Gazette has a story about the Holiday Inn on Nott Terrace to be redone.
Of course the word "Metroplex" is in the story
It is quite obvious from the report that people are NOT coming to Schenectady because the this project will REDUCE the number of rooms FROM 183 TO 124.
Will be waiting to here how much of a property tax exemption it gets.
Metroplex has STILL NOT reported on the occupancy rate of the other government hotel.
Waiting to see the pom poms in this thread.
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
Does it say its taxpayer money? I've stayed in a few Holiday Inns over the past few years and they had all either been redone or where in the process of a re-do. The front desk people said it was accompany wide push to modernize their image. Could this just be part of this national trend?
I hope it isn't metroplex. I noticed that the news is touting that Ghost musical coming to Proctor's as being especially lucrative for the area, because the crew has come ahead to do the tech work, whatever that is, on site, and they said how they have been spending money at local places like Johnny's. I hate a push for tax credits disguised as news. Anyway, they said in the article that they are expected to spend $30,000 on rental cars among other things, and I'm thinking if they are here spending zillions at local businesses what are they doing with that many rental cars? With Proctor's as the 'economic engine', tell me again why Jason Cuthbert was wrong when he said the city should be getting a larger share of the sales tax?
Does it say its taxpayer money? I've stayed in a few Holiday Inns over the past few years and they had all either been redone or where in the process of a re-do. The front desk people said it was accompany wide push to modernize their image. Could this just be part of this national trend?
but in Schenectady the land of the corporate giveaway checks are given on the mention of a project
County ups Proctor's bed tax take By Jessica Harding First Posted: Wednesday, October 3, 2007 -7:23 a.m. Sign in to favorite this Discuss Comment, Blog about Share this Email, Facebook, Twitter # The Schenectady County Legislature voted to amend the bed tax law at a special meeting Tuesday, Sept 25.
# Anyone who stays at a hotel or motel within Schenectady County is charged a 4 percent tax. A percentage of the revenue is given to Proctor's Theater. At Tuesday's meeting the legislature voted to cap the amount of money Proctor's receives from the bed tax to $200,000 for the next 15 years.
# Last year Proctor's received $175,000 from the bed tax and is expected to receive close to $200,000 this year. Over the course of the agreement Proctor's is expected to receive close to $3 million.
# The county's bed tax law was first enacted in the 1985 as a way to save the deteriorating Proctor's Theater.
# The bed tax money sometimes meant the difference between success and failure, Proctor's chief operations manager Dan Sheehan said.
# The Schenectady County Legislature has given Proctor's $1.5 million toward its $30 million renovation project including $450,000 at the last regular meeting.
# At the meeting, two county residents said they weren't happy about the Legislature's actions in spending public money to fund a private business.
# Kevin March of Rotterdam said the revenues generated through the bed tax could go toward property tax relief in a community with some of the highest taxes in the country.
# Ron Renaud, a Rotterdam business owner, said while governments are looking to be charitable, doing so with other people's money isn't charity; it's theft.
# "If private businesses don't do so well, then the public has spoken," he said. "It is not the responsibility of the county to be charitable with other people's money."
# Legislator Joseph Suhrada, R-Rotterdam, also voted against the law's amendment. He said he was doing so to give a voice to the county's taxpayers.
# "No on can dispute Proctor's as the rightful gem of Schenectady, and this county saved Proctor's," he said. "I am going to be the one dissenting vote to remind this Legislature that no matter what there are taxpayers in every decision we make."
County ups Proctor's bed tax take By Jessica Harding First Posted: Wednesday, October 3, 2007 -7:23 a.m. Sign in to favorite this Discuss Comment, Blog about Share this Email, Facebook, Twitter # Chairwoman of the Legislature Susan Savage, D-Niskayuna, said bed tax revenues are generated from folks who do not live in Schenectady County but are coming into the community to visit. Proctor's inadvertently brings people into the community to see shows and for conferences.
# Savage also said that Proctor's helps generate sales tax revenues from people who come downtown to see shows and shop and eat at local restaurants.
# "The sales tax is distributed to other municipalities, so even if you don't live in Schenectady, even if you've never been to Proctor's, you benefit anyway," she said.
# Legislator Vincent DiCerbo, D-Schenectady, said he doesn't see any problem with governments contributing to the arts. He said no one has a problem with Albany County owning the Palace Theater or the state having an influence in the Saratoga Performing Arts Center and the Saratoga Race Track.
# "Governments are always supporting the arts," he said. "I'm not concerned about the money. Look at the loss of revenue without Proctor's."
# Legislator Gary Hughes, D-Schenectady, said Proctor's has been behind Schenectady's revitalization. He said even with the new stage, which was completed in 2004, Proctor's brought in 80,000 people during the month that "Phantom of the Opera" ran, and those people spent close to $10 million in the county according to the Chamber of Commerce.
# Legislator Robert Farley, R-Glenville, also supported the amendment. Farley was a legislator when the bed tax law was first enacted.
# "Proctor's is our community theater," he said. "It is the thing that people associate Schenectady with, and the community supports it."
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Plans call for a $7 million renovation of the Holiday Inn
By Eric Anderson Published 7:32 pm, Wednesday, September 11, 2013
Schenectady
The Capital Region could get its first Doubletree by Hilton hotel under plans for a $7 million renovation and rebranding of the Schenectady Holiday Inn.
The project includes new entrance, common areas, facade, elevators, gym and pool, as well as full-service restaurant for the Nott Terrace hotel.
Owner of the Holiday Inn is Schahet Hotels of Indianapolis, which also owns the Hampton Inn around the corner on State Street.
Schenectady's planning commission will review plans at its meeting next Wednesday.
Work would start later this year and the hotel's owners want to complete it by late next year, said Ray Gillen, chairman of the Schenectady Metroplex Development Corp.
"We partnered with them on the new Hampton Inn and we're looking forward to working with them on this project," Gillen said late Wednesday afternoon, identifying the rebranded hotel as a Doubletree by Hilton.
Regionally, Doubletree by Hilton includes hotels in Syracuse, Binghamton, Tarrytown, Burlington, Vt. and Hartford, Conn.
Officials at Schahet couldn't be reached Wednesday afternoon for comment.
Hey.........these 'transit performers' want prostitutes too!!! Perhaps even 'drugs'. And what a better place to find both. It's a win-win for everyone BUT THE TAXPAYERS!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Yeah Schenectady is ALLEGEDLY such a popular destination that this project is to REDUCE the number of rooms available by OVER 30% !!!!!
Proves that the hotel lodging in the city is NOT full. And the taxpayers are subsidizing it!
Just like Proctors is NOT sold out and the taxpayers have to make up the difference to keep King Phillip's income up there because he CAN'T sell is city house which he has mortgaged so many times that the mortgage is $100K above what the place is worth.
Hey, how about all those Section 8 applicants apply to rent his city house. Remember, contrary to the official definition per government records, id DOES have two kitchens. So it is at least two family house. Just think he could rent to two Section 8 families. Section 8 they have them pay 1/3 of their gross income, so if they are a family working in one of those downtown businesses, in all thousands of jobs allegedly created, those minimum wage dishwashers, cashiers, maids, etc, if the income is just hovering around $8 an hour then that's just over $15,000 a year then the tenants would pay only just about $425 per month (two families then would be $850 a month) and then the government would make up the difference, after all that, he could be raking in $2,000 a month. That exceeds what he was trying to rent the place for!
And then, hey, he could become tax exempt on that house, he'd get McCheese's political crony attorneys to successfully have the house declared a non-profit, you know, renting to the otherwise homeless, but low income families. King Philips city house would officially be defined as public housing
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
i'm not against section 8 housing. there are some folks who 'really' 'legally' need it!!! HOWEVER.....there are clearly TOOOOOOO many slumlords and TOOOOOOO many who don't 'really' 'legally' need it!!!
like i said....there are some folks who live down south(out of nys) and use their parent's address to receive nys/SCUMnectady welfare/medicaid. they come up here when they need to re-apply. and there are many who live in nyc who are either collecting SCUMnectady welfare benefits or are the slumlords!!!
IT'S A CORRUPT MESS!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
The section eight supports the downstate "investors" who are the only ones who can afford the taxes here. But because they pay property taxes with money they are getting from the government, it's a shell game, much like Proctor's. Where is all this sales tax money generated by Proctor's, when it comes to be budget time? Why did Mr. Cuthbert leave city hall one step ahead of the sheriff? Why hasn't Proctor's lowered our taxes? If Proctor's is making Schenectady great, why isn't it great here? As I posted on another thread, downtown Detroit has a shiny, big Renaissance Center. Some renaissance, huh? Holiday Inn gets business from GE and Union College. Neither one of those was brought to you by Metroplex, and neither one is helping the tax situation. Another thing I've noticed, the low level jobs at Holiday Inn and the place across the street all seem to be filled by foreigners. As if we don't have plenty of unskilled labor idle around that area. I know the jobs don't pay much, but people can still receive section 8 and food stamps while working, so I don't know why some of these "programs" haven't got some of these people into jobs. I know that some of them have too many problems to be employable, but all of them?
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