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Madam X
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The FBI appears to have an institutional aversion to following up on any intelligence supplied to them by any outside body. They much prefer to gin up their own 'terrorists' using the local nut and dumbbell population.
This is dangerous. The FBI fumbled and dropped the ball on 9/11. People died. It was blamed on agencies "not talking to each other", but that was inaccurate. There is jealously, envy, and territoriality in play. We can't have that.
If they were so sure these two weren't a threat, then they weren't really terrorists, were they? I'd be really p!$$ed if I found out this guy was working on a death ray for the FBI and he had stated that he wanted to harm MY family.
This is a bad episode of Get Smart.
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Quoted from Box A Rox
When investigating Domestic Terrorists (or probably any terrorist) the FBI wants to catch the actual operatives
on the ground who commit the act, but more importantly they need to find out who is directing the act.

Often a sting operation like this one, will allow the operation to continue as long as they have reasonable
assurance that no one will be harmed.  Once infiltrated, the FBI knew these two's every move and phone
conversation.  



I 100% agree.

This isn't as if the FBI went out and found some skinheads and said to them, "Hey, let's go make a death ray gun".

These guys had the motive, will, financing, and some technical skill.  They were driving this, not the FBI.

The FBI wanting to get as much evidence as possible - I do not consider entrapment.

Our government is clearly RIDICULOUSLY out of control when they have the IRS illegally releasing documents on opponents of the president.  It is truly despicable.  And I think Holder is a joke - he is outright subverting the law when it conflicts with his personal radical beliefs.

However what the FBI did here, is absolutely appropriate in my opinion.

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Box is starting to sound like a government agent.


Nahhhhhhh.....just a prime example of a 'created LUNY LEFTY'!!!!!

Can't take them seriously!
Above laughable!
Beyond embarrassing!
Obviously programed!
Not credible!
Empty headed!
Empty suits!
Empty skirts!!
Just as brainwashed as the 'created rabid right'......one in the same.....GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED PUPPETS!!

.......just a different side of the same corrupt coin.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Nahhhhhhh.....just a prime example of a 'created LUNY LEFTY'!!!!!


Hey bumbler... Read this:
http://rotterdamny.info/m-1371860310/
It's about YOU!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Want to add to this that NO ONE on this board has said they supported what those two men have done, show me ONE post Box where anyone
said I support what the two men did or that they wished it was carried out.


nothing?
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Cousin is an out of state radiologist........they are all laughing their a$$es off!!!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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I 100% agree.

This isn't as if the FBI went out and found some skinheads and said to them, "Hey, let's go make a death ray gun".

These guys had the motive, will, financing, and some technical skill.  They were driving this, not the FBI.

The FBI wanting to get as much evidence as possible - I do not consider entrapment.



They had motive and there was enough suspicion to go after these guys because they already made specific threats, however they were financed by the FBI, the article states they were given money and were supplied parts for there "death ray" in a sting that took over 1 year. They first said the public was in no harm at any time but then they're saying these 2 were committed to kill people, which is it? Are we expected to believe these 2 people were tracked 24/7 for over a year, impossible. They may have had their phones tapped but there is no way they had eyes on them the whole time.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Like they had eyes on the Tsarnaev brothers? What about the wife, BTW? Why is she still out walking around? The don't want to pick on the poor widowed mother?
The FBI is so incompetent, it would be funny if it wasn't so dangerous.
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Like they had eyes on the Tsarnaev brothers? What about the wife, BTW? Why is she still out walking around? The don't want to pick on the poor widowed mother?
The FBI is so incompetent, it would be funny if it wasn't so dangerous.


What crime did the wife commit?  


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I think the point was that the bombs were constructed in the appt she shared with her husband, and she was living there at the time...  And thus had a LIKELIHOOD of being a co-conspirator.  (But no real information has come out to my knowledge that would PROVE her involvement)
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They wanted to let the death ray guy continue on to get the other conspirators, but the FBI couldn't recognize conspirators if they lived in the same house, ran around in fashions from Muslims Are Us, and worked 80 hours per week whilst supporting trips to the fireworks store for somebody not all that patriotic.
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Oh crap lol, wonder if John Stewart did a segment also, have to take a look.
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Oh crap lol, wonder if John Stewart did a segment also, have to take a look.


I think Jon is gone     He's moved on to different things.  I'll miss him.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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I think Jon is gone     He's moved on to different things.  I'll miss him.


He's coming back in September after he finishes directing a movie he's working on.


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