The positive side is for the business owners who make big money and don't pay property taxes and the out of town patrons who could care less about the city outside of the "proctors zone"...There has been NO positive side for the residents...Neighborhoods that look like war zones, a key bridge that is out and probably will be for years, pools that can't open during the summer due to lack of funds, taxes that have the lowest value per dollar paid in the state, housing values that continue to go down while just about every municipality around it has housing values that are going up...yeah, not much positive there for the residents
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Did you actually READ the article CAREFULLY? Proctor's generates $30 million a year in ECONOMIC ACTIVITY IN THE REGION -- that is the money spent by all those people (who you folks claim don't exist) who eat and shop in Schenectady when they come to see shows at Proctor's. The articles does NOT say that Proctor's itself made $30 million dollars. Proctor's is an INVESTMENT that brings people into the county and into downtown. Also, if movie producers from out of state can get tax incentives from New York State, why shouldn't we provide tax incentives for producers from New York who produce plays and shows ?
Of course, you have not produced one teeny weeny shred of EVIDENCE to prove those numbers.
Secondly, IF all that money is coming in, where is it going?
1. Tell us what this so called investment has done for the tax base, especially in the city.
2. Tell us what this so called investment has done for the desirability of people to buy homes and live IN the city by virtue of the numbers of sales (heck, YOU, yourself, REFUSE to even rent in the city. YOU, yourself, by YOUR VERY OWN ACTIONS have proven that the city is NOT a desirable place to buy or rent as you are doing neither).
3. Tell us what this so called investment has done for the homeowners/taxpayers' property values
4. Tell us what this so called investment has done for the the home sale prices.
5. Tell us what this so called investment has done for the conditions of the neighborhoods in the city
6. Tell us what this so called investment has done for Central Park, once called the crown jewel of the city.
7. Tell us what this so called investment has done to ESSENTIAL city services to the RESIDENTS, those who actually have to write out checks to the city for taxes.
8. Tell us what this so called investment has done to the tax bills of the homeowners in the city.
REST ASSURED, DV will NOT answer those questions. Sure, he'll probably post, spewing babble, but will NOT produce ONE, not one, teeny weeny shred of evidence.
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
Paying outrageous taxes by supporting the welfare queens like Philip Moriss is what is driving people out of Schenectady.
Low taxes and controlled government spending brings people into a city/town/village.
Proctors may bring in some visitors, but we need to build the tax base, not bring in visitors to frequent the tax exempt empire.
Look at Malta. The lowest taxes in the region.
People are coming in droves.
Their tax base is growing.
Schenectady's tax base is dissolving.
Property values declining steadily.
From corporate welfare.
Get real --
Malta got a boost from over a billion dollars in New York State $ to finance Global Foundries. Global Foundries has gotten tax breaks and wants more. Global Foundries wouldn't have come Malta without getting the tax breaks and taxpayer funded financing. Without those state tax dollars and Global Foundries, Malta would still be "Mobile Home Manor."
Saratoga County has benefited from decades of letting the rest of New York State pay for its police protection and bushel loads of tax payer funded state dollars -- at both race tracks.. at S.P.A.C. and elsewhere.
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Malta got a boost from over a billion dollars in New York State $ to finance Global Foundries. Global Foundries has gotten tax breaks and wants more. Global Foundries wouldn't have come Malta without getting the tax breaks and taxpayer funded financing.
This IS true!!!!! And might we add that GLOBAL FOUNDRIES IS A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY....AND OWNED BY .....................The Emirate of Abu Dhabi is the owner of the company through its subsidiary Advanced Technology Investment Company!!!!!
They shouldn't have received one red cent of our tax dollars!!!!!
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Malta got a boost from over a billion dollars in New York State $ to finance Global Foundries. Global Foundries has gotten tax breaks and wants more. Global Foundries wouldn't have come Malta without getting the tax breaks and taxpayer funded financing. Without those state tax dollars and Global Foundries, Malta would still be "Mobile Home Manor."
Saratoga County has benefited from decades of letting the rest of New York State pay for its police protection and bushel loads of tax payer funded state dollars -- at both race tracks.. at S.P.A.C. and elsewhere.
Yet they managed to not kill the homeowners with corporate welfare.
......Without those state tax dollars and Global Foundries, Malta would still be "Mobile Home Manor."
Saratoga County has benefited from decades of letting the rest of New York State pay for its police protection and bushel loads of tax payer funded state dollars -- at both race tracks.. at S.P.A.C. and elsewhere.
Property taxes in Saratoga County are 1/3rd less than those in Schenectady County. And talk about being blindsighted...mobile home manor? At least Saratoga County isn't the DSS-Galesi-Haven for every welfare abuser in all of NYS.
Saratoga benefits from its diversity Downtown (mixed retail, office and restaurants), having those businesses PAY TAXES TO THE CITY AND SCHOOLS (not some phony PILOT), low property & school taxes (and no hidden 'garbage/sewer/water fees) and the County keeps growing & prospering.
Property, businessowners and families aren't stupid DV. They know where it's safe, affordable and better to live. That's NOT in Schenectady..
By generate $30 million in activity, he means our $30 million in tax money being spread around among the clan.
Morris ESTIMATED-translation total BS made up figures. Like the 2,000 jobs McCheese created while sitting on the City Council approving every tax increase. Of course there is a positive side to Proctor's look at Troy's version. But where is the taxpayer dividend? More and more sheeple are waking to the fact that this is by the elites for the elites. No crumbs have fallen to the taxpayers. Proctor's has repaid zero to the oppressed County taxpayers, taken Key Bank off the City Tax rolls causing a &80,000 loss in tax revenue EVERY YEAR, taken over the former Carl Company because no business wants anything to do with the tax hell. Morris himself has pulled a Denise Brucker fleeing the tax hell they created. Now another tax break for fat cats? More crony capitalism Schenectady style. Like Europe with the golden opera houses surround by ghettos we have Proctor's blocks from Hamilton Hill. Shocked that so called DEMS want to extend this inequity and corporate welfare. The circus flopped, Billy Elliott flopped and Ghosts is the biggest bomb yet. Keep the implosion going!
Malta got a boost from over a billion dollars in New York State $ to finance Global Foundries. Global Foundries has gotten tax breaks and wants more. Global Foundries wouldn't have come Malta without getting the tax breaks and taxpayer funded financing. Without those state tax dollars and Global Foundries, Malta would still be "Mobile Home Manor."
While I don't think it's right that Global got that money, please explain DV, what the taxpayers are getting as a return on that "investment" up there. I trust you will ADMIT the people, the homeowners, have much much lower taxes and have lots and lots of good paying jobs They have rapidly rising home values, sales are increasing.
In return for the hundreds of millions in tax money for Schenectady city, what are the homeowners getting for that? Low wage dishwasher and waiter and counter jobs. Falling home values, falling tax base, falling home sales, and massive increase in taxes.
REST ASSURED DV will NOt address the effects of tax money in the city WASTED on downtown, he will NOT address the falling tax base, the falling property values, falling home sales, falling home sale prices, fewer services to the residents, the ignoring of the neighborhoods, and the ever ever increasing taxes.
So, DV, just what are the city taxpayers getting for this so called investment in downtown? REST ASSURED - NO RESPONSE
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
Corporate welfare is wrong be it Metrograft or Global Foundries. The difference is that Global Foundries is creating private sector jobs and adding to the tax rolls not taking properties off the tax rolls. Morris is trying to divert attention from his box office bombs. Saratoga is booming with private sector developed condos and new industries. Schenectady County is sinking in debt with a County Home costing $500,000 a month. They DEMS have to give Galesi $500,000 to build APARTMENTS. Which will probably be Section 8. Not one condo can be sold in tax hell Schenectady. No wonder everyone is moving to Rexford.
Corporate welfare is wrong be it Metrograft or Global Foundries. The difference is that Global Foundries is creating private sector jobs and adding to the tax rolls not taking properties off the tax rolls. Morris is trying to divert attention from his box office bombs. Saratoga is booming with private sector developed condos and new industries. Schenectady County is sinking in debt with a County Home costing $500,000 a month. They DEMS have to give Galesi $500,000 to build APARTMENTS. Which will probably be Section 8. Not one condo can be sold in tax hell Schenectady. No wonder everyone is moving to Rexford.
Add to that all the city and county employees and police that live outside the city and county and you have tens of millions of dollars also leaving the local economy every year.
Add to that all the city and county employees and police that live outside the city and county and you have tens of millions of dollars also leaving the local economy every year.
Yeah McCheesy...how's that bogus residency requirement working out??
Employees taking city vehicles home to their Saratoga County residences. Paying their property & school taxes to surrounding areas yet collecting Schenectady benefits and pensions.
That's only scratching the surface of Schenectady's HUGE financial problems....
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Morris ESTIMATED-translation total BS made up figures. Like the 2,000 jobs McCheese created while sitting on the City Council approving every tax increase. Of course there is a positive side to Proctor's look at Troy's version. But where is the taxpayer dividend? More and more sheeple are waking to the fact that this is by the elites for the elites. No 
