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The Death of Daniel Somers

Monday June 24, 2013
I am reading the heartbreaking suicide note of Daniel Somers, a US combat veteran who spent several years fighting in Iraq. Mr. Somers was only 30 years old when he took his own life, after being tormented by the horrific memories of what he experienced in Iraq.  He wrote:
“The simple truth is this: During my first deployment, I was made to participate in things, the enormity of which is hard to describe. War crimes, crimes against humanity. Though I did not participate willingly, and made what I thought was my best effort to stop these events, there are some things that a person simply can not come back from.”

Many who shout the loudest that we must “support the troops” urge sending them off to unwinnable and undeclared wars in which there is no legitimate US interest. The US military has been abused by those who see military force as a first resort rather than the last resort and only in self-defense. This abuse has resulted in a generation of American veterans facing a life sentence in the prison of tortured and deeply damaged minds as well as broken bodies.

The numbers sadly tell the story: more military suicides than combat deaths in 2012, some 22 military veterans take their lives every day, nearly 30 percent of veterans treated by the VA have PTSD.

We should be saddened but not shocked when we see the broken men and women return from battles overseas. We should be angry with those who send them to suffer and die in unnecessary wars. We should be angry with those who send them to kill so many people overseas for no purpose whatsoever. We should be afraid of the consequences of such a foolish and dangerous foreign policy. We should demand an end to the abuse of military members and a return to a foreign policy that promotes peace and prosperity instead of war and poverty.





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The Death of Daniel Somers

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Ron Paul can take some of the blame for Somers death.  As a US Congressman who voted for
authorizing Bush's actions after the WTC attacks.

I'm sure others will also grab political gain from his suicide as well.


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Ron Paul can take some of the blame for Somers death.  As a US Congressman who voted for
authorizing Bush's actions after the WTC attacks.

I'm sure others will also grab political gain from his suicide as well.


2 fails in a row, 1st Somers was a IRAQI war vet, Paul was against the Iraq war. 2nd Paul is retired, he has nothing to gain politically from bringing this up. Truth is treason in the empire of lies.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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"...we must “support the troops”"
Supporting the troops does not mean that we support the conflicts/wars.
I don't agree with some of our actions, but I wil 100% support our troops that are there...
there is a difference, but too many do not see that and never will!
IMHO


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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2 fails in a row, 1st Somers was a IRAQI war vet, Paul was against the Iraq war. 2nd Paul is retired, he has nothing to gain politically from bringing this up. Truth is treason in the empire of lies.


Henry is so enamoured with Ron Paul that the TRUTH seems to slip right through his brain unnoticed.

The "TRUTH" that Henry seems to forget:

H.J.Res. 64 (107th): Authorization for Use of Military Force

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9/14/2001. Authorizes the President to use all necessary and appropriate force
against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed,
or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such
organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against
the United States by such nations, organizations, or persons.
.


Nowhere does this bill limit Bush's war capability to just Afghanistan.  Ron Paul vote:
"Authorizes the President to use all necessary and appropriate force" against Al Qaeda in ANY
country...
I'm sure Henry remembers G Worst Bush's "IRAQ-AL QAEDA CONNECTION"...
Here is GWB making that claim in the Washington Post:
Quoted Text
President Bush yesterday defended his assertions that there was a relationship between Saddam Hussein's Iraq and Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda,


Ron Paul, and most of the US congress voted for this resolution authorizing military action against
Al Qaeda...
Now that Paul is retired (and acting as Mini Me's campaign advisor)  he's attempting to distance himself
from his own vote, and apparently some on the board are falling for it.



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Ron Paul, and most of the US congress voted for this resolution authorizing military action against
Al Qaeda...
Now that Paul is retired (and acting as Mini Me's campaign advisor)  he's attempting to distance himself
from his own vote, and apparently some on the board are falling for it.



Nowhere in the authorization to use force against those responsible for 9-11 was there any mention of installing a puppet government, building schools and infrastructure and defending human rights of the Afghan people.  Paul supported going after the terrorist, not nation building, and reshaping the Middle East.

He's not distancing himself, the scope of the Afghanistan war was beyond the congressional authorization.


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Nowhere in the authorization to use force against those responsible for 9-11 was there any mention of installing a puppet government, building schools and infrastructure and defending human rights of the Afghan people.  Paul supported going after the terrorist, not nation building, and reshaping the Middle East.

He's not distancing himself, the scope of the Afghanistan war was beyond the congressional authorization.


Um... Yea... and those who voted for the Gulf Of Tonkin Amendment are off the hook too... because
like your God, Ron Paul... they changed their mind on the mission AFTER they voted for it.
Gulf of Tonkin:
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That the Congress approves and supports the determination of the President, as Commander in Chief, to take all necessary measures to repel any armed attack against the forces of the United States and to prevent further aggression.
(&)
to take all necessary steps, including the use of armed force, to assist any member or protocol state of the Southeast Asia Collective Defense Treaty requesting assistance in defense of its freedom.

Ron Paul's Vote:
Quoted Text
Authorizes the President to use all necessary and appropriate force
against those nations,
organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed,
or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such
organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against
the United States by such nations, organizations, or persons.


Neither resolution authorized invading Iraq, Cambodia, Pakistan, Laos, Afghanistan, or any other country.
The vote was to authorize the President to take appropriate actions... and they did.

Ron Paul can make these prissy regretful statements, but that doesn't change the FACTS!


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"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Yea I know...
First Ron Paul is FOR IT and voted YES.
Then Ron Paul is AGAINST IT and voted NO.

But the authorization to go to war:
"A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible
for the recent attacks launched against the United States."

Ron Paul Voted YES.

I'm sure Ron Paul isn't the first US Congressman who had 'voters remorse' after a bill he voted FOR
doesn't turn out exactly as he had planned.


Ron Paul's vote was in Sept 2001
Ron Paul's reversal speech was (October 2002)


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[size=14]Yea I know...
First Ron Paul is FOR IT and voted YES.
Then Ron Paul is AGAINST IT and voted NO.

But the authorization to go to war:
"A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible
for the recent attacks launched against the United States."

Ron Paul Voted YES.

]


So Iraq attacked us, when did this take place. Another spin attempt by box but what's fckn new with this loser >


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So Iraq attacked us, when did this take place. Another spin attempt by box but what's fckn new with this loser >


Try to keep up Henry.  The Bush Oil War in Iraq had nothing to do with the WTC attacks...
but your Republican brethren lied (as usual) and said that they did when they invaded Iraq.

If you paid attention, way back in reply #4 I posted:
Nowhere does this bill limit Bush's war capability to just Afghanistan.  Ron Paul vote:
"Authorizes the President to use all necessary and appropriate force" against Al Qaeda in ANY
country...
I'm sure Henry remembers G Worst Bush's "IRAQ-AL QAEDA CONNECTION"...
Here is GWB making that claim in the Washington Post:

Quoted Text
President Bush yesterday defended his assertions that there was a relationship between
Saddam Hussein's Iraq and Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda


I'm not spinning the Ron Paul Vote authorizing Bush's Oil War in Iraq... Those are the FACTS.
No SPIN NECESSARY.


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