It wasn't the social setting for that type of conversation. I was a guest at the party, the person wasn't my friend. I just listened. And again, his emphasis was on his compensation, nothing about volunteering to protect my freedom. At least he was honest.
Really? Thought social settings were where people expressed their views in conversations. Why hide your views instead of being vocal in that setting where others could join the conversation and agree or offer disagreement? As for him being HONEST...guess that's not true! See people like him are what give others a bad name....you understand how that is, right!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
So a casualty rate only matters on how the casualty happened, somehow 1 cop killed on duty is worse then 10 loggers who died by accident? So again what you are saying is there is a higher class of people, some lives are worth more then others and they deserve special treatment...gotcha.
Do I really have to go back to posting the definition of a Straw Man again? Is your thinking that basic that Straw Men make sense to you?
OK... this is what Henry said that I posted:
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a casualty rate only matters on how the casualty happened, and 1 cop killed on duty is worse then 10 loggers who died by accident and there is a higher class of people, some lives are worth more then others and they deserve special treatment
Jezzzz! This IS the third grade again!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Clearly my post shows an economic benefit. So again ask... Please show my post where I stated that: 1 there are no economic benefits to military service
Ohhh....When you posted the $.30 per hour, I thought that was you demonstrating why people DON'T join for money. My bad.
Really? Thought social settings were where people expressed their views in conversations. Why hide your views instead of being vocal in that setting where others could join the conversation and agree or offer disagreement? As for him being HONEST...guess that's not true! See people like him are what give others a bad name....you understand how that is, right!
There is acceptable decorum in different social settings. Sometimes you have to make a judgement as to whether topics of conversation fit the decorum. I felt in this situation, challenging this person would have been inappropriate.
Ohhh....When you posted the $.30 per hour, I thought that was you demonstrating why people DON'T join for money. My bad.
NO NO NO Cissy. Don't run away from your own comment.
Yet again ask... Please show my post where I stated that: 1. there are no economic benefits to military service
Since you apparently CAN'T show that I posted YOUR statement... I await your apology!
(Love how Cissy is backpedaling from his comments! "I THOUGHT")
There are obviously 'economic benefits' to joining the military... Cissy has backed himself into a corner and now is desperately trying to extricate himself gracefully.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
There is acceptable decorum in different social settings. Sometimes you have to make a judgement as to whether topics of conversation fit the decorum. I felt in this situation, challenging this person would have been inappropriate.
I personally know of a woman (foreign but citizen) who's 22 year old son just joined a branch in the military solely to get an education!! TRUTH!!! His mom HATES the fact that he joined but understood that since she could not afford to send him to college, he had no other choice. AND...when they came to recruit him, 'EDUCATION' is how they sold it to him. In fact that is ALL they talked about!!!
I kinda chuckled...he's a VERY fragile 5' and weighs 110 lbs!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
I personally know of a woman (foreign but citizen) who's 22 year old son just joined a branch in the military solely to get an education!! TRUTH!!! His mom HATES the fact that he joined but understood that since she could not afford to send him to college, he had no other choice. AND...when they came to recruit him, 'EDUCATION' is how they sold it to him. In fact that is ALL they talked about!!!
I kinda chuckled...he's a VERY fragile 5' and weighs 110 lbs!!!
5' - 110 lbs behind the trigger or on a joystick or launching a cruise missile is just as effective as a 6', 200 lbs.
'Tunnel rats' were often the smallest Marine in the unit, doing the most dangerous jobs.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I personally know of a woman (foreign but citizen) who's 22 year old son just joined a branch in the military solely to get an education!! TRUTH!!! His mom HATES the fact that he joined but understood that since she could not afford to send him to college, he had no other choice.
One of the 'selling points' of the military is it's education program. Right Wingers have long known that and use it for their purposes. When times are tough in an 'all volunteer military', Conservatives called their policy and "Economic Draft".
BTW, one of the reasons the USA excelled in the Space Race is due to the GI bill and all those military who returned from WW2 & Korea and got a college degree. That pool of educated Veterans enabled our success in space.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
NO NO NO Cissy. Don't run away from your own comment.
Yet again ask... Please show my post where I stated that: 1. there are no economic benefits to military service
Since you apparently CAN'T show that I posted YOUR statement... I await your apology!
(Love how Cissy is backpedaling from his comments! "I THOUGHT")
There are obviously 'economic benefits' to joining the military... Cissy has backed himself into a corner and now is desperately trying to extricate himself gracefully.
No box, don't run away from your argument. I stick by statement, military is a job, occupation, source of income. It was you that tried to sell it as some noble service that deserves "special" recognition on a drivers license, and special discounts at retail stores, and special tax breaks on property tax.
I love when box plays the game after he gets caught out there contradicting his own arguments in the same thread. First he said they don't serve for the money because they make $165 a month, $.30 per hour, working 7 days a week, 24 hours a day, blah-blah-blah. Then within the same thread, he defends the career serviceman bragging about the economic benefits of the military.
C'mon box, which is it? Is it a sacrifice for the love if country, honor, duty, and all that other happy horse sh!t? Or is it a career with competitive pay, benefits, and pension?
No box, don't run away from your argument. I stick by statement, military is a job, occupation, source of income. It was you that tried to sell it as some noble service that deserves "special" recognition on a drivers license, and special discounts at retail stores, and special tax breaks on property tax.
I love when box plays the game after he gets caught out there contradicting his own arguments in the same thread. First he said they don't serve for the money because they make $165 a month, $.30 per hour, working 7 days a week, 24 hours a day, blah-blah-blah. Then within the same thread, he defends the career serviceman bragging about the economic benefits of the military.
C'mon box, which is it? Is it a sacrifice for the love if country, honor, duty, and all that other happy horse sh!t? Or is it a career with competitive pay, benefits, and pension?
Again, watch Cissy run from his own words. He types enough of them and he thinks that the numbers cover his tracks.
The FACTS Cissy posted that I said: "1. there are no economic benefits to military service"
That may have been what Cicero got out of my post... but it's NOT WHAT I POSTED. If I'm wrong... then please Cicero... stop tap dancin and show my post where I posted: "1. there are no economic benefits to military service" otherwise... I will accept your retraction. (The rest is just smoke to cover Cicero's incompetence.)
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Again, watch Cissy run from his own words. He types enough of them and he thinks that the numbers cover his tracks.
The FACTS Cissy posted that I said: "1. there are no economic benefits to military service"
That may have been what Cicero got out of my post... but it's NOT WHAT I POSTED. If I'm wrong... then please Cicero... stop tap dancin and show my post where I posted: "1. there are no economic benefits to military service" otherwise... I will accept your retraction. (The rest is just smoke to cover Cicero's incompetence.)
Lol, c'mon box...Go back to my first post in this thread, where I clearly state the military is a job. Then you posted that service isn't for the money with your $.30 per hour post. I already posted your statement defending veterans service as something other than for pay. How many times do you want me to post it? I can't help it if you can't follow along.
Side note, an E4 with 5 years service receives about $48k per year if you combine salary and housing allowance. And that housing allowance is tax free, about $1600 a month.
Lol, c'mon box...Go back to my first post in this thread, where I clearly state the military is a job. Then you posted that service isn't for the money with your $.30 per hour post. I already posted your statement defending veterans service as something other than for pay. How many times do you want me to post it? I can't help it if you can't follow along.
Side note, an E4 with 5 years service receives about $48k per year if you combine salary and housing allowance. And that housing allowance is tax free, about $1600 a month.
Cicero is dancin as fast as he can but it doesn't change the facts.
The FACTS Cissy posted that I said: "1. there are no economic benefits to military service"
This must be the 4th or 5th time I'm asking... If I posted it... WHERE IS IT?
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Cicero is dancin as fast as he can but it doesn't change the facts.
The FACTS Cissy posted that I said: "1. there are no economic benefits to military service"
This must be the 4th or 5th time I'm asking... If I posted it... WHERE IS IT?
LOLOLOL! That's all yeah got? Man, you're twisting in the wind.
Military service = JOB.(paying more than thirty cents per hour) You can admit it box. It's alright. There are enlisted military proudly walking around boasting about their pay.
Veterans are nothing special.(except they chose a job that requires killing another human being on command) and get compensated pretty well to do it, if you compare it to the average salary.
LOLOLOL! That's all yeah got? Man, you're twisting in the wind.
Military service = JOB.(paying more than thirty cents per hour) You can admit it box. It's alright. There are enlisted military proudly walking around boasting about their pay.
Veterans are nothing special.(except they chose a job that requires killing another human being on command) and get compensated pretty well to do it, if you compare it to the average salary.
Last time to come clean Cicero... Did I post: "1. there are no economic benefits to military service" Or did I not.
It's really not that complicated.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Logged
This IS the third grade again!
Cicero is dancin as fast as he can but it doesn't change the facts.
