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Libertarian4life
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YUP! A man with obvious mental issues who has had firearms incidents in the past, went and
bought himself a shotgun.

Just think if there were a FEDERAL GUN REGISTRY and a FEDERAL BACKGROUND CHECK
on every purchase and A FEDERAL LIST OF THOSE WHO'VE USED GUNS IN CRIMES, with
A FEDERAL 2 WEEK WAITING PERIOD ...
This guy would not have been able to purchase his shotgun.


Stop fighting to restrict the Bill Of Rights.

You are an embarrassment to freedom loving Americans.

Democracy has allowed the government to enact laws trampling the Bill of Rights.

The Bill Of Rights was meant to limit laws, not be limited by them.

Corporate favoritism, you blame the corporations(the 1%),
I blame bad laws that allow corporations to be treated more equally than everyone else.

Failing economy, you blame the banks and the corporations,
I blame the laws enacted that interfered with free trade.

Gun violence, you blame video games, the 2nd amendment, semi-automatic weapons,
I blame all the bad laws that interfered with the right to bear arms, AND
the actions of the government showing how killing is acceptable whenever you feel it justified.

Welfare, most blame the recipients or corporations,
I blame the laws that redistributed the wealth every year more and more.

People not having health care, people blame everyone except the ones who caused all the
problems, the lawmakers that regulated business and the entire health industry.

Almost every problem in America is a direct result of not using the Bill Of Rights and the
Constitution to limit lawmakers.

75% of all laws are unconstitutional or against the wishes of the founding fathers, as they
intended lawmaking to be limited and guided by them. They pass laws every day redistributing
the collective wealth, they provide mafia style protection from competition and totally crushed
the concept of free trade.

I don't blame the corporations that expertly learned to used the redistribution system.

I don't blame the welfare recipients that expertly learned to used the redistribution system.

I don't blame the police, the military or even the tax collectors, they are unable to act
independently outside the rules set forth by the ignorant lawmakers, who enact laws
favoring one party over the next.

All you need is the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights to be honored and clearly not be
infringed by any legislation.

I blame the voters for voting for their favorite entitlement wielding Santa Claus.

Everyone votes for their own candidate that will bring favoritism their way.

People are so far under the government entitlement chains of slavery, they can
no longer see that democracy has allowed majority rule to crush and trample the
rights of the people and trash the Constitution for their own newly legislated
entitled favoritism.

We need Libertarians in office to do away with bad laws that redistribute wealth
and restrict rights , disallowing everyone from playing on a fair and even field.

Keep pointing fingers.

You get the government that you allow.

They buy your votes with perks and favoritism and use the office they get
elected to, for financial gain for themselves and their supporters.


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CICERO
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Just think if there were a FEDERAL GUN REGISTRY and a FEDERAL BACKGROUND CHECK
on every purchase and A FEDERAL LIST OF THOSE WHO'VE USED GUNS IN CRIMES, with
A FEDERAL 2 WEEK WAITING PERIOD ...
This guy would not have been able to purchase his shotgun.


How do the gangsters in Chicago get all those handguns?


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Box A Rox
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How do the gangsters in Chicago get all those handguns?


There is a steady supply from southern states by people who make their living buying guns then
transporting them to Chicago.  

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Mayors Against Illegal Guns also looked at which states export
guns used in crimes; Mississippi had the highest number per 100,000 residents
(50.3); Indiana came in 8th; Kentucky, another border state, was third. Illinois
was 43rd, with 6.9 crime guns exported per 100k residents, and for every gun
that originates in Illinois and is used in a crime, more than four originate
elsewhere and are used in crimes here
(specifically, 844 to 3643 in 2009).


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More than a quarter of the firearms seized on the streets here by the Chicago
Police Department over the past five years were bought just outside city limits in Cook
County suburbs, according to an analysis by the University of Chicago Crime Lab. Others
came from stores around Illinois and from other states, like Indiana, less than an hour’s
drive away. Since 2008, more than 1,300 of the confiscated guns, the analysis showed,
were bought from just one store, Chuck’s Gun Shop in Riverdale, Ill., within a few miles
of Chicago’s city limits.


There Cicero.  Now that I've answered your question, here is the solution:
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A FEDERAL GUN REGISTRY and a FEDERAL BACKGROUND CHECK
on every purchase and A FEDERAL LIST OF THOSE WHO'VE USED GUNS IN CRIMES, with
A FEDERAL 2 WEEK WAITING PERIOD ...



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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September 20, 2013, 7:43am Report to Moderator

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Yeah another law should do the trick even though the criminals didn't follow the other laws Libtard logic


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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There is a steady supply from southern states by people who make their living buying guns then
transporting them to Chicago.  


There Cicero.  Now that I've answered your question, here is the solution:



And gun smuggling from boarder countries?  You know, like fast and furious, just in reverse.

We do such a good job preventing illegal drugs from crossing the boarder.  It's nearly impossible to buy black market drugs in American after the outright prohibition of them.


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Henry and cicero are so afraid of good Federal Gun Laws... their fear is that they will work.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Henry and cicero are so afraid of good Federal Gun Laws... their fear is that they will work.


Yes, just like federal drug laws, I fear that they will work.  30+ years of success.  

Even the highly regulated and controlled perscription drugs are now becoming a growing problem on the black market.  
So I give you examples of federal prohibition and strict regulations of drugs, but they both seem ineffective at preventing people from getting them.  Guns will be different though.


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The Federal Government did a background check on the Navy yard shooter and then gave him top secret clearance, the government does such a good job with everything they handle.
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Henry and cicero are so afraid of good Federal Gun Laws... their fear is that they will work.


If a criminal won't obey the laws on the books now how would a new law stop it, answer is they won't. What you suggest would only target the people who would go through the legal means but it would only make them jump more hurdles. In fact law abiding citizens are now having to go against laws like the Safe Act because it is making their hobby almost impossible to enjoy. Sheriffs in NY are openly stating they will not enforce it because (their words) they fear a revolt could ensue.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Sheriffs in NY are openly stating they will not enforce it because (their words) they fear a revolt
could ensue.


A GuhHuggers Militia Revolt...  Nothing new there is there.  Those wackos have been threatening
to "overthrow the govt" for at least the last 30 years!  Long before the Safe Act.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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  Those wackos have been threatening
to "overthrow the govt" for at least the last 30 years!  Long before the Safe Act.


I heard no threats made nor do they have to be made, the sheriffs just know the law went to far and the people won't put up with it.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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I heard no threats made nor do they have to be made, the sheriffs just know the law went to far and the people won't put up with it.


The "PEOPLE"???
The "PEOPLE" pass the laws through their legislators.  Those who won't put up with it are Right Wing
Radical TeaBaggers.  Not actual people!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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The people pass laws through their legislatures, what a joke that is. If that were the case then every major bill should be voted on by we the people on election day. Did you vote for your legislatures pay raises? How about their exemption to Obamacare, did you vote for that. Lawmakers only take care of themselves and the taxpayers who pay the bill don't get a say until the lawmaker is up for re-election. Come on 2014.
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The "PEOPLE"???
The "PEOPLE" pass the laws through their legislators.  Those who won't put up with it are Right Wing
Radical TeaBaggers.  Not actual people!  


Do you remember how the Safe Act was passed box, if not don't comment on it. The people had no time to contact their reps and it was voted on with very short notice. And those who won't obey it come in all political directions, right, left, and center, I talked to enough people about it to know what people think of it. You will see the fail of it soon box when the deadline for registering the guns is non-existent, nobody I know or talked to said they're going to be registering sh*t with the state, that is the attitude of the PEOPLE, not your little twinkle toed group you hang out with.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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The "PEOPLE"???
The "PEOPLE" pass the laws through their legislators.  Those who won't put up with it are Right Wing
Radical TeaBaggers.  Not actual people!  


the people get duped with legal mumbo jumbo they don't understand(thanks to public education) and cliche's like
fu(king 'zero tolerance'....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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