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ABC News reports that Flanagan left a suicide note indicating he was motivated by a “Race War.”

“As for Dylann Roof? You (deleted)! You want a race war (deleted)? BRING IT THEN YOU WHITE …(deleted)!!!” He said Jehovah spoke to him, telling him to act.”

Later in the manifesto, the writer quotes the Virginia Tech mass killer, Seung Hui Cho, and calls him “his boy,” and expresses admiration for the Columbine High School killers. “Also, I was influenced by Seung–Hui Cho. That’s my boy right there. He got NEARLY double the amount that Eric Harris and Dylann Klebold got…just sayin’.

In an often rambling letter to the authorities, and family and friends, he writes of a long list of grievances. In one part of the document, Williams calls it a “Suicide Note for Friends and Family”.

–He says has suffered racial discrimination, sexual harassment and bullying at work.

–He says he has been attacked by black men and white females.

–He talks about how he was attacked for being a gay, black man



political correctness gone awry.........guess he just figured out the leaders only speak words but life still happens and sh!t still happens
to you.....there are already laws for murderers because that's concrete evidence...UNLIKE stupid bullying laws......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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"Followed the rules the gun control crowd wants"???
The vast majority of NRA members approve of background checks.

So for you... background checks are the beginning and end of any gun control measures?
Kinda limits your ability to see the bigger picture.



Nice try at swerving...

what you don't want to admit is the background check, which you mention over and over again, was followed and did not prevent this. An assault weapons ban wouldn't have either.

I don't have skin in the game, I am neither a gun owner or a gun ownership opponent.
I believe  you can't legislate things like this from happening.. We've tried it with drugs and alcohol and it doesn't work

Tell me what is next on the list to try to stop this?

After you ban assault weapons , you know the ones that are scary looking but not a major contributor to gun violence, and you require background checks and registration at purchase, it seems to me the next step would be criminalization and confiscation of guns.

So, why wait for that next steps to be required? Be a good example and turn in your guns...

But we all know you won't , because you only believe in lip service to causes....from your hypocrisy on climate change to guns, the best thing I can say is you're consistent.


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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What gun law would have prevented this?


Guns For The Mentally Ill?
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The gunman who killed two journalists on-air in Virginia before killing himself was reportedly
ordered to seek mental health assistance or face termination from his past employer.


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In one memo, Mr Dennis warned Flanagan, known professionally as Bryce Williams, that
in one month he had "behaved in a manner that has resulted in one or more of your co-workers
feeling threatened or uncomfortable", according to the paper.


How about laws that deal with the mentally ill and guns???
For example:
NY SAFE Act requires the creation of a statewide license and record database,
through which records will be checked in order to determine whether or not a particular
applicant or licensee is or remains qualified to possess a firearm or to register an Assault
Weapon.
Disqualifiers will include traditional criteria, such as being convicted of a crime or serious
offense, and new criteria established by the Act, such as expanding the situations where
a court must suspend or revoke a subject’s license pursuant to an Order of Protection
or where the person has been the subject of a mental health professional’s determination
that he or she is likely to engage in dangerous behavior.




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Guns For The Mentally Ill?

How about laws that deal with the mentally ill and guns???



So somebody's employer can require a mental evaluation, and if they refuse they lose their job, which in turn the mental evaluation would be registered with the government and can be used to restrict your second amendment rights?  Maybe employers should report to the government the people that refuse mental evaluations.

And you say you're not fascist....you sure are showing your fascist stripes.




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Quoted from Box A Rox

Guns For The Mentally Ill?




How about laws that deal with the mentally ill and guns???
For example:
NY SAFE Act requires the creation of a statewide license and record database,
through which records will be checked in order to determine whether or not a particular
applicant or licensee is or remains qualified to possess a firearm or to register an Assault
Weapon.
Disqualifiers will include traditional criteria, such as being convicted of a crime or serious
offense, and new criteria established by the Act, such as expanding the situations where
a court must suspend or revoke a subject’s license pursuant to an Order of Protection
or where the person has been the subject of a mental health professional’s determination
that he or she is likely to engage in dangerous behavior.




He was under no obligation to undergo any type of mental evaluation. He had no criminal record and passed the required background check to legally own a pistol.

Even under the draconian NYSafe Act, he would have passed. He also would have been easily able to obtain said weapon since his 'reason' was he was a public figure.

So I'll ask again....What law would have prevented this.

Funny. A white shoots a black...Blame racism.
Black shoots a white....Blame the gun.






"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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Funny. A white shoots a black...Blame racism.
Black shoots a white....Blame the gun.




YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE???

Black shoots anyone because of race... it's racism.
White shoots anyone because of race... it's racism.

It really isn't that difficult.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE???

Black shoots anyone because of race... it's racism.
White shoots anyone because of race... it's racism.

It really isn't that difficult.


Nobody in the MSM is blaming racism even though this guy had a 20+ page manifesto saying that he was a heterophobe racist.

I haven't seen you blame racism once, just the gun.

Check your privilege, Shitlord. You started this.

So let's try this for the 3rd time...What law would have prevented this?









"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE???

Black shoots anyone because of race... it's racism.
White shoots anyone because of race... it's racism.

It really isn't that difficult.


So you admit it's not the gun's fault.

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Check your privilege, Shitlord. You started this.


Remember the kid in 3rd grade who couldn't talk without swearing.  No matter what the subject
he had to throw in a $hit, or an @sshole, etc?

I think he never progressed, and is now posting on the Rotterdam board!
    


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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So let's try this for the 3rd time...What law would have prevented this?


Lets try this again for the learning disabled:

Quoted from Box A Rox


For example:
NY SAFE Act requires the creation of a statewide license and record database,
through which records will be checked in order to determine whether or not a particular
applicant or licensee is or remains qualified to possess a firearm or to register an Assault
Weapon
.
Disqualifiers will include traditional criteria, such as being convicted of a crime or serious
offense, and new criteria established by the Act, such as expanding the situations where
a court must suspend or revoke a subject’s license pursuant to an Order of Protection
or where the person has been the subject of a mental health professional’s determination
that he or she is likely to engage in dangerous behavior.

A similar law where anyone seeing a mental health professional could be flagged so that in order
to GET OR KEEPa gun would be subject to scrutiny to determine if they are a danger
to society or themselves.

  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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~~~ When I was a kid seat belts were not yet in use except for race cars.
That was acceptable at the time.  When seat belts were required... I remember the outcry from those
who resisted the law.  No govt regulation was going to keep them from going through a windshield in
a crash.

~~~ I remember when it was commonplace for a toddler to be standing in the front seat between his mom
and dad.  No seat belts, no child seats, no law to keep kids safe.

~~~ I remember when the 5 mph bumper law was enacted.  Bumpers were required to sustain a 5 mph
crash with no damage to the rest of the car.  IMPOSSIBLE!  Govt Interference!  Big Brother!!!

~~~ I remember when after a alcohol related crash, the drunk driver in court would explain to the judge
that he was drunk at the time of the crash, and didn't mean to cause deaths in the accident.  The
judge would scold the driver, maybe take away his license for a month or two, and possibly a fine.
The biggest negative result was that the cost of his auto insurance would likely increase.

~~~ When I was a kid, very few motorcyclists wore helmets.  A few, but only a few.  The LIVE FREE
OR DIE, was quite literal in those days.  They had RIGHTS to splatter themselves on the highway, and
Govt Regulation was going to keep them from being a splat on the highway!

~~~ I remember when smoking was a RIGHT in this country.  More than half of the adults smoked and
the number was growing year by year.  People used to laugh when lighting up and call cigarettes
"Cancer Sticks" as they puffed away in the family car full of mom, and kids.  

All these things are different today.  LAWS SAVED LIVES.  
At the time these laws were enacted, there were those who scoffed at the law and complained of
big govt interference, and refused to comply, saying IT IS OUR RIGHT TO SMOKE, OR IT IS OUR RIGHT
TO DRIVE WITHOUT A SEAT BELT, OR TO LET OUR KIDS STAND IN THE CAR, OR IT IS OUR RIGHT
TO GO WITH OUT A HELMET.

Today those laws are normal to our everyday lives.  In the future "GOOD GUN LAWS" will be looked at
in the same way.  

Today the same people are declaring... IT IS OUR RIGHT TO OWN A GUN AND OUR RIGHT TO HAVE
MONTHLY MASS SHOOTINGS, AND OUR RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS ANYWHERE WE WANT FOR ANY REASON
WE WANT WITH ANY GUN WE WANT.

In each of these examples, the 'Neanderthals' among us slowed the enactment of "GOOD LAWS" that served
the public.  Good Gun Laws are no different.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Lets try this again for the learning disabled:


A similar law where anyone seeing a mental health professional could be flagged so that in order
to GET OR KEEPa gun would be subject to scrutiny to determine if they are a danger
to society or themselves.

  

But who makes them go in the first place? should there be follow up? how often? maybe you need to go every year?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Lets try this again for the learning disabled:


A similar law where anyone seeing a mental health professional could be flagged so that in order
to GET OR KEEPa gun would be subject to scrutiny to determine if they are a danger
to society or themselves.

  


just because a person isn't diagnosed with a mental 'hygiene' problem before gun purchase doesn't prevent that person from
going crazy later.....

so again I ask,,,,,should a mental health exam be required before buying a gun and incrementally there after?
how about for a drivers license and car ownership? how about before getting a marriage license? or before getting a bow hunting
license? or before having kids? or before having sex which potentially can make little humans?

we could go on and on and on.....

movie theaters are checking bags....really? I don't even think it's legal for them to go through your personal items that you
own, without a police officer or a lawyer present....WTF is wrong with us.....

this is NOT about guns Box.....if you think it is then you are not a wise old white guy....just some old leftover hippie trying to
make everyone the same crunchy granola that you are.....

Timothy Leary hit you hard....we are now reaping those so called 'benefits' of the 60's....you didn't like your old parents
'influence' and now this generation doesn't like your 'influence'......your generation made it like this, and it's no different
than the institution of your parents only you've changed the labels believing you were different than them....



...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Number Of Gun Deaths Have Surpassed All Wars America Has Fought In


■ More Americans have died from guns in the United States since 1968 than on battlefields
of all the wars in American history.

NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08.....id=fb-share&_r=3


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