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sanctions....how to buy friends and control the world

so really...bankers and accountants are just like boots on the ground.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Thank You President Barack Hussein Obama!
Yet another success!



Thank the Chinese, Iran's number 1 trading partner.  The US folded to Chinese power.  I don't think the US had much of a choice in the negotiations.


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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Your original comment insinuates that you insurance increased UNDER ACA or as result of ACA,
but I struggle to understand how you can make such a statement.


When the ACA was 'signed'....ALL insurance companies had a mandated 'tax/fee' they had to start paying to start to fill the BEAST'S wallet BEFORE it actually went into effect. Hence....most, if not all premiums increased right out of the gate to start paying for obamacare.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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When the ACA was 'signed'....ALL insurance companies had a mandated 'tax/fee' they had to start paying to start to fill the BEAST'S wallet BEFORE it actually went into effect. Hence....most, if not all premiums increased right out of the gate to start paying for obamacare.


Please show us where we can find this fact.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Obama's rating is so far down...no trust.....he's likeable....that's about it...

The people have spoken...

doesn't matter REP or DEM or whatever.....this government has not shown one bit of economic growth...

in healthcare of anything else.
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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I did not know all of this:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion.....insurance-companies/
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With all the charges flying against President Obama in the on-going effort to stop ObamaCare it’s time for a reality check.

Having failed to kill the Affordable Care Act in Congress by shutting down the government the opposition is currently taking delight in charging the president with lying to the public when he said anyone who likes their current healthcare plan will be able to keep it under the new law.

It turns out that some people in the individual care market – about 5 percent of the overall insurance market -- are having their insurance policies cancelled.

It is estimated that half of those folks will get better coverage for a lower price. Some people will even get subsidies to help them pay the lower price.

But some people losing their current policies [and being offered better coverage] are going to have to pay a higher price. Taking crocodile tears to a new level, ObamaCare opponents are now rushing to their defense and calling the president a liar.

These critics include Republican politicians who did not vote for ObamaCare; these are Republican governors who refuse to set up exchanges to reach their own citizens; these are people oppose expanding Medicaid to help poor people getting better health care; these are people who have never put any proposal on the table as an alternative fix for the nation’s costly health care system that leaves tens of millions with inadequate medical coverage and tens of millions more totally uninsured.

The fact is if you are one of the estimated 2 million Americans whose health insurance plans may have been cancelled this month, you should not be blaming President Obama or the Affordable Care Act.

You should be blaming your insurance company because they have not been providing you with coverage that meets the minimum basic standards for health care.

Let me put it more bluntly: your insurance companies have been taking advantage of you and the Affordable Care Act puts in place consumer protection and tells them to stop abusing people.

The government did not “force” insurance companies to cancel their own substandard policies.The insurance companies chose to do that rather than do what is right and bring the policies up to code.

This would be like saying the government “forces” chemical companies to dispose of toxic waste safely rather than dumping it in the river.

Or the government “forces” people to drive with intact windshields and working brake lights.

How dare they “force” drivers to pay money to get those things fixed if they are broken?

One of the most popular and important provisions of the Affordable Care Act is setting basic minimum standards of medical insurance coverage. Here are some of those standards:

- Your insurance company is no longer allowed to cancel your policy if you get sick

- Your insurance company cannot deny you coverage or charge you more if you have a pre-existing health condition

- Your insurance company must allow you to keep your children on your plan until they turn 26 years old or get a job that provides health insurance.

- Your insurance company cannot impose lifetime caps on you health coverage.

- And perhaps most relevant to current discussion about insurance companies canceling substandard policies, your insurance company must cover what are called “essential health benefits.”

What are “essential health benefits?”

They are clearly defined on HealthCare.gov:

“Essential health benefits must include items and services within at least the following 10 categories: ambulatory patient services; emergency services; hospitalization; maternity and newborn care; mental health and substance use disorder services, including behavioral health treatment; prescription drugs; rehabilitative and habilitative services and devices; laboratory services; preventive and wellness services and chronic disease management; and pediatric services, including oral and vision care.”

That’s right.

If you are rushed to the hospital in an ambulance, the ACA says your insurance company has to pay for the ambulance ride.

If your son or daughter has a bout with depression or suffers from panic attacks, the ACA says your insurance company needs to pay for their medicine and treatment from a mental health professional.

People should be angry that their insurance companies were not paying for these humane, common sense benefits all along.

It baffles me that people are directing their anger at the ACA which rights these terrible wrongs.

The Hartford Courant newspaper reports that the CEO of Aetna insurance made $36 million last year plus several millions more in stock options.

They also report that the CEO of Cigna cleared a cool $12.5 Million plus stock options.

The American health insurance industry is one of the most profitable in the history of the world. Before the ACA, they made money by finding any excuse, any loophole to deny coverage to the sickest and most vulnerable people in our society.

Rather than being vindictive and canceling policies under the pretext of ObamaCare, the insurance companies should be thanking their lucky stars that they do not have to contend with a public option or a single payer system. That is what the law allows in every other modern industrialized democracy.

Juan Williams joined Fox News Channel (FNC) in 1997 as a contributor and is also a co-host of FNC's "The Five," where he is one of seven rotating Fox personalities. Additionally, he serves as FNC's political analyst, a regular panelist on "Fox News Sunday" and "Special Report with Bret Baier" and is a regular substitute host for "The O'Reilly Factor."


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the reps don't want the ACA killed.....they are PRETENDING to oppose it......it's a status quo regulation/offering/regulation....

the reps will PRETEND to oppose it then 'win' and name it something else.....

it's all about elbow rubbing of the status quo and the public's acceptance of whitewashing.....

go ahead and talk about the poor poor little working guy/gal and how the government should care and change things for the
poor poor little guy/gal....that's when the voting public all starts talking about how 'at least the dems/reps did this/that because
someone has to watch out for me'.......

hahahahahahahahahhaha


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Democracy in action:



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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The title of the YouTube clip should be "Obama tries to win heckler over on amnesty".


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Exactly, they were yelling end deportation, Obama response is I will march with you


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Exactly, they were yelling end deportation, Obama response is I will march with you


It's a shame that GWB listened to the Conservatives like "shoot em in the face" Cheney instead of
following his own agenda.  
GWB had an Immigration plan (one of his few good ideas) that could have helped America and been
an integral part of the GWB legacy.  Instead... he will be remembered for lying about WMD's.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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GWB legacy.  Instead... he will be remembered for lying about WMD's. Wait until you see Obamas' legacy when this health care law blows up and 50 to 100 million people lose their health care plans next yeObama Officials In 2010: 93 Million Americans Will Be Unable To Keep Their Health Plans Under Obamacare


On October 30, 2013, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius testified before the House Energy and Commerce Committee on the continuing problems with the Affordable Care Act's insurance exchanges. (Photo credit: Avik Roy/Forbes)

On Wednesday, Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius testified before Congress about the continuing issues with the rollout of Obamacare’s health insurance exchanges. “Hold me accountable for the debacle,” said Sebelius. “I’m responsible.” I attended the hearing, and I was struck by the scope, scale, and depth of the health law’s problems, problems that far exceed any one political appointee. But Obamacare’s disruption of the existing health insurance market—a disruption codified in law, and known to the administration—is only just beginning. And it’s far broader than recent media coverage has implied.
ar.        http://www.forbes.com/sites/th.....ans-under-obamacare/
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It's a shame that GWB listened to the Conservatives like "shoot em in the face" Cheney instead of
following his own agenda.  
GWB had an Immigration plan (one of his few good ideas) that could have helped America and been
an integral part of the GWB legacy.  Instead... he will be remembered for lying about WMD's.


Obama will be remembered for not prosecuting war crimes, as well as being a war criminal himself.  This petty bullshit like immigration, corporatization of healthcare, gay marriage, will all be blips on the radar once the decay of America brings the whole sh*t house down.  The passive acceptance of state sponsored mass homicide and endless burden if debt on the public will end.  And there is no amount of corporate/state propaganda that will prevent it.


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