was aired as live on channel 9. What I found weird was there was hardly no customers in the background and her applauses seemed to be only 3-4 people in the background which was her personal entourage of bodyguards and staff. It seems as if she went before the show opened, it gave the impression that she was welcomed at the event. If her and her husband has so much faith in what they believe in why didn't they stick around till the crowds showed up, I think we all know why that is. Look at the pictures, anyone who ever went to one of these shows knows it is packed within minutes of opening.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
They stayed away from the veggie and her Svengali like they were lepers, and they are. Nothing like making political hay on behalf of "the party."
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
They stayed away from the veggie and her Svengali like they were lepers, and they are. Nothing like making political hay on behalf of "the party."
I think they cleared out before the people came, they wouldn't want to know how the people really feel about the crap they were pushing.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
I think they cleared out before the people came, they wouldn't want to know how the people really feel about the crap they were pushing.
Huh. Most NRA members support background checks for gun purchases. That kind of crap???
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Huh. Most NRA members support background checks for gun purchases. That kind of crap???
Then they should of stuck around and talked to the people about it instead of showing up and then running away. Instead they were surrounded by guards which shows they didn't even trust the surroundings they were in, cowards they are.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Then they should of stuck around and talked to the people about it instead of showing up and then running away. Instead they were surrounded by guards which shows they didn't even trust the surroundings they were in, cowards they are.
Yea... they shoulda stuck around... what could happen? It's not like some GunHugger is gonna shoot em in the head or anything!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Yea... they shoulda stuck around... what could happen? It's not like some GunHugger is gonna shoot em in the head or anything!
So you admit they're to cowardly to stay and talk to the people, if you believe in something you should be willing to back it up even with your life. I seriously doubt no violence would have occurred but I guarantee they would of gotten a earful from people who don't like what they're talking about.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
So you admit they're to cowardly to stay and talk to the people, if you believe in something you should be willing to back it up even with your life. I seriously doubt no violence would have occurred but I guarantee they would of gotten a earful from people who don't like what they're talking about.
If they were talking to NRA members, then they would probably agreed on the need for background checks for gun purchases. Most NRA members, and the Giffords both support that proposal.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
According to a poll conducted in May by Republican pollster Frank Luntz, NRA members, overwhelmingly support measures typically described as “gun control:
1. Requiring criminal background checks on gun owners and gun shop employees. 87 percent of non-NRA gun-owners and 74 percent of NRA gun owners support the former, and 80 percent and 79 percent, respectively, endorse the latter.
2. Prohibiting terrorist watch list members from acquiring guns. Support ranges from 80 percent among non-NRA gun-owners to 71 percent among NRA members.
3. Mandating that gun-owners tell the police when their gun is stolen. 71 percent non-NRA gun-owners support this measure, as do 64 percent of NRA members.
4. Concealed carry permits should only be restricted to individuals who have completed a safety training course and are 21 and older. 84 percent of non-NRA and 74 percent of NRA member gun-owners support the safety training restriction, and the numbers are 74 percent and 63 percent for the age restriction.
5. Concealed carry permits shouldn’t be given to perpetrators of violent misdemeanors or individuals arrested for domestic violence. The NRA/non-NRA gun-owner split on these issues is 81 percent and 75 percent in favor of the violent misdemeanors provision and 78 percent/68 percent in favor of the domestic violence restriction.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
If they were talking to NRA members, then they would probably agreed on the need for background checks for gun purchases. Most NRA members, and the Giffords both support that proposal.
Reading the NY firearm forums I'm not getting that vibe nor did most of the people who attended the show. You bring the NRA into this like they matter, hate to break it to you but they don't.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Reading the NY firearm forums I'm not getting that vibe nor did most of the people who attended the show. You bring the NRA into this like they matter, hate to break it to you but they don't.
LMAO!!!
The NY FIrearms Forums???
WHY NOT "GUNHUGGERS R US"? WHY NOT "REDNECK MILITIA SKINHEADS AGAINST OBAMA"???
Firearms forums is your source???
You've posted several times Henry that "people you talk to"............ Yea if you only talk to Ron Paul Supporters, you'd think that Paul would have won every GOP Debate. If you only talk to a very very limited audience with, by definition "firearms forum", would be a biased group towards the very title of their forum.
Let me see.... I'll ask the Planned Parenthood Forum if they support abortion and let me guess what the answer would be
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Although in direct disagreement with the vast majority of Americans... Henry opts for a GunHuggers R US Forum instead of any unbiased assessment.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
So box believes a NRA poll carried out by a REPUBLICAN pollster, yeah I'm sure he takes all polls carried out by Frank Luntz as fact If the numbers were reversed would box have used it then, of course not he would have just found another source that fit his agenda. And again he makes it seem as if the NRA matters, they don't.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Henry votes with GunHuggers R US... America votes with Good Gun Laws:
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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