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~Since the last ice age, sea levels have risen 140 m (460 feet)


*tries to contain laughter*

So what your saying is that it took 10,000 years for ocean levels to rise a whole 460 feet.

That averages out to be 0.046ft. per year!!!!

OMFG!!!!....That could cause a Sharknado!!!!





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*tries to contain laughter*
So what your saying is that it took 10,000 years for ocean levels to rise a whole 460 feet.
That averages out to be 0.046ft. per year!!!!


No Bucky Boy... try to keep up.
If you look you'll see that my post was a RESPONSE to DVOR's comment:
"We would have to bring in water from another planet to do that.", which obviously isn't true.


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No Bucky Boy... try to keep up.
If you look you'll see that my post was a RESPONSE to DVOR's comment:
"We would have to bring in water from another planet to do that.", which obviously isn't true.


No.

What I saw is your quoted fact that since the last 'ice age' ocean levels have risen 460 ft. Totally believable.

The hilarity is that the last 'ice age' ended 10,000 years ago.


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We would have to bring in water from another planet to do that.


No DVOR we wouldn't.

There is enough water locked away in both polar regions that, should they melt away, would easily raise ocean levels a couple of hundred feet. Yes, this has happened before.

Boxy's problem is he is stuck listening to false prophets that speak of being able to control the climate and save us from the fate of the planet Venus.

And Sharknados





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~Since the last ice age, sea levels have risen 140 m (460 feet)

~Each Degree C of Warming May Raise Seas 2 Meters (6 1/2 feet)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-15/each-degree-celsius-of-warming-may-raise-seas-2-meters.html

~ Snow-covered ice reflects more than 80% of the sun’s heat, the darker ocean absorbs up
to 95% of solar radiation. Once sea ice begins to melt, the process becomes
self-reinforcing. More ocean surface is revealed, absorbing solar heat, raising temperatures
and making it unlikelier that ice will re-form next winter.




That was over a much longer period and don't forget the earth was covered with mile thick sheets of ice.  There is no where near enough ice cover to produce a 250  to 350 feet rise in the oceans anytime soon.


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No.

What I saw is your quoted fact that since the last 'ice age' ocean levels have risen 460 ft. Totally believable.

The hilarity is that the last 'ice age' ended 10,000 years ago.




No DVOR we wouldn't.

There is enough water locked away in both polar regions that, should they melt away, would easily raise ocean levels a couple of hundred feet.

Boxy's problem is he is stuck listening to false prophets that speak of being able to control the climate and save us from the fate of the planet Venus.



Well, I didn't take time to measure the ice sheets (LOL) but I think his idea that the Mohawk Valley will be flooded is rather absurd.

Besides,  Krakatoa or some other major volcano or volcanoes will erupt in the next 100 years -- and cool us off a bit.  And actually, I am more worried about  the volcano under Yellowstone erupting or a few of the volcanoes on our Pacific Coast erupting than I am this so-called "global warming" theory.

BTW -- if you look at the record highs and record lows for each day --- we have had much hotter days and much cooler days just in the past 125 years ... which IMHO all goes to show that what we are experiencing is CLIMATE VARIABILITY ... and NOT some huge crisis.



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That was over a much longer period and don't forget the earth was covered with mile thick sheets of ice.  There is no where near enough ice cover to produce a 250  to 350 feet rise in the oceans anytime soon.


Not to mention, over 10,000 years, as the earth goes through a warming cycle, there will be post glacial rebound, where land that was at sea level rises.


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The main ice covered landmass is Antarctica at the South Pole, with about 90 percent of the
world's ice (and 70 percent of its fresh water). Antarctica is covered with ice an average of
2,133 meters (7,000 feet) thick. If all of the Antarctic ice melted, sea levels around the world
would rise about 61 meters (200 feet).

There is a significant amount of ice covering Greenland, which would add another 7 meters
(20 feet) to the oceans if it melted.

But there might be a less dramatic reason than polar ice melting for the higher ocean level --
the higher temperature of the water. Water is most dense at 4 degrees Celsius. Above and
below this temperature, the density of water decreases (the same weight of water occupies
a bigger space). So as the overall temperature of the water increases it naturally expands a
little bit making the oceans rise.

An increase of 1 or more degrees Celsius in a period of one hundred to two hundred years
would be considered global warming. Over the course of a single century, an increase of even
0.4 degrees Celsius would be significant.


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that cut and paste tool is very nice


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that cut and paste tool is very nice


Yes Graham, it is.  I don't know these facts off hand but I do know where to find them.  If you don't
like them, then please post something to refute them.  Hopefully something that won't take you a
'a month to write'.  


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What I love about Boxy's facts is they contain a lot of words like 'may', 'could', 'might', 'chance', 'possible' etc.




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The bright side of Climate Change and Global Warming  ---  Schenectady (down by the river at the Community College)  is at 211 feet above sea level.   So if the oceans rise 230 feet, Mont Pleasant, Bellevue and Hamilton Hill are just high enough that they will become the next fashionable seaside resorts.


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The bright side of Climate Change and Global Warming  ---  Schenectady (down by the river at the Community College)  is at 211 feet above sea level.   So if the oceans rise 230 feet, Mont Pleasant, Bellevue and Hamilton Hill are just high enough that they will become the next fashionable seaside resorts.


See?  All it takes is agenda to get DVOR on the side of Climate Change.  He's such a political hack!


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What I love about Boxy's facts is they contain a lot of words like 'may', 'could', 'might', 'chance', 'possible' etc.


Yea.    Since it hasn't happened yet, and there are variables, MAY is appropriate.  

There is only one place in the world where climate change is still in debate... THE USA.  
There is no debate about it's science... only it's politics.


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See?  All it takes is agenda to get DVOR on the side of Climate Change.  He's such a political hack!


I don't believe in the climate change agenda.  I am the opposite of the political hacks that populate our local, state and federal offices --- I THINK FOR MYSELF.   And for the record, I can count on one hand the total number of local politicians (within 100 miles) that I know that I actually trust and think are doing a good job.


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Did the Arctic region break a heat record?

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According to English-language outlet The Siberian Times, temperatures of 32 degrees Celsius,
or 89.6 degrees Fahrenheit, were recorded in the Siberian city of Norilsk on July 21. The average
temperature in July in the region is 13.6 C, or 56.48 F.


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