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Box A Rox
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I love this, box seen what damage a gun can do so all a sudden only he should be able to own one, hate to break it to you box but what training you got in boot camp was the bare minimum and is basically a joke compared to the courses out today. There is a reason police/military etc take private courses and that's because what you and them got was subpar. I don't even need to tell you what training and courses I've taken because in your mind you believe you gotten the best, most serious shooters would disagree.


My training is far from adequate for police use, and was never intended to be.  But unlike all the
GunHuggers who are shooting themselves of their spouses, or their kids... and all the GunHuggers
who leave their loaded weapons unsecured from children, our training kept us safe from such
incidents.  
To this day, I clear a weapon the exact same way that I did in the Military... something I seldom see
at the range or among your fellow GunHuggers.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Box is on a crusade to protect everybody from all dangers.  A world wrapped in bubble wrap...Very safe, very predictable.  Everybody will live in perfect safety, so long as you comply with box's rules.  If you are caught not complying, the government agents will raid your home, taze you and kick your teeth out, to protect you and your family from the unpredictable dangers.


Maybe this response is the only one that Cicero knows.  An rational response seems beyond him.


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As state officials across the country grapple with how to prevent mass killings like the ones
at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown and near the University of California, Santa
Barbara, some are turning to a gun seizure law pioneered in Connecticut 15 years ago.

Connecticut's law allows judges to order guns temporarily seized after police present evidence
that a person is a danger to themselves or others. A court hearing must be held within 14 days
to determine whether to return the guns or authorize the state to hold them for up to a year.

The 1999 law, the first of its kind in the country, was in response to the 1998 killings of four
managers at the Connecticut Lottery headquarters by a disgruntled employee with a history
of psychiatric problems.
Daily Gazette


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To this day, I clear a weapon the exact same way that I did in the Military... something I seldom see
at the range or among your fellow GunHuggers.


I would hate to know what range you go to, every range I know magazines must be removed and actions cleared and nobody is to touch their weapon if anyone is beyond the shooting line. Maybe you should speak up to the range master if you see unsafe practices. I seen one older guy at the range pick up his rifle when the shooters were down range and he got his a$$ chewed out because of it, his defense was he was a veteran and knew how to handle his weapon, so spare me the military training talk because idiots come from all backgrounds.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Gun Hugging Veteran shoots and seriously wounds fellow citizen.

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Veteran With Concealed Carry Permit Shoots Back At Chicago Gunman

One of the spate of shootings that took place in Chicago, Ill. over the July 4th holiday weekend involved a veteran with a concealed carry permit who was forced to a shoot a man who began firing on him and a group of friends.

The incident occurred Friday night, the Chicago Tribune reports.

The veteran and three of his friends were leaving a party on the city’s south side. When the group reached their vehicle, a container with liquor was sitting on top of it. A woman from the group asked another group gathered next door who the liquor belonged to and removed it.

The move angered 22 year-old Denzel Mickiel, who approached the veteran and his friends shouting obscenities. The man then went into his residence and returned with a gun.

As Mickiel opened fire on the group, the veteran took cover near the vehicle’s front fender, according to assistant state attorney Mary Hain, the Chicago Tribune reports.

The veteran fired two shots, hitting Mickiel both times.

Two of Mickiel’s friends also began shooting at the group, which was able to flee the scene in their vehicle.

Mickiel was transported to the hospital and is in critical condition. A woman in the veteran’s group was hit twice – once in the arm and once in the back – but was stabilized and taken to the hospital.

Mickiel is charged with attempted murder and will be held on $950,000 bond.

Had Friday’s shooting occurred a little more than a year ago, the veteran would not have been legally permitted to conceal carry his firearm.

Illinois was the last U.S. state to allow citizens to carry concealed weapons with a permit, finally passing a law on July 9, 2013. The state began issuing conceal carry permits in February


http://news.yahoo.com/veteran-concealed-carry-permit-shoots-back-chicago-gunman-031804649.html


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I would hate to know what range you go to, every range I know magazines must be removed and actions cleared and nobody is to touch their weapon if anyone is beyond the shooting line. Maybe you should speak up to the range master if you see unsafe practices. I seen one older guy at the range pick up his rifle when the shooters were down range and he got his a$$ chewed out because of it, his defense was he was a veteran and knew how to handle his weapon, so spare me the military training talk because idiots come from all backgrounds.


So you do admit that on SOME RANGES there is a safety protocol that is strictly followed,
and on others, it's much less.

  Some GunHuggers go to very professional ranges, often for competition, other ranges have
little of no safety concerns other than what each shooter uses on his own.



  


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So you do admit that on SOME RANGES there is a safety protocol that is strictly followed,
and on others, it's much less.

  Some GunHuggers go to very professional ranges, often for competition, other ranges have
little of no safety concerns other than what each shooter uses on his own.

  


Every range I been to has been very professional and it was up to the members to keep it that way, all had their own rules but they were very similar and basically common sense. As you probably know getting into a range or club you need a active member of the range to give the ok before you get a membership, and you need to go to a range meeting or 2 before you are given the ok to join.



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Every range I been to has been very professional and it was up to the members to keep it that way, all had their own rules but they were very similar and basically common sense. As you probably know getting into a range or club you need a active member of the range to give the ok before you get a membership, and you need to go to a range meeting or 2 before you are given the ok to join.



When I joined I signed up, paid my dues and began shooting the next week.  They had a bulletin board
with some rules on them, but that was the extent of any safety program.  Depending on the time of day,
I shot alone or with half a dozen others and the rules were what ever we decided they were.
As I posted above, some ranges are very professional, others have little rules and no safety program.

GunHuggers, like these ranges, are sometimes very professional and safe handeling their guns, others
have no idea how to safely use a gun.  And you know it.


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Only an idiot would continue to shoot at a range that wasn't safe. The choice is an individual one and only you are responsible for your personal safety.
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Only an idiot would continue to shoot at a range that wasn't safe. The choice is an individual one and only you are responsible for your personal safety.


Yup!  And there are lots of your "idiots" still shooting there!  Idiots with guns!


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When I joined I signed up, paid my dues and began shooting the next week.  They had a bulletin board
with some rules on them, but that was the extent of any safety program.  Depending on the time of day,
I shot alone or with half a dozen others and the rules were what ever we decided they were.
As I posted above, some ranges are very professional, others have little rules and no safety program.
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Just wondering if you would share what club you were a member of? I say this because not one that I know of will allow you to join without the ok of a active member. Not one that I know of will allow people to act like idiots and get away with it, and if there wasn't a range master there it was your duty to speak up and make sure everyone was obeying the rules of the range, especially if safety was a concern. So either you didn't see enough concern for safety to speak up or you played a part in it, either way it seems you didn't take your responsibility as a member seriously.


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Just wondering if you would share what club you were a member of? I say this because not one that I know of will allow you to join without the ok of a active member. Not one that I know of will allow people to act like idiots and get away with it, and if there wasn't a range master there it was your duty to speak up and make sure everyone was obeying the rules of the range, especially if safety was a concern. So either you didn't see enough concern for safety to speak up or you played a part in it, either way it seems you didn't take your responsibility as a member seriously.


When I was a member I was only interested in a place to shoot and sight in my rifles.  I was not
at all interested in joining a GunHugger hate fest, but I was exposed to their rhetoeric occasionlly
at the range.
Ni**er was commonplace.  Hate of govt at every level was the norm... and this was long before the
TeaBaggers made hate and bigotry popular.

If those GunHuggers wanted to shoot each other up at the range, I wasn't about to try to stop them.
I often worked off shifts then and (often) had the mornings to myself.  Occasionally there would be
a few other shooters there in the morning, some reasonable people, others classic Dumb@@ss
GunHuggers.  
I probably attended 3 or 4 meetings over the years, and every one was the same.  
Macho dip$hits attempting to impress the rest of the group with their 'hate speech".  
Meetings often ending in a drunken good ole boy hate fest.  It was entertaining, to watch, but
the thought of these @ssholes armed and full of hate shopping in a mall with my family around
was not something I'd tollerate.  The thought of my wife and kids or my grandkids around these
armed cowards is anything but reassuring.
If you live among GunHuggers Henry, you may see their behavior as "normal"... Just as "normal"
as your bunker full of assault weapons, ammo and RPG's.  Most of America sees this behavior as
dangerous to society in general and a threat to their family in particular.

The 'open carry' GunHuggers pushing their assault weapons in your face as you eat your breakfast,
or as your son or daughter pick out a new pair of soccer cleats may be "reassuring" to the paranoid.
To the vast majority of America, a GunHugger pushing his assault weapon in their face is
an unwarrented and unnecessary threat to themselves and their family.  

Outside of your little band of Militia "play patriots", this behavior is bizzare!



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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Wow if the world is so full of nut job gun huggers I'm going to go out and buy a new 12ga in 3" mag with an 18.5" barrel for protection. You convinced me Box it's a very dangerous world.
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Wow if the world is so full of nut job gun huggers I'm going to go out and buy a new 12ga in 3" mag with an 18.5" barrel for protection. You convinced me Box it's a very dangerous world.


Yup! The GunHugger Paranoia is spreading as planned.  Now Senders is joining the GunHugger
Paranoia Club!  Be afraid... be very afraid (and you'll fit in well)


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