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I think the founding fathers would be ashamed if they found out that their version of the 2nd amendment would lead to the deaths of so many Americans.
Their version was just a right that existed before they even put it on paper, that is why it is a right not a privilege. The right to bear arms didn't come the day they said it did |
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Their version was just a right that existed before they even put it on paper, that is why it is a right not a privilege. The right to bear arms didn't come the day they said it did
Yadda yadda yadda. The RIGHTS no matter how you look at them, are only guaranteed in the USA by the constitution. The 2nd amendment right is not an unlimited right to own any weapon you want for any purpose. |
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Yadda yadda yadda. The RIGHTS no matter how you look at them, are only guaranteed in the USA by the constitution. The 2nd amendment right is not an unlimited right to own any weapon you want for any purpose.
Says your opinion, good thing your opinion doesn't matter when it comes to my rights |
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Follow Cissy's silly logic further... "Why Should the Cops Have All the Fun Speeding... I WANT FLASHING RED LIGHTS AND A SIREN TOO!"
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"WHY SHOULD ONLY COPS PUT THEIR LIVES IN DANGER ANSWERING DANGEROUS CALLS... WHY SHOULDN'T ALL CITIZENS BE FORCED TO DO THAT DANGEROUS WORK." (Equal opportunity)
Cissy's point of view is so ridiculous it doesn't even warrant a reply!
You false analogy logic is incorrect. I didn't say anything about speeding and sirens. Cops aren't forced to do dangerous work, they choose to do it and get paid. You suggest citizens be forced to restrict their weapon options while a select group of citizens have access to more powerful weapons. I do not suggest restricting weapons for government agents, but giving them the same access as the rest of the citizens. You still never answered why one class of citizen gets access to more powerful weapons than other citizens? Why does one group need more powerful weapons? |
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I think the founding fathers would be ashamed if they found out that their version of the 2nd amendment would lead to the deaths of so many Americans.
I'm going to project that the founding fathers would be ashamed if they found out that their version of life and freedom would lead to abortion.... box,,,human nature will remain the same.....the only changes in the world are different shackles and other made up fears...fears used by the government are just like the fears used by the churches.... oh my the sins of mankind.....whoa is me........ |
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You still never answered why one class of citizen gets access to more powerful weapons than other citizens? Why does one group need more powerful weapons?
Jezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. There are none so blind as those who will not see. Who NEEDS assault weapons? The military? I say YES, Cicero says no everyone. Who needs assault weapons? The police? I say yes, Cicero says no. In the past (I've posted the video twice) the police were outgunned by criminals in a shootout. The criminals robbed a bank, but needed the firepower to fight the police NOT THE PUBLIC! Would Cicero or Henry go after these bad guys? NO way. They are hiding in their bunkers waiting for the coming race war... So who? Of course, the answer that Cissy ignores... THE POLICE. What should they use against criminals armed with body armor and assault weapons??? Pistols? I think not. The police NEED assault weapons on certain occasions to capture like armed criminals. Henry needs his automatic weapons for the coming race war and Cicero needs his automatic weapons for the day he sees the govt collapse. Everyone else doesn't need them for anything. |
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Would Cicero or Henry go after these bad guys? NO way. They are hiding in their bunkers waiting for the coming race war... So who?
Poor box needing to rely on others for his safety, how sad. |
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...Sen. Dianne Feinstein, one of the strongest proponents of a ban on assault weapons like the AR-15, to issue a statement the same day asking, "When will enough be enough?"
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or ill it teaches the whole people by its example. - Timothy McVeigh
Additionally, borrowing a page from U.S. foreign policy, I decided to send a message to a government that was becoming increasingly hostile. - Timothy McVeigh
Based on observations of the policies of my own government, I viewed this action as an acceptable option. - Timothy McVeighLeaders need to lead by example.
Killing has become acceptable as a problem solving tool! |
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Jezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Who NEEDS assault weapons? The military? I say YES, Cicero says no everyone.
Who needs assault weapons? The police? I say yes, Cicero says no.
What should they use against criminals armed with body armor and assault weapons??? Pistols? I think not.
The police NEED assault weapons on certain occasions to capture like armed criminals.
Everyone else doesn't need them for anything.
SWITZERLAND WOULD LABEL YOU A WHACKJOB.
They don't have a homicidal government teaching homicide as a problem solving tool.
Everyone can, and most of them do, have automatic weapons.
They are a thousand times safer than any US citizen.
They don't bankrupt their government building weapons of mass destruction.
They issue weapons of mass protection. |
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Poor box needing to rely on others for his safety, how sad.
I rely on myself for my safety. Note to others living with Henry (especially women)... the presence of a gun in your house is more dangerous than living in a house without one. I rely on the police to catch criminals. |
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I rely on myself for my safety. Note to others living with Henry (especially women)... the presence of a gun in your house is more dangerous than living in a house without one.
I rely on the police to catch criminals.
definition of criminal please.... |
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definition of criminal please....
No thanks senders... you're on your own. I'm done. |
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definition of a criminal is a human being that although not convicted but is purported/charged with a crime and is not a criminal yet, has money extorted from them, possible loss of job, family, community respect,,,,all because a neighbor thought what they did was a crime and the police that respond look at how neighbor looks and decide if it is worthy of the hassle...
thought #1 "I get paid to do this" thought #2 "person calling police looks like me and legitimate" thought #3 "it looks good on my eval" thought #4 (sometimes confused with #2) "my coworkers will pat me on the back"
definition of criminal(precrime of course) is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ |
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No thanks senders... you're on your own. I'm done.
you are kidding aren't you??? |
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