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there were no gangs......rivalry with football....egg throwing....shaving cream....but no gang wars....it was great back in those days....

Election Day football rivalry...Mont Pleasant vs. Nott terrace Blue Devils.....ahhhhhhhh.....those were the days, my friend.
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I equate public school to Walmart.  How many people enjoy going into Walmart?  How many people avoid going at all costs?  Imagine if you were forced to go shopping at Walmart everyday, how happy would you be?  That is public schooling.  


sharp object in my eye


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I guess those were just some old timers making stuff up about large gangs of kids from City schools coming into Rotterdam to fight the suburb kids.  You know how old guys like to talk.


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abc news and parenting experts say

- Don't yell at kids  - and parents need a time out  - use more carrot less stick

if you behave today - you get an iphone5
if you behave tomorrow - you gt a 70" tv

parenting is getting more and more expensive
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Quoted from exit3
abc news and parenting experts say

- Don't yell at kids  - and parents need a time out  - use more carrot less stick

if you behave today - you get an iphone5
if you behave tomorrow - you gt a 70" tv

parenting is getting more and more expensive


Put cameras and metal detectors in the house.  Use the I phone to track them, view their Internet history and TV viewing history with a smart TV.  Let them know their behavior is always being monitored.  Because that is the real world.


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http://www.ekahau.com/real-tim.....ucation-schools-k-12

sad that we've come to this....

just because it's there to us doesn't make it right.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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cattle have more freedom
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Close one of two high schools = overcrowding, more kids in one classroom (horrible teacher to student ratio), not an appropriate learning environment. School designated as violent and failing by state standards.

Close one of two middle schools = overcrowding, more kids in one classroom (horrible teacher to student ratio), not an appropriate learning environment. You guess the rest.

The school board could see this oncoming train coming towards them as soon as they closed Oneida Middle School.

Sorry Cicero, public schools have to stay open, it's our responsibility as adults to have free education for the masses. Although Schenectady REALLY needs a Charter School for both Middle & High Schools. Uniforms, strict rules...many Schenectady youth need that structure.

Put money into Charter Schools. Close one of the 15 or so elementary schools and put money in getting our kids to the finish line not just out of the starting gates.  
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Put money into Charter Schools. Close one of the 15 or so elementary schools and put money in getting our kids to the finish line not just out of the starting gates.  


I agree, but the teacher's union will clearly NOT allow it!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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The ratios in the elementary school are not good either. Every single one is a failing school. I don't see how closing one would improve the situation.
The middle school and high schools can't be ignored, but even worse elementary schools isn't going to improve education...or attract families.
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Sorry Cicero, public schools have to stay open, it's our responsibility as adults to have free education for the masses.  


When did it become your responsibility to give my child a "free" education?  sh*t, if I knew that, I would stop stressing... Like educating MY children was my responsibility.  How easy.  Phew!  So let me get this straight, I send my kids to the "free"  school to educate my kids. And this school has nearly a 50% failure rate, and I have to wait around until you(or the adults) fix my kids "free" school?  It sounds like a great system.  Hopefully my child ends up as one of the 50% that pass, and doesn't become a drug addict or mixed up in gang activity.

Dont be offended Rachel, that was a lot of tongue in cheek.  The point I was trying to make is - first education isn't free, and second - a child's education is the parents responsibility, not the parents contribution to a collective schooling that you throw your kid in and hope for the best.

Don't give up your control over your child's education.  Responsible parents sending their children to a failing/dangerous school and waiting for the collective to fix it is futile.  The damage to your child may already be done while waiting for the collective change to the school.

My suggestion for abolishing public school is to return the responsibility for educating children  back to the parent.  And with the end of public school and money back into the parents pocket, as well as the control on where they are schooled, it will correct the social problems.

There is nothing worse than feeling helpless to a system you really have no control over.  People panic when you suggest ending government schooling.  The thing is, do you really think millions of public school teachers and administration would go flip burger?  No, they would open schools to accommodate their customers.  


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How long before schools start injecting RF ID chips into the kids.

For their protection, of course.
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How long before schools start injecting RF ID chips into the kids.

For their protection, of course.


soon daniel son...soon.....

the public schools are now scouring for your childs dental records.....to 'prove' health...hahahahahaha...since when are
public schools now healthcare facilities



...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Quoted from CICERO


When did it become your responsibility to give my child a "free" education?  sh*t, if I knew that, I would stop stressing... Like educating MY children was my responsibility.  How easy.  Phew!  So let me get this straight, I send my kids to the "free"  school to educate my kids. And this school has nearly a 50% failure rate, and I have to wait around until you(or the adults) fix my kids "free" school?  It sounds like a great system.  Hopefully my child ends up as one of the 50% that pass, and doesn't become a drug addict or mixed up in gang activity.



Sad thing is, back in the 1960's and 70's, Schenectady schools ranked #3 in all of New York State...that's right, they were some of the best schools around. Back then there were more kids, a smaller budget, yet for some reason, it worked. Of course, GE was in full swing then too.

Now, there is a system in Schenectady that has hundreds of less students, a budget aound $60 million and it can't seem to graduate 60% of it's students. Maybe the fact that most of the budget is spent ensuring retirement/pensions, lifelong medical benefits, salaries of $100k for admin. A strong union is one thing, but when that interferes with educating kids, we as New Yorkers should begin to open our eyes.

You can't simply shut down schools or ask all parents to participate in their kids education when the sad truth is, more taxpayer money is being spent on everything OTHER than the kids LEARNING needs. Follow the school taxpayers dollars...maybe a few cents buy books and educational materials..the rest go into a union 'fund'.
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The Common Core Curriculum is like the NSA, only they tell you they are spying on your child.
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