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CICERO
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Did the USA Invade Vietnam??? That is one of your claims that you've never retracted.  For all
I know, you still believe it... but it's not a FACT and it isn't determined by a jury.  


You'd have to ask the North Vietnamese whether they believe the US was an invading army preventing the unification of Vietnam.  I'm pretty sure they don't care about the legal jargon the US uses to differentiate between invasion vs police action.


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You'd have to ask the North Vietnamese whether they believe the US was an invading army preventing the unification of Vietnam.  In pretty sure they don't care about the legal jargon the US uses to differentiate between invasion vs police action.


So Cissy... you're FOR the reunification of Vietnam, but AGAINST the unification of the USA after our
civil war.  
He's so confused.


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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So Cissy... you're FOR the reunification of Vietnam, but AGAINST the unification of the USA after our
civil war.  
He's so confused.


I'm against the entanglement in foreign affairs.  I really don't care about the internal struggle of a people a world away. No confusion for me.  Maybe you are confused, you are the one that fought against the noble cause of centralized federal power.  You fought against the Vietnam Lincoln, your hero.  

Next straw man please...


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I'm against the entanglement in foreign affairs.  I really don't care about the internal struggle of a people a world away. No confusion for me.  ..


Cain & Cicero  " am I my brothers keeper ? "


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Cain / Cicero  " am I my brothers keeper ? "


Did you just politicize Cain's answer to God?  I'm not sure I interpret God's word about being your brothers keeper to mean old men sending young men into civil wars thousands of miles away, so they can influence and benefit by the political outcome.


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This is a conservative talking point... "Black kids kill white vet."
  Had the story been "White kids kill black vet", you likely wouldn't have read it here or anywhere else.


When teen thugs  violently kill an 88 yr old man doesn't matter what color either way and yes it would be posted here  

Its not about race Box it's about a horrible crime.



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When teen thugs  violently kill an 88 yr old man doesn't matter what color either way and yes it would be posted here  
Its not about race Box it's about a horrible crime.


It IS a horrible crime, we all agree.
Isn't this a worse crime?  Yet not a peep on this board.
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June 17, 2013
Police: Infant Died After Mother Let Boyfriend Rape Her
ST. CHARLES, MO (KTVI) – Prosecutors in St. Charles County have charged the mother of an
infant girl with abuse and second degree murder stemming from an incident last December.


Yet the Righties are obsessing about THIS murder.  Why?  A horrible crime yes, but what does this
crime have that the one above doesn't?
The answer is, of course, race.


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Yet the Righties are obsessing about THIS murder.  Why?  A horrible crime yes, but what does this
crime have that the one above doesn't?
The answer is, of course, race.


The no win argument, its only ok to post about a murder if the suspect is white or a white Hispanic.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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The no win argument, its only ok to post about a murder if the suspect is white or a white Hispanic.


Then you must obsess about it for a year.  Only to realize it wasn't a crime, then say whitey gets away with murder.  


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Then you must obsess about it for a year.  Only to realize it wasn't a crime, then say whitey gets away with murder.  


Yup and then when presented with facts of his innocence bring up the OJ case.


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The no win argument, its only ok to post about a murder if the suspect is white or a white Hispanic.


You can post about any murder of interest... that is my point.  What is the interest?
Do you know the victim?
Do you know the criminals?
Why is this worth your time to post about?

Is it funny?  Interesting?  Sad?  Horrible?  
If not race, then why this particular murder?  So far that question has not been answered.


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Then you must obsess about it for a year.  Only to realize it wasn't a crime, then say whitey gets away with murder.  


The jury pretty much said that he got away with murder.  They wanted to convict, but couldn't.  Just
like OJ.


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The jury pretty much said that he got away with murder.  They wanted to convict, but couldn't.  Just
like OJ.


Then the prosecutor shouldn't have charged him with murder.  Scott Peterson was convicted of murder on purely circumstantial evidence.  The OJ crime scene had much more evidence...Oh yeah, the evidence was collected by that white racist Mark Furmam.


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You can post about any murder of interest... that is my point.  What is the interest?
Do you know the victim?
Do you know the criminals?
Why is this worth your time to post about?

Is it funny?  Interesting?  Sad?  Horrible?  
If not race, then why this particular murder?  So far that question has not been answered.


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SPOKANE, Wash. (AP) - Bail was set at $3 million Tuesday for a 16-year-old boy who is charged with killing a World War II veteran and contends the man was beaten to death because he shorted the teen and another boy on a sale of crack cocaine.

The allegation was sharply refuted by friends of Delbert Belton, the 88-year-old veteran known as "Shorty."

"Shorty never did no drugs," said Ted Denison, a friend who added that the defendants were "smearing his name."

The drug-dealing claim is in a letter police found after they arrested Kenan Adams-Kinard early Monday morning, Spokane County Deputy Prosecutor Larry Haskell said during Tuesday's court hearing.

Haskell said the letter contends that Adams-Kinard and Demetrius L. Glenn, 16, were buying crack cocaine from Belton when the attack occurred Aug. 21. That notion was scoffed at by family members and friends of Belton, who was known as Shorty because he was little more than 5 feet tall.

Haskell did not return several telephone calls seeking additional information on the drug-dealing claim.

Both teens are charged with first-degree murder and first-degree robbery. The charges carry a potential life sentence.

Police said Belton, who was wounded in the Battle of Okinawa, was beaten in his vehicle as he waited for a friend in the parking lot of an Eagles Lodge in north Spokane. Officers found Belton with serious head injuries, and his wallet had been taken. He died in the hospital Thursday.

The teens will be tried as adults, and Spokane County District Judge Debra Hayes on Tuesday ordered Adams-Kinard moved from a juvenile jail to the Spokane County Jail.

A lower bail of $2 million had been set for Glenn on Monday, but Hayes said Adams-Kinard is more of a flight risk if he's released. The judge noted that Glenn turned himself in Thursday night, while Adams-Kinard hid out for days before he was arrested.

The Associated Press does not generally identify minors accused of a crime but is naming the teens because of the severity of the charges.

Both of the 16-year-olds have criminal records.

Court records show that in 2011, Glenn and people he was with surrounded and confronted another teenager in a park because they saw a black bandana on the ground, which they took as an act of disrespect. Glenn was convicted of assault, riot and obstruction after attacking the person with a stick or bat studded with nails. He was placed on probation and later agreed to pay restitution.

Earlier this year, Glenn had two run-ins with law enforcement. On Feb. 9, he was charged with malicious mischief after damaging a garage door, and on March 18, he was arrested and charged with driving without a license.

Adams-Kinard was also arrested earlier this year after snatching a cellphone from a girl on a city bus. The girl suffered scratches on her hand, and Adams-Kinard pleaded guilty to theft and assault.

Belton was born and raised in Spokane. He survived being shot in the leg in 1945 at Okinawa, one of the fiercest battles of the war, and went on to spend 33 years working for Kaiser Aluminum before retiring in 1982.
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